---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/30/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:27 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (tadsargent) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (Lenleg@aol.com) 3. 05:07 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (Bill Boyd) 4. 05:49 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (Robbie Walker) 5. 06:39 AM - Fw: Pilot Humor (Dale Ensing) 6. 08:24 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (Larry Bowen) 7. 08:29 AM - Re: weekend lunch-NMB (MauleDriver) 8. 02:43 PM - Re: Fw: Pilot Humor (Steve Glasgow) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:59 AM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB It has been awile since I was there (too many beach trips). Thanks for the info. Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:03 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB > > > So you normally land at CRE without talking to the tower? No wonder they > are in a bad mood! :) > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > tadsargent wrote: >> >> >> What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to talk to >> him >> to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess conversation or >> am >> I >> off base. >> Tad >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Randy Pinkston" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:14 PM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB >> >> >>> >>> >>> there is a clip board at ramp 66 at the counter asking you to fill it >>> out >>> on >>> how the tower treated you.I ask about it and the woman said that they >>> have >>> had many people coming in unhappy in the way they where handled,or in >>> the >>> way he talked to other people. It's about time! maybe it will get >>> better >>> now randy p >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Larry Bowen" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. It was a pretty good birthday. We did the CRE lunch trip >>>> today. >>>> We were alone, but passed Randy P. and his wife as we walked to >>>> Rockefeller. The trip down was smooth and uneventful. The grinch in >>>> the >>>> tower seems to have been replaced by someone with a better disposition, >>>> but otherwise less qualified. Beware. >>>> >>>> After we returned and refueled, I gave one of the locals a ride. I >>>> think >>>> he'll be talking about it for a while....standard RV grin. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Larry Bowen >>>> Larry@BowenAero.com >>>> http://BowenAero.com >>>> >>>> Bill Boyd wrote: >>> >>>> > >>>> > Happy 4-0, Wizzard! >>>> > >>>> > -Stormy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:48 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to contact CRE before busting into their space. When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give you over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following. Len ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:38 AM PST US From: "Bill Boyd" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB I see your problem- what's "flight following?" ;-) Maybe try, "Myrtle Approach, 910LL has Grand Strand in sight (even if you don't); request frequency change to Ass Hat on 124 point 6 before I bust his airspace, over." Y'all have a happy New Year's celebration and we'll catch up with the gang later in the new year. -Stormy On 12/30/06, Lenleg@aol.com wrote: > > > The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR > Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace > or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have > never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just > terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to > contact CRE before busting into their space. > > When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give you > over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following. > > Len > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:40 AM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB Not me! He's never actually been a jerk to me. I follow ALL FAA regulations and procedures to-the-letter and never make any mistakes! It could also be that he recognized the call-signs of the planes I rented as being local and didn't want to stir things up too bad. Truthfully, though, I probably did always contact him outside his airspace. I've actually been surprised that some of my landings didn't elicit some kind of response from the tower: "Nice carrier-trap lieutenant" or "WOW! I didn't know the landing gear on a skyhawk was that strong!" Robbie Walker On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > So you normally land at CRE without talking to the tower? No > wonder they > are in a bad mood! :) > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > tadsargent wrote: >> >> >> What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to >> talk to him >> to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess >> conversation or am >> I >> off base. >> Tad >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Randy Pinkston" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:14 PM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB >> >> >>> >>> >>> there is a clip board at ramp 66 at the counter asking you to >>> fill it >>> out >>> on >>> how the tower treated you.I ask about it and the woman said that >>> they >>> have >>> had many people coming in unhappy in the way they where >>> handled,or in >>> the >>> way he talked to other people. It's about time! maybe it will get >>> better >>> now randy p >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Larry Bowen" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. It was a pretty good birthday. We did the CRE lunch trip >>>> today. >>>> We were alone, but passed Randy P. and his wife as we walked to >>>> Rockefeller. The trip down was smooth and uneventful. The >>>> grinch in >>>> the >>>> tower seems to have been replaced by someone with a better >>>> disposition, >>>> but otherwise less qualified. Beware. >>>> >>>> After we returned and refueled, I gave one of the locals a ride. I >>>> think >>>> he'll be talking about it for a while....standard RV grin. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Larry Bowen >>>> Larry@BowenAero.com >>>> http://BowenAero.com >>>> >>>> Bill Boyd wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> Happy 4-0, Wizzard! >>>>> >>>>> -Stormy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:11 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fw: Pilot Humor A Golden Oldie----neither of these guys are with us today, but it's still as funny today as it was 20 years ago. Subject: Pilot Humor http://youtube.com/v/J3UDCoQnXjA Cappy, did you ever fly with this guy? :<) Dale ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:42 AM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB With that in mind, I did not talk to MYR, I just called CRE 20 miles out. All went find until on 2 mile BASE to 05, at 175 knots, he told me to turn LEFT to downwind to be number two behind a skylane who was just entering a downwind from the north. Huh!? It all went down hill from there....... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Lenleg@aol.com [mailto:Lenleg@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to contact CRE before busting into their space. When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give you over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following. Len ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:04 AM PST US From: MauleDriver Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: weekend lunch-NMB During 3 VMC IFR approaches to Grand Strand 3-5 years ago I noticed that there seems to be no communication between Myrtle approach and the tower. Having them in sight 6 miles out seems about right. Easy to do once you've been there a few times. Some places work better than others. Bill "Riveting an RV10 tailcone" Watson Bill Boyd wrote: > > I see your problem- what's "flight following?" ;-) > > Maybe try, "Myrtle Approach, 910LL has Grand Strand in sight (even if > you don't); request frequency change to Ass Hat on 124 point 6 before > I bust his airspace, over." > > Y'all have a happy New Year's celebration and we'll catch up with the > gang later in the new year. > > -Stormy > > On 12/30/06, Lenleg@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR >> Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE >> airspace >> or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like >> they have >> never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach >> just >> terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no >> time to >> contact CRE before busting into their space. >> >> When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to >> give you >> over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following. >> >> Len >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:34 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fw: Pilot Humor Don't remember flying with him, but I think I may have taught him to drink. Thanks, Cappy The one about having an accident because they moved the bathroom to the back of the plane reminded me of you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fw: Pilot Humor A Golden Oldie----neither of these guys are with us today, but it's still as funny today as it was 20 years ago. Subject: Pilot Humor http://youtube.com/v/J3UDCoQnXjA Cappy, did you ever fly with this guy? :<) Dale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.