---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/18/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:40 AM - Re: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs -12/14/06 (Bill Settle) 2. 05:19 AM - Rad & Scott - Thanks !! (Lenleg@aol.com) 3. 05:37 AM - Re: Garmin 496 vs 396... (Wayne Williams) 4. 07:33 AM - Re: Garmin 496 vs 396... (Robbie Walker) 5. 02:14 PM - Re: Rad & Scott - Thanks !! (Larry Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:00 AM PST US From: Bill Settle Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs -12/14/06 Thanks, I'll check it out. Bill Settle. > > From: "tadsargent" > Date: 2006/12/16 Sat PM 06:40:44 EST > To: > Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs -12/14/06 > > > My chime is to get the Lowrance 2000c it has all these features but weather. > Might I mention the largest screen and it below $900.00 unless you have > settled on the Garmin. > Tad Sargent > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Settle" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:25 AM > Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 > Msgs -12/14/06 > > > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > If I could chime in here for a second... I'm a good way from being > > ready to buy my GPS, but I was half way planning on the 396 until the 496 > > came out. The 496 has three features the 396 doesn't. > > > > For the traveler... > > > > (1) It has AOPA's 5300 entry airport directory installed which includes > > names and phone numbers of FBO's, restaurants, and hotels. > > (2) It has what Garmin calls the "Safe Taxi" feature where you are able > > to see your postion on an airport diagram to help prevent runway > > incursions and, > > (3) It has the "Smart Airspace" feature that alerts you to potential > > airspace issues based on your altitude. > > > > > > > >> From: "bburril" > >> Date: 2006/12/15 Fri PM 12:29:45 EST > >> To: > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 > >> Msgs -12/14/06 > >> > >> John, the 396 does everthing that a 496 does just not as fast.The weather > >> is the same,because the gps does not have anything to do with the wx. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Dale Ensing > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:31 AM > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 > >> Msgs -12/14/06 > >> > >> > >> John, > >> Wx is also possible with the Garmin 396. > >> Dale Ensing > >> RV6A N118DE > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: DrJSherm@aol.com > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:26 AM > >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 > >> Msgs -12/14/06 > >> > >> > >> With trembling fingers, I key in a question to this most interesting > >> SERV group...I am a "lurker"...often confused by the mysterious jargon, > >> abbreviations, destinations and issues with A/C systems and > >> construction..maybe, someday I will be "clear on top" and understand! (I > >> remain a dedicated RV "wannabe" hopefully soon to regain my > >> certifications) > >> I did see that reference to the Garmin 496..whoever is "leading" > >> this formation, please consider keeping me in the loop..the benefit of > >> such a unit, and Wx info appears to be worth considering for an old fart > >> getting back into the air...$ savings might make the final decision! > >> John Sherm, Wilmington, NC > >> > >> > >> > >> www.aeroelectric.com > >> www.buildersbooks.com > >> www.kitlog.com > >> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:36 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Rad & Scott - Thanks !! Thank you guys for taking video of our practice ... really appreciate it .. even if you did shoot me down !!! Len ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:44 AM PST US From: "Wayne Williams" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 496 vs 396... Robbie: Personally I feel strongly about having redundancy for all critical systems in IFR. I use 2 separate EFIS units in my -8A just for this reason. The xx6 Garmins have a nice panel page but (in my opinion) not really capable of serving as a panel (even partial) in IMC. My two cents. Wayne _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robbie Walker Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 496 vs 396... On this note, not having used either (I have a 196) what impact do you think the higher refresh, etc. of the 496 vs the 396 would have on it's utility as an emergency IFR backup. My own experience with the instruments simulation screen on the 196 leads me to think that a faster response would greatly improve the device's utility for such an emergency. Of course my extremely limited actual instrument time (not being IFR qualified that's a good thing) makes me want to avoid jumping to my own conclusions. Any thoughts on that? I realize it's a little early to be planning my panel! On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:29 PM, bburril wrote: John, the 396 does everthing that a 496 does just not as fast.The weather is the same,because the gps does not have anything to do with the wx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs -12/14/06 John, Wx is also possible with the Garmin 396. Dale Ensing RV6A N118DE ----- Original Message ----- From: DrJSherm@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs -12/14/06 With trembling fingers, I key in a question to this most interesting SERV group...I am a "lurker"...often confused by the mysterious jargon, abbreviations, destinations and issues with A/C systems and construction..maybe, someday I will be "clear on top" and understand! (I remain a dedicated RV "wannabe" hopefully soon to regain my certifications) I did see that reference to the Garmin 496..whoever is "leading" this formation, please consider keeping me in the loop..the benefit of such a unit, and Wx info appears to be worth considering for an old fart getting back into the air...$ savings might make the final decision! John Sherm, Wilmington, NC www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comhref="http://www.buil dersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog. comhref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http://www .matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVS outhEast-List * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com Thank you for your generous class="Apple-converted-space"> - The RVSouthEast-List Email --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:16 AM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 496 vs 396... Thanks for the advice. I tend to agree, to the extent that I don't have any experience and therefor have an uninformed opinion. I was thinking of the panel as more of a "worst case scenario" total systems failure option. Robbie On Dec 18, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Wayne Williams wrote: > Robbie: > > Personally I feel strongly about having redundancy for all critical > systems in IFR. I use 2 separate EFIS units in my -8A just for this > reason. The xx6 Garmins have a nice panel page but (in my opinion) > not really capable of serving as a panel (even partial) in IMC. > > My two cents. > > > Wayne > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- > rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robbie Walker > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:57 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 496 vs 396... > > > On this note, not having used either (I have a 196) what impact do > you think the higher refresh, etc. of the 496 vs the 396 would have > on it's utility as an emergency IFR backup. > > > My own experience with the instruments simulation screen on the 196 > leads me to think that a faster response would greatly improve the > device's utility for such an emergency. > > > Of course my extremely limited actual instrument time (not being > IFR qualified that's a good thing) makes me want to avoid jumping > to my own conclusions. > > > Any thoughts on that? I realize it's a little early to be planning > my panel! > > > On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:29 PM, bburril wrote: > > > John, the 396 does everthing that a 496 does just not as fast.The > weather is the same,because the gps does not have anything to do > with the wx. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dale Ensing > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:31 AM > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs > -12/14/06 > > > John, > > Wx is also possible with the Garmin 396. > > Dale Ensing > > RV6A N118DE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: DrJSherm@aol.com > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:26 AM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs > -12/14/06 > > > With trembling fingers, I key in a question to this most > interesting SERV group...I am a "lurker"...often confused by the > mysterious jargon, abbreviations, destinations and issues with A/C > systems and construction..maybe, someday I will be "clear on top" > and understand! (I remain a dedicated RV "wannabe" hopefully soon > to regain my certifications) > > I did see that reference to the Garmin 496..whoever is "leading" > this formation, please consider keeping me in the loop..the benefit > of such a unit, and Wx info appears to be worth considering for an > old fart getting back into the air...$ savings might make the final > decision! > > John Sherm, Wilmington, NC > > www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.kitlog.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/contribution > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comhref="http:// > www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http:// > www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.comhref="http:// > www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http:// > www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ > chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com * > HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com Thank you for your generous > class="Apple-converted-space"> - > The RVSouthEast-List Email --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? > RVSouthEast-List > > www.aeroelectric.com > www.buildersbooks.com > www.kitlog.com > www.homebuilthelp.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > ============================================================ _- > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:28 PM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Rad & Scott - Thanks !! From: "Larry Bowen" Where are the videos? -------- Larry Bowen RV-8, 160+ Hrs. 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