---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/10/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:41 AM - Re: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... (Bill Repucci) 2. 05:25 AM - Re: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... (James Clark) 3. 08:18 AM - Re: Cowling Sealing (Bert Murillo) 4. 09:02 AM - Shelby on Sat 14th (Scott Keadle) 5. 09:19 AM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (James Clark) 6. 09:35 AM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (bill crothers) 7. 01:17 PM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (Paul D. Franzon) 8. 02:00 PM - Re: Cowling Sealing (Larry Bowen) 9. 02:03 PM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (Rad Z) 10. 02:22 PM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (bill crothers) 11. 05:42 PM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (tadsargent) 12. 07:26 PM - Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (David Lee) 13. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: Shelby on Sat 14th (Larry Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:25 AM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... "Sooo .... There should be NO EXCUSE for those who wish to participate. :-)" How about, "The plane is still in the basement and Tad won't let me fly his." for an excuse? Good to meet you on Saturday and some of the others. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... In addition to the clinic in Parkersburg in May 11-13, this is another one where a chance to learn will be afforded all (June 22-24). Although it was long, it actually was a fun flight when Bill, Len, Ken and I went to Texas for a clinic in November over a year ago. Sooo .... There should be NO EXCUSE for those who wish to participate. :-) James -------------------------------------------------- Team RVers et al, The Texas Formation Clinic will be held at Brownwood (KBWD) on 22-24 Jun. Classroom Friday afternoon, fly all day Saturday, large formation Sunday morning. Airport will provide hangar space, a 15 passenger van, and discounted fule. Their BBQ chef will do a Texas BBQ Sat at the airport. Block of 40 rooms under "Formation Clinic" at Days Inn, 877-500-2600, $54/night plus C of C will provide a $30 discount coupon off the bill. Wide open airspace, 150'wide runway, large ramp space. Should be a great clinic location. Kahuna will be in attendance. No charge for clinic, just minimal amount for expenses. I will publish on RV-List and Vansairforce soon. Kahuna, your site will not allow me to create a table in Database for sign ups. Please do so with Last Name, First Name, Call Sign, Type Plane, Tail #, Contact #, Experience/FFI #, Home Base, Comments. Falcon -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:49 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... Well, I guess that would would work, BUT(!!), you *could* go as a passenger. :-) James On 4/10/07, Bill Repucci wrote: > > "Sooo .... There should be NO EXCUSE for those who wish to participate. > :-)" > > How about, "The plane is still in the basement and Tad won't let me fly > his." for an excuse? > > Good to meet you on Saturday and some of the others. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *James Clark > *Sent:* Monday, April 09, 2007 11:35 PM > *To:* SERV > *Subject:* RVSouthEast-List: Another Formation Clinic to make note of ... > > In addition to the clinic in Parkersburg in May 11-13, this is another one > where a chance to learn will be afforded all (June 22-24). > > Although it was long, it actually was a fun flight when Bill, Len, Ken and > I went to Texas for a clinic in November over a year ago. > > Sooo .... There should be NO EXCUSE for those who wish to participate. > :-) > > James > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Team RVers et al, > > The Texas Formation Clinic will be held at Brownwood (KBWD) on 22-24 > Jun. Classroom Friday afternoon, fly all day Saturday, large > formation Sunday morning. Airport will provide hangar space, a 15 > passenger van, and discounted fule. Their BBQ chef will do a Texas > BBQ Sat at the airport. Block of 40 rooms under "Formation Clinic" > at Days Inn, 877-500-2600, $54/night plus C of C will provide a $30 > discount coupon off the bill. Wide open airspace, 150'wide runway, > large ramp space. Should be a great clinic location. Kahuna will be > in attendance. No charge for clinic, just minimal amount for > expenses. > > I will publish on RV-List and Vansairforce soon. Kahuna, your site > will not allow me to create a table in Database for sign ups. Please > do so with Last Name, First Name, Call Sign, Type Plane, Tail #, > Contact #, Experience/FFI #, Home Base, Comments. > > Falcon > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james@nextupventures.com . > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > * > > * > > > * > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:31 AM PST US From: "Bert Murillo" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Cowling Sealing On 4/9/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > Seal the inside with epoxy to make it less porous, then put the hi-temp > aluminum tape down near the exhaust. > > Evercoat filler work ok on the outside, as well as others. I think Van's > suggests epoxy thinned with MEK. > > -LB > > Thanks Larry: But then, is not going to be harder, to sand, later, to > apply the paint? If one leaves the expoxy misture, like that, paint would not adhere no? I know is very difficult ro sand later on... any comments? Bert On 4/9/07, Bert Murillo wrote: > > > > HI: > > > > I am ready to apply sealing on my Cowling, getting ready for > > painting. What is the best brand or name, to use. > > > > What is the experience on these products? I see a few at A.C. Spruce > > and others, but I do not know which to choose.. some are not > > cheap at all.. > > > > I figure I will need a Gallon? to seal both sections, inside and > > out? Our cowlings are Fiber Glass?? do not remember the description.. > > > > Suggestions appreciated.. > > > > > > Bert > > > > rv6a > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:47 AM PST US From: "Scott Keadle" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th Hi All, Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at 10:00 for an aerobatic practice session (with real-time ground-based critique and sarcasm) and a hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are details on the IAC19 website, which I think is www.IAC19.org I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of you there. I actually may not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy a couple of weeks ago, but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve Griff plans to be there to demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, and Bill VanAntwerp is bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a formation fly-by by Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list with any questions. Scott ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:31 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Shelby on Sat 14th Our 150+ Young Eagles Session got moved to this date. Maybe if it is still going on afterwards. James On 4/10/07, Scott Keadle wrote: > > Hi All, > > > Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at 10:00 for an aerobatic > practice session (with real-time ground-based critique and sarcasm) and a > hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are details on the IAC19 website, > which I think is www.IAC19.org > > > I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of you there. I actually > may not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy a couple of weeks > ago, but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve Griff plans to be > there to demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, and Bill > VanAntwerp is bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a formation > fly-by by Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list with any > questions. > > > Scott > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:06 AM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th IF the weather cooperates...maybe Tad, Ron, Paul and I can make it...Reno --- Scott Keadle wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at > 10:00 for an aerobatic > practice session (with real-time ground-based > critique and sarcasm) and a > hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are > details on the IAC19 website, > which I think is www.IAC19.org > > > > > I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of > you there. I actually may > not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy > a couple of weeks ago, > but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve > Griff plans to be there to > demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, > and Bill VanAntwerp is > bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a > formation fly-by by > Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list > with any questions. > > > > Scott > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:14 PM PST US From: "Paul D. Franzon" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th I can most likely make it but I wont be able to stay all day. How accommodating is CLT to transitioning AC these days, or should I plan to go around/under the class B? Paul D. Franzon Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE, 919.515.7351 443 Monteith GRC ECE, Box 7911, Raleigh, NC 27695 MRC 223, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606 paulf@ncsu.edu , www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill crothers Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th IF the weather cooperates...maybe Tad, Ron, Paul and I can make it...Reno --- Scott Keadle wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at > 10:00 for an aerobatic > practice session (with real-time ground-based > critique and sarcasm) and a > hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are > details on the IAC19 website, > which I think is www.IAC19.org > > > > > I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of > you there. I actually may > not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy > a couple of weeks ago, > but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve > Griff plans to be there to > demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, > and Bill VanAntwerp is > bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a > formation fly-by by > Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list > with any questions. > > > > Scott > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Cowling Sealing Not sure - it's more epoxy on top of an epoxy cowl. Not sure why sanding difficulty would increase. Assuming you remove blush between applications with water and scotchbright. Is that what you mean? Maybe some one else can confirm. -LB On 4/10/07, Bert Murillo wrote: > > > On 4/9/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > > Seal the inside with epoxy to make it less porous, then put the hi-temp > > aluminum tape down near the exhaust. > > > > Evercoat filler work ok on the outside, as well as others. I think > > Van's suggests epoxy thinned with MEK. > > > > -LB > > > > Thanks Larry: But then, is not going to be harder, to sand, later, to > > apply the paint? > > > If one leaves the expoxy misture, like that, > paint would not adhere no? I know is > very difficult ro sand later on... any comments? > > Bert > > On 4/9/07, Bert Murillo wrote: > > > > > > HI: > > > > > > I am ready to apply sealing on my Cowling, getting ready for > > > painting. What is the best brand or name, to use. > > > > > > What is the experience on these products? I see a few at A.C. > > > Spruce and others, but I do not know which to choose.. some are not > > > cheap at all.. > > > > > > I figure I will need a Gallon? to seal both sections, inside and > > > out? Our cowlings are Fiber Glass?? do not remember the description.. > > > > > > Suggestions appreciated.. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:01 PM PST US From: Rad Z Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th Go over it :) We did. Radomir ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul D. Franzon Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:16:12 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th I can most likely make it but I wont be able to stay all day. How accommodating is CLT to transitioning AC these days, or should I plan to go around/under the class B? Paul D. Franzon Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE, 919.515.7351 443 Monteith GRC ECE, Box 7911, Raleigh, NC 27695 MRC 223, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606 paulf@ncsu.edu , www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill crothers Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th IF the weather cooperates...maybe Tad, Ron, Paul and I can make it...Reno --- Scott Keadle wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at > 10:00 for an aerobatic > practice session (with real-time ground-based > critique and sarcasm) and a > hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are > details on the IAC19 website, > which I think is www.IAC19.org > > > > > I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of > you there. I actually may > not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy > a couple of weeks ago, > but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve > Griff plans to be there to > demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, > and Bill VanAntwerp is > bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a > formation fly-by by > Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list > with any questions. > > > > Scott > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:16 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th come in at 6500' and they will let you overfly most of the time. --- "Paul D. Franzon" wrote: > Franzon" > > I can most likely make it but I wont be able to > stay all day. > > How accommodating is CLT to transitioning AC these > days, or should I plan to > go around/under the class B? > > Paul D. Franzon > Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE, > 919.515.7351 > 443 Monteith GRC > ECE, Box 7911, Raleigh, NC 27695 > MRC 223, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606 > paulf@ncsu.edu , > www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of bill > crothers > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th > > crothers > > IF the weather cooperates...maybe Tad, Ron, Paul and > I > can make it...Reno > --- Scott Keadle wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday > at > > 10:00 for an aerobatic > > practice session (with real-time ground-based > > critique and sarcasm) and a > > hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are > > details on the IAC19 website, > > which I think is www.IAC19.org > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of > > you there. I actually may > > not be flying my own plane, because I lost my > canopy > > a couple of weeks ago, > > but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve > > Griff plans to be there to > > demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, > > and Bill VanAntwerp is > > bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a > > formation fly-by by > > Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list > > with any questions. > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile > and always stay connected > to friends. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:43 PM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th Paul, either take the over the top route, (best) or vector around, if you get caught in a "push" you get to see too much of charlotte. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul D. Franzon" Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th > > I can most likely make it but I wont be able to stay all day. > > How accommodating is CLT to transitioning AC these days, or should I plan > to > go around/under the class B? > > Paul D. Franzon > Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE, > 919.515.7351 > 443 Monteith GRC > ECE, Box 7911, Raleigh, NC 27695 > MRC 223, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606 > paulf@ncsu.edu , www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill > crothers > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shelby on Sat 14th > > > > IF the weather cooperates...maybe Tad, Ron, Paul and I > can make it...Reno > --- Scott Keadle wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Shelby FBO is hosting IAC chapter 19 on Saturday at >> 10:00 for an aerobatic >> practice session (with real-time ground-based >> critique and sarcasm) and a >> hamburger/hotdog on the grill lunch. There are >> details on the IAC19 website, >> which I think is www.IAC19.org >> >> >> >> >> I think it will be a fun time, hope to see some of >> you there. I actually may >> not be flying my own plane, because I lost my canopy >> a couple of weeks ago, >> but will likely be there either way. Also, Steve >> Griff plans to be there to >> demonstrate his new Reno racer with hand controls, >> and Bill VanAntwerp is >> bringing his helicopter. I am also hoping to get a >> formation fly-by by >> Palmetto Flight if possible. Email me on this list >> with any questions. >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> > > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay > connected > to friends. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:52 PM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Shelby on Sat 14th From: "David Lee" I have been vectored right over the airport @ 3500 feet with a slight turn to miss the skyscrapers. This was returning from Spartanburg back to Greensboro. Also have been vectored slightly north and over southern part of Lake Norman. Charlotte has been very easy to work with, IFR or VFR. Of course you will not be going over the airport IFR tho. Have a good flight, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106174#106174 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:01 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Shelby on Sat 14th I typically fly underneath the wedding cake and monitor CLT or Concord. And I smile when they call me out to other traffic and guess, based on the ground speed, that I'm a light twin. :) -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On 4/10/07, David Lee wrote: > > > I have been vectored right over the airport @ 3500 feet with a slight turn > to miss the skyscrapers. This was returning from Spartanburg back to > Greensboro. Also have been vectored slightly north and over southern part of > Lake Norman. Charlotte has been very easy to work with, IFR or VFR. Of > course you will not be going over the airport IFR tho. > > Have a good flight, > David > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.