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     1. 12:25 AM - Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
     2. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: IFR panels (bburril)
     3. 08:00 AM - Randy Pinkston (Lenleg@aol.com)
     4. 08:09 AM - Re: Randy Pinkston (Randy Utsey)
     5. 08:59 AM - Re: Randy Pinkston ()
     6. 07:27 PM - Re: Randy Pinkston ()
     7. 09:37 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (Bill Repucci)
 
 
 
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      MessageBill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it 
      does everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it 
      ether.
      
       Ben  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bill Repucci 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM
        Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
        Len,
      
        I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with 
      the pricing.  I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get 
      some info that way but no joy.  :(
      
        From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a 
      "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, 
      they will cut that price.  About the lowest I have heard is around 
      $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS.
      
        Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what 
      I can work up.
      
        If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if 
      I can work a group buy.  Who knows, we might get lucky.
      
        To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about 
      buying a 496.  When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard 
      orders, not "maybe orders".  I will NOT take any action until after the 
      first of the year.
      
        As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you 
      gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with 
      payment.  However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal 
      with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can 
      take it from there.
      
        Bill
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      Lenleg@aol.com
        Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
        Bill:
      
        Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down 
      in January ????  
      
        Fingers crossed ...
      
        Len
      
      
        In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
      bill@repucci.com writes:
      <bill@repucci.com>
      
          David,
      
          I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even 
      have
          an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have
          equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find 
      that
          they rarely use it.  To the point where many of them have told me 
      that
          next time they will leave it VFR only.
      
          Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth.
      
          Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in 
      the
          future, if I ever get the IFR bug.
      
          As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo
          (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it
          will be slanted towards me.  Great device and it has let me build up 
      my
          panel without actually owning a GPS.  In January I hope the price 
      comes
          down a notch so I can purchase a 496.  Pictures are at the bottom of
          this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html
      
          Bill
      
          -----Original Message-----
          From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
          [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      David
          Lee
          Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM
          To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
          Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
          --> <odlee@bellsouth.net>
      
          Bill & Radomir,
      
          I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.!  I am 
      planning
          the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but 
      having
          trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of 
      IFR
          in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used 
      a
          Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, 
      RMI,
          NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest
          ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. 
      
          I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will
          actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my 
      earlier
          aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers
          equip their planes?
      
          Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon.
      
          David
      
      
          Read this topic online here:
      
          http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653
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      Randy:
      
      Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise.
      
      Len
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Randy Pinkston | 
      
      Hi Len, Steve got it for me last week at EQY / 2 T-shirts and a hat & a 
      golf shirt
      Thanks for ordering it,
      
      Randy Utsey
      D.J. Distributing Co.
      1429 Bryant St.
      Charlotte, NC  28208
      800-585-4126
      
      djdist@bellsouth.net
      www.djdist.com
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lenleg@aol.com 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM
        Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston
      
      
        Randy:
      
        Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise.
      
        Len
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Randy Pinkston | 
      
      pinkstons lawnmower & equip. inc.  626 hwy 24-27 west midland nc  28107  
      or i will meet you somewhere  randy pinkston   704-888-2888  rv7a
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lenleg@aol.com 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM
        Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston
      
      
        Randy:
      
        Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise.
      
        Len
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Randy Pinkston | 
      
      i will be out flying sat and sun  call 704-438-1222 if you are out and 
      maybe i  can meet you   rp
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lenleg@aol.com 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM
        Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston
      
      
        Randy:
      
        Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise.
      
        Len
      
      
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      Ben,
      
      I hope to get a deal on the 496 and bring it down close to the list
      price of the 396 and I look at buying these things like buying a new PC.
      I purchase the biggest unit I can for the money and hope it isn't
      outdated until it dies.
      
      You are right, for a VFR pilot like myself, I'm not sure the 496 offers
      that much over the 396.
      
      Bill
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      bburril
      Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:39 AM
      Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
      Bill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it does
      everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it ether.
      
       Ben  
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bill Repucci <mailto:bill@repucci.com>  
      Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM
      Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      Len,
      
      I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with
      the pricing.  I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get
      some info that way but no joy.  :(
      
      >From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a
      "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers,
      they will cut that price.  About the lowest I have heard is around
      $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS.
      
      Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I
      can work up.
      
      If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I
      can work a group buy.  Who knows, we might get lucky.
      
      To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about
      buying a 496.  When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard
      orders, not "maybe orders".  I will NOT take any action until after the
      first of the year.
      
      As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you
      gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with
      payment.  However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal
      with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can
      take it from there.
      
      Bill
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Lenleg@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM
      Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
      Bill:
      
      Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in
      January ????  
      
      Fingers crossed ...
      
      Len
      
      
      In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
      bill@repucci.com writes:
      
      <bill@repucci.com>
      
      David,
      
      I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have
      an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have
      equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that
      they rarely use it.  To the point where many of them have told me that
      next time they will leave it VFR only.
      
      Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth.
      
      Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the
      future, if I ever get the IFR bug.
      
      As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo
      (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it
      will be slanted towards me.  Great device and it has let me build up my
      panel without actually owning a GPS.  In January I hope the price comes
      down a notch so I can purchase a 496.  Pictures are at the bottom of
      this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html
      
      Bill
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
      Lee
      Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM
      Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels
      
      
      --> <odlee@bellsouth.net>
      
      Bill & Radomir,
      
      I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.!  I am planning
      the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having
      trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR
      in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a
      Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI,
      NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest
      ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. 
      
      I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will
      actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier
      aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers
      equip their planes?
      
      Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon.
      
      David
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653
      sp;          (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ic you for nbsp;
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