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     1. 05:34 AM - Re: Instrument rating (Paul D. Franzon)
     2. 06:11 AM - Re: Spins (Larry Bowen)
     3. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Spins (Bill Boyd)
     4. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Spins (Ed Anderson)
     5. 01:14 PM - LAL weekend (bill crothers)
     6. 01:18 PM - Re: LAL weekend (Lenleg@aol.com)
     7. 01:25 PM - Re: LAL weekend (Mike.Munn@fluor.com)
     8. 05:37 PM - Re: Instrument rating (David Davenport)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Instrument rating | 
      
      
      There is no reason while you can't get your IFR rating in an RV but realize
      that it will be harder and you will have to get to a higher skill level for
      the check-ride than in a more stable aircraft.  You most probably won't be
      allowed to take the checkride with the AP on.  IFR, especially in training,
      there is a lot multi-tasking and you will have to spend a higher percentage
      of your time flying the plane than in a Cessna.   
      
      I would suggest three things:
      - Keeping the spam-can option in mind to get over certain humps and to take
      the checkride earlier
      - Once you have the basics down do a lot of flying with a safety pilot so
      you can reach the required skill level and then go back to the CFII for the
      check ride prep
      - pass the written BEFORE you start the training.  
      
      Paul D. Franzon
      Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE
      443 Monteith GRC
      paulf@ncsu.edu 919.515.7351 fax. 919.515.2285
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill
      crothers
      Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 6:15 PM
      Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Instrument rating
      
      
      no reason you can't get ifr rating if equipment meets
      stds. no different than a Grumman tiger or other
      tricycle gear bird. no instructor should balk at an
      RV.
      --- Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Hi:
      > 
      > 
      > What is the opinion of the list, as to, getting IFR
      > rating using my RV6a...
      > Has any one done that..
      > I guess would be hard to find an Instructor, to do
      > this....although, I
      > think you should have at least the Nav Aid, and Alt.
      > hold units installed.
      > 
      > 
      > Bert
      > 
      > rv6a
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      
      
      Cheap talk?
      
      
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      In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
      
      http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
      
      -- 
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
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      I think watching that was enough fun; I feel no need to replicate the
      experience.
      
      Stormy
      
      ...feeling a bit like the green-gilled retching teenager who just left
      my office...
      
      Y'all be sure to wash your hands during stomach bug season ;-)
      
      On 1/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
      >
      > In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
      >
      > http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
      >
      > --
      > Larry Bowen
      > Larry@BowenAero.com
      > http://BowenAero.com
      >
      >
      
      
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      I don't find them anymore enjoyable watching - than actually doing them (not 
      that I ever did 52 1/2 turns {:>)).   Well, not quite true, cleaning up 
      afterwards is much easier than in the aircraft.
      
      Ed
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:47 AM
      Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Spins
      
      
      >
      > I think watching that was enough fun; I feel no need to replicate the
      > experience.
      >
      > Stormy
      >
      > ...feeling a bit like the green-gilled retching teenager who just left
      > my office...
      >
      > Y'all be sure to wash your hands during stomach bug season ;-)
      >
      > On 1/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
      >> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      >>
      >> In case you missed the spin video on avweb, check it out:
      >>
      >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4
      >>
      >> --
      >> Larry Bowen
      >> Larry@BowenAero.com
      >> http://BowenAero.com
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat. wx. looks
      promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn.  James
      and Ken still thinking cold hard ground.  Any other
      travelers pls. ck. in.  Reno
      
      
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      Acutally I am still thinking cold hard ground !!
      
      Len
      
      
      In a message dated 1/15/2007 4:15:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
      bill28104@yahoo.com writes:
      
      -->  RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers  <bill28104@yahoo.com>
      
      4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat.  wx. looks
      promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn.  James
      and  Ken still thinking cold hard ground.  Any other
      travelers pls. ck.  in.  Reno
      
      
      Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from  people who know.
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      I may meet up with you guys at Alma for the flight to Cedar Key and then
      head on to Lake Placid to visit my cousin.  No cold hard ground for me.
      
      Mike
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      4 rooms reserved + rental car for Fri/Sat. wx. looks
      promising. Cappy/Larry/Len on for Sleep Inn.  James
      and Ken still thinking cold hard ground.  Any other
      travelers pls. ck. in.  Reno
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Instrument rating | 
      
      Bert, a couple of opinions come to mind here. First, if you have the 
      basic stick and rudder skills to do IFR levels of precision flying, then 
      the RV's are easy airplanes to fly IFR. The caveat comes with the 
      concept that they must be flown pretty much 100% of the time. If all you 
      have to do is fly a simple ILS, then these airplanes are easy to fly at 
      a wonderfully precise level. That's what makes these airplanes such good 
      formation airplanes, but any formation pilot will tell you that the 
      workload meter is pretty well pegged while flying in a tight group. Same 
      goes for the IFR environment.
      The first time you get a change in your routing from center and have to 
      find an intersection on a chart that you have no idea how to spell, your 
      nice quick little bird will wander away from you. A good autopilot takes 
      all these concerns away, but make sure you have at least altitude hold 
      on it. I have flown my -6 in a fair amount of IFR, have shot a couple of 
      approaches down to true minimums, and the plane will absolutely do it. 
      Just understand that the  approach is ALL you will be able to do. You'll 
      have time or attention span available for little else. That said, go 
      find a good CFII & go for it. There's not a single rating out there that 
      will advance your flying skills more than an instrument rating. Have 
      fun!
      
      David Davenport
      RV-6 285 Hours
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bert Murillo 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:37 PM
        Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Instrument rating
      
      
        Hi:
      
      
        What is the opinion of the list, as to, getting IFR rating using my 
      RV6a... Has any one done that..
        I guess would be hard to find an Instructor, to do this....although, I 
       think you should have at least the Nav Aid, and Alt. hold units 
      installed.
      
      
        Bert
      
        rv6a
      
        do not archive
      
      
 
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