---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/08/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:25 AM - Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle) 2. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: IFR panels (bburril) 3. 08:00 AM - Randy Pinkston (Lenleg@aol.com) 4. 08:09 AM - Re: Randy Pinkston (Randy Utsey) 5. 08:59 AM - Re: Randy Pinkston () 6. 07:27 PM - Re: Randy Pinkston () 7. 09:37 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (Bill Repucci) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:00 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this weekend. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:53 AM PST US From: "bburril" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels MessageBill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it does everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it ether. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Repucci To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Len, I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with the pricing. I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get some info that way but no joy. :( From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, they will cut that price. About the lowest I have heard is around $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS. Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I can work up. If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I can work a group buy. Who knows, we might get lucky. To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about buying a 496. When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard orders, not "maybe orders". I will NOT take any action until after the first of the year. As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with payment. However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can take it from there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill@repucci.com writes: David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 sp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ic you for nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Use lities Day --> ==== href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:57 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:18 AM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Hi Len, Steve got it for me last week at EQY / 2 T-shirts and a hat & a golf shirt Thanks for ordering it, Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:40 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston pinkstons lawnmower & equip. inc. 626 hwy 24-27 west midland nc 28107 or i will meet you somewhere randy pinkston 704-888-2888 rv7a ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:45 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston i will be out flying sat and sun call 704-438-1222 if you are out and maybe i can meet you rp ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:08 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Ben, I hope to get a deal on the 496 and bring it down close to the list price of the 396 and I look at buying these things like buying a new PC. I purchase the biggest unit I can for the money and hope it isn't outdated until it dies. You are right, for a VFR pilot like myself, I'm not sure the 496 offers that much over the 396. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bburril Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it does everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it ether. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Repucci Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Len, I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with the pricing. I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get some info that way but no joy. :( >From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, they will cut that price. About the lowest I have heard is around $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS. Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I can work up. If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I can work a group buy. Who knows, we might get lucky. To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about buying a 496. When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard orders, not "maybe orders". I will NOT take any action until after the first of the year. As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with payment. However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can take it from there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill@repucci.com writes: David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. 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