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1. 05:34 AM - Re: Instrument rating (Paul D. Franzon)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Spins (Larry Bowen)
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Spins (Bill Boyd)
4. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Spins (Ed Anderson)
5. 01:14 PM - LAL weekend (bill crothers)
6. 01:18 PM - Re: LAL weekend (Lenleg@aol.com)
7. 01:25 PM - Re: LAL weekend (Mike.Munn@fluor.com)
8. 05:37 PM - Re: Instrument rating (David Davenport)
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Subject: | Instrument rating |
There is no reason while you can't get your IFR rating in an RV but realize
that it will be harder and you will have to get to a higher skill level for
the check-ride than in a more stable aircraft. You most probably won't be
allowed to take the checkride with the AP on. IFR, especially in training,
there is a lot multi-tasking and you will have to spend a higher percentage
of your time flying the plane than in a Cessna.
I would suggest three things:
- Keeping the spam-can option in mind to get over certain humps and to take
the checkride earlier
- Once you have the basics down do a lot of flying with a safety pilot so
you can reach the required skill level and then go back to the CFII for the
check ride prep
- pass the written BEFORE you start the training.
Paul D. Franzon
Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE
443 Monteith GRC
paulf@ncsu.edu 919.515.7351 fax. 919.515.2285
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill
crothers
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Instrument rating
no reason you can't get ifr rating if equipment meets
stds. no different than a Grumman tiger or other
tricycle gear bird. no instructor should balk at an
RV.
--- Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
>
> What is the opinion of the list, as to, getting IFR
> rating using my RV6a...
> Has any one done that..
> I guess would be hard to find an Instructor, to do
> this....although, I
> think you should have at least the Nav Aid, and Alt.
> hold units installed.
>
>
> Bert
>
> rv6a
>
> do not archive
>
Cheap talk?
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In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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I think watching that was enough fun; I feel no need to replicate the
experience.
Stormy
...feeling a bit like the green-gilled retching teenager who just left
my office...
Y'all be sure to wash your hands during stomach bug season ;-)
On 1/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>
> In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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I don't find them anymore enjoyable watching - than actually doing them (not
that I ever did 52 1/2 turns {:>)). Well, not quite true, cleaning up
afterwards is much easier than in the aircraft.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Spins
>
> I think watching that was enough fun; I feel no need to replicate the
> experience.
>
> Stormy
>
> ...feeling a bit like the green-gilled retching teenager who just left
> my office...
>
> Y'all be sure to wash your hands during stomach bug season ;-)
>
> On 1/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>
>> In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
>>
>> --
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat. wx. looks
promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn. James
and Ken still thinking cold hard ground. Any other
travelers pls. ck. in. Reno
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Acutally I am still thinking cold hard ground !!
Len
In a message dated 1/15/2007 4:15:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bill28104@yahoo.com writes:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat. wx. looks
promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn. James
and Ken still thinking cold hard ground. Any other
travelers pls. ck. in. Reno
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I may meet up with you guys at Alma for the flight to Cedar Key and then
head on to Lake Placid to visit my cousin. No cold hard ground for me.
Mike
do not archive
4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat. wx. looks
promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn. James
and Ken still thinking cold hard ground. Any other
travelers pls. ck. in. Reno
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Subject: | Re: Instrument rating |
Bert, a couple of opinions come to mind here. First, if you have the
basic stick and rudder skills to do IFR levels of precision flying, then
the RV's are easy airplanes to fly IFR. The caveat comes with the
concept that they must be flown pretty much 100% of the time. If all you
have to do is fly a simple ILS, then these airplanes are easy to fly at
a wonderfully precise level. That's what makes these airplanes such good
formation airplanes, but any formation pilot will tell you that the
workload meter is pretty well pegged while flying in a tight group. Same
goes for the IFR environment.
The first time you get a change in your routing from center and have to
find an intersection on a chart that you have no idea how to spell, your
nice quick little bird will wander away from you. A good autopilot takes
all these concerns away, but make sure you have at least altitude hold
on it. I have flown my -6 in a fair amount of IFR, have shot a couple of
approaches down to true minimums, and the plane will absolutely do it.
Just understand that the approach is ALL you will be able to do. You'll
have time or attention span available for little else. That said, go
find a good CFII & go for it. There's not a single rating out there that
will advance your flying skills more than an instrument rating. Have
fun!
David Davenport
RV-6 285 Hours
----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Murillo
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Instrument rating
Hi:
What is the opinion of the list, as to, getting IFR rating using my
RV6a... Has any one done that..
I guess would be hard to find an Instructor, to do this....although, I
think you should have at least the Nav Aid, and Alt. hold units
installed.
Bert
rv6a
do not archive
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