---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/05/07: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:05 AM - Re: cool avonics with outside air (Randy Pinkston) 2. 05:09 AM - Re: engine photos (Lenleg@aol.com) 3. 05:26 AM - Re: engine photos (Bill Boyd) 4. 05:57 AM - Fw: [Team RV] Sat BBQ flight to KAND brief for the Atl area departures (Lenleg@aol.com) 5. 09:10 AM - Re: engine photos (bburril) 6. 10:42 AM - Re: engine photos (David Lee) 7. 11:36 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 01/04/07 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com) 8. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: engine photos (tadsargent) 9. 01:59 PM - Re: Shop Ideas (Robbie Walker) 10. 08:59 PM - FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest (Larry Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:45 AM PST US From: "Randy Pinkston" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: cool avonics with outside air Thanks for info...I just don't want any more weight from the fan Plus another elect part inside of plane again thanks for the input flying 260 hr rv7a randy p that's PINKSTON now that we have so many randy p's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Berrier" Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: cool avonics with outside air > > Randy, > > Reference your question about using outside air to cool the avionics stack... > > I have a similar setup on my Cessna that seems to work very well with no > H2o complications... A dedicated outside intake that is ducted into a > downward run, then back uphill to the avionics stack.... > > Roy B. > RV8-A (in-process) > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:19 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: engine photos Thanks for sharing Rad .. wish I could have seen the engine going together .. very interesting ... you might have to be a guest speaker at an SERV event !!! Looking forward to your first flight next week !!! Len In a message dated 1/4/2007 10:50:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vitez@carolina.rr.com writes: Here are some pics of my engine. First, a lot of boring photos of the engine assembly: _http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/assembly/_ (http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/assembly/) And here are a few photos of us hanging the engine: _http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/hanging/_ (http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/hanging/) Radomir -7A FWF (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:15 AM PST US From: "Bill Boyd" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: engine photos I notice a towel unexpectedly appears on the hoist arm in picture #5 - did someone get a "sudden headache" around the time of pic. 4? ;-) -Stormy On 1/4/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > > Here are some pics of my engine. > > > First, a lot of boring photos of the engine assembly: > > > http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/assembly/ > > > And here are a few photos of us hanging the engine: > > > http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/hanging/ > > > Radomir > > -7A FWF > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:51 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [Team RV] Sat BBQ flight to KAND brief for the Atl area departures Z20AC44-4sQFQHEPaeWoOMTiuJO3Nv9lLNCAruz-- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:04 AM PST US From: "bburril" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: engine photos I think they were trying to keep the paint on the hoist.Looked like a lot of hammerheads standing around there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Boyd" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:25 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: engine photos > > I notice a towel unexpectedly appears on the hoist arm in picture #5 - > did someone get a "sudden headache" around the time of pic. 4? ;-) > > -Stormy > > On 1/4/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Here are some pics of my engine. >> >> >> >> First, a lot of boring photos of the engine assembly: >> >> >> >> http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/assembly/ >> >> >> >> >> >> And here are a few photos of us hanging the engine: >> >> >> >> http://www.vitez.net/rv7/engine/hanging/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Radomir >> >> -7A FWF >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:02 AM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: engine photos From: "David Lee" No wonder it took a crowd to get the job done...see the beverage bottles in the trash!!. Good job Rad. David Lee Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85681#85681 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:12 AM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 01/04/07 From: lee.logan@gulfstream.com Here's my list for what it's worth: 1. Compressor: - Enclose if outside, make sure it has top cover - Easy access to the water drain (install on 4x4s so you can reach under it) - Oil bath compressor - Water filter - Separate runs for air tools and paint guns - Manifold so you can run more than one air tool at a time 2. Lights/electricity: - Figure out how many lights you need and then double that (no kidding) - Flourescent, not incandescent - Lots of electrical plugs and a couple of multi-plugs (screw gun charger, sound system, drill bit sharpener, small refrigerator, drop lights, vacuum cleaner, etc.) - A couple of long extension cords - One work area with several plugs for band saw, belt grinder, drill press, other power tools 3. Benches/Tables: - You will need more work benches and worktables than you think - Build out of solid core doors, find throwaways is you can. They are very sturdy and importantly, they are very flat - Solid core doors over cheap kitchen drawer cabinets are great work benches, use simple 2x4s and solid core doors to make a worktable or two 4. Storage: - You will need a place for safe storage of parts before you build, for finished parts as you build. Pegs on the wall, or: - PVC pipe can be used to make a "forest" for vertical storage of ailerons, flaps. fin, h/s, etc 5. Jigs/supports - Might want to consider having your builders build the jigs you will require (this will depend upon which RV you are building and whether you're doing a "quick build" or not, but with all their power tools they can build a jig in half an hour that would take you all day. Also, theirs is likely to be square where yours may not be. - Same for a wing cradle (mine is a rollaround and it's great). Gets the wings to wherever I need them including out of the way. - Saw horses: Have your builder make you at least 2-3 sets. 6. Air hoses: I really like the cheap black rubber hoses they have at Harbor Freight. The coiled types and the colorful blue and yellow (vinyl??) ones get all balled up and catch on everything. This is a case of cheaper is better...they lie flat on the floor, don't coil up badly and roll up easily on a wall roller (which I also recommend installing) - Air hose connectors: Be careful when you buy these (Harbor Freight) and get all the same type. There are several styles with very small differences between them but they aren't interchangeable. Some of your tools will require male and some female, adaptors. Heads up. 7. Painting: Even if you don't paint your airplane yourself, you will still need a place to grey prime/zinc chromate small parts. Even if it's only a phone booth sized, plastic enclosed booth, a paint area that will help keep from getting overspray on everything else in your shop would be useful. 8. Cleanup: You should consider provision(s) for occasional major shop clean up. Grinding, drilling, shaping, bandsawing, deburring, and fiberglass work, etc, makes more dust than you can imagine. Getting as much of your gear off the floor as possible will be a great help with sweeping up/blowing out your shop. Having a place to hang your creeper(s), rollaround seats, to roll up your airhoses and extension cords, for hanging your major parts on the wall, etc. will greatly facilitate a full blown clean up. All I can think of for now! Lee... Lee Logan Government Programs and Sales Support Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation Savannah, Georgia This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have either received this message in error or through interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:52 PM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: engine photos The bottles were all mine. The towel was there for headbutting when the installation called upon it. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: engine photos > > No wonder it took a crowd to get the job done...see the beverage bottles > in the trash!!. > > Good job Rad. > David Lee > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85681#85681 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:06 PM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: RVSouthEast-List: re: Shop Ideas Wow... remind me never to ask you think "long and deeply" on any subject!! That's a lot of really excellent recommendations. Thanks Lee! Robbie On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:33 PM, lee.logan@gulfstream.com wrote: > > Here's my list for what it's worth: > > 1. Compressor: > > - Enclose if outside, make sure it has top cover > - Easy access to the water drain (install on 4x4s so you can > reach under > it) > - Oil bath compressor > - Water filter > - Separate runs for air tools and paint guns > - Manifold so you can run more than one air tool at a time > > 2. Lights/electricity: > - Figure out how many lights you need and then double that (no > kidding) > - Flourescent, not incandescent > - Lots of electrical plugs and a couple of multi-plugs (screw gun > charger, sound system, drill bit sharpener, small refrigerator, drop > lights, vacuum cleaner, etc.) > - A couple of long extension cords > - One work area with several plugs for band saw, belt grinder, drill > press, other power tools > > 3. Benches/Tables: > - You will need more work benches and worktables than you think > - Build out of solid core doors, find throwaways is you can. They > are > very sturdy and importantly, they are very flat > - Solid core doors over cheap kitchen drawer cabinets are great work > benches, use simple 2x4s and solid core doors to make a worktable > or two > > 4. Storage: > - You will need a place for safe storage of parts before you > build, for > finished parts as you build. Pegs on the wall, or: > - PVC pipe can be used to make a "forest" for vertical storage of > ailerons, flaps. fin, h/s, etc > > 5. Jigs/supports > - Might want to consider having your builders build the jigs you > will > require (this will depend upon which RV you are building and > whether you're > doing a "quick build" or not, but with all their power tools they > can build > a jig in half an hour that would take you all day. Also, theirs is > likely > to be square where yours may not be. > - Same for a wing cradle (mine is a rollaround and it's great). > Gets the > wings to wherever I need them including out of the way. > - Saw horses: Have your builder make you at least 2-3 sets. > > 6. Air hoses: I really like the cheap black rubber hoses they have at > Harbor Freight. The coiled types and the colorful blue and yellow > (vinyl??) ones get all balled up and catch on everything. This is > a case > of cheaper is better...they lie flat on the floor, don't coil up > badly and > roll up easily on a wall roller (which I also recommend installing) > - Air hose connectors: Be careful when you buy these (Harbor > Freight) > and get all the same type. There are several styles with very small > differences between them but they aren't interchangeable. Some of > your > tools will require male and some female, adaptors. Heads up. > > 7. Painting: Even if you don't paint your airplane yourself, you will > still need a place to grey prime/zinc chromate small parts. Even > if it's > only a phone booth sized, plastic enclosed booth, a paint area that > will > help keep from getting overspray on everything else in your shop > would be > useful. > > 8. Cleanup: You should consider provision(s) for occasional major > shop > clean up. Grinding, drilling, shaping, bandsawing, deburring, and > fiberglass work, etc, makes more dust than you can imagine. > Getting as > much of your gear off the floor as possible will be a great help with > sweeping up/blowing out your shop. Having a place to hang your > creeper(s), > rollaround seats, to roll up your airhoses and extension cords, for > hanging > your major parts on the wall, etc. will greatly facilitate a full > blown > clean up. > > All I can think of for now! > > > Lee... > > Lee Logan > Government Programs and Sales Support > Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation > Savannah, Georgia > > > This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use > of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and > confidential > information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby > notified > that you have either received this message in error or through > interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or > disclosure > of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is > subject to > criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely > the > sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. > If you > received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail > and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:59 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest FYI. Lunch @ RUQ. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Jack E. Neubacher [mailto:jack@fly4fun.org] HEY MOM, I'm Board, there is nothing to do!!!! EAA Chapter 1083 in Salisbury North Carolina is pleased to announce the Premiere of the: New First Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest. January 6, 2007 at Rowan County Airport (RUQ) Cooked to Order Lunch Menu Served from 11:00 until 1:30 PM Come early for some Hangar Flying and Aircraft Show and Tell We will be expanding this to include Interesting and Informative Guest Speakers and Training Seminars. Starting this Saturday, there is something to do at the Airport on the First Saturday Afternoon Each Month. 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