---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/14/07: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:24 AM - Re: Priming & sealing Cowling (Steve Glasgow) 2. 04:56 AM - Fw: Postpone IAC Chapter 19 - April 14 at Shelby, NC due to weather (John Scott Keadle) 3. 07:05 AM - Re: Priming & sealing Cowling (Dale Ensing) 4. 04:08 PM - Yellowstone or Bust! (Steve Glasgow) 5. 05:03 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Radomir Zaric) 6. 05:45 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (bill crothers) 7. 05:58 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Bill Boyd) 8. 06:32 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Dale Walter) 9. 06:49 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Steve Glasgow) 10. 07:06 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Steve Glasgow) 11. 07:08 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Steve Glasgow) 12. 07:11 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Steve Glasgow) 13. 08:00 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (bill crothers) 14. 08:03 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (bill crothers) 15. 08:11 PM - SNF (Larry Bowen) 16. 09:12 PM - Re: Yellowstone or Bust! (Bill Repucci) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:12 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Priming & sealing Cowling I recommend 410 microlight from West Marine as a first step. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bert Murillo To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Priming & sealing Cowling Hi: Still waiting to hear from the list, as to the best way to seal, and prime Cowling, to be ready for paint. Recently I hear one can buy some product at Waltmart, that works well for Fibe Glass Cowling... I could not find any thing like that.. What have the list, used to seal the cowling, and what kind or primer. Am I correct in saying, that one must First Seal , then add primer? Or by adding special kind of primer, would do both? I know that Van's said use Epoxy mix with Acetone, 50/50 If one do that, then, what, just paint? no primer? If not then I am sure it has to be sanded, before anything will adhere there.. And sanding, that mixture, is no an easy job, I have seen it..... I really need clarification, with specifics... names brands etc.. Would be appreciate, your comments. Bert rv6a Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:34 AM PST US From: "John Scott Keadle" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: Postpone IAC Chapter 19 - April 14 at Shelby, NC due to weather -----Original Message----- From: MACON, LARRY [mailto:Larry.Macon@invista.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 04:33 PM michael.davis@areva.com, Sgerow@aol.com, epat@us.ibm.com, scott@keadle.com, LukePitts2C@yahoo.com, lostaero@hughes.net, rockingrobbins@earthlink.net, eric.sandifer@siemens.com, ronschreck@alltel.com, jcswifter@yahoo.com, acronut7@aol.com, thaynie@carolina.rr.com, htolson@nccoxmail.com, jwslim1@aol.com, Cwisman@aol.com, tom.hanks@crbusa.com, lbash766@aol.com, bondr@aol.com, agodbold@utk.edu, N4618M@yahoo.com, ciena@aol.com, rkstevens@verizon.net, tookyflyer@tds.net, vcruse@earthlink.net, compass21aviation@yahoo.com, jack.lewis@coats.com, bryan.taylor@cci-env.com, Godwinsells@yahoo.com, 'Terence E. McEnally', 'Travis Hames', marty1965@msn.com Subject: Postpone IAC Chapter 19 - April 14 at Shelby, NC due to weather Hi Everyone, Due to weather concerns for tomorrow, we will postpone our meeting/practice at Shelby, NC. Sorry for this inconvenience but several of our folks in the western part of NC had conflicts for tomorrow and the weather also does not appear to be great. Morning may not have rain but the clouds and ceiling may prohibit any aerobatics. With Sun N Fun next week, we will have to delay for more than a week. I will send out a notice if we reschedule. Thanks, Larry -----Original Message----- From: MACON, LARRY Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:49 PM michael.davis@areva.com; Sgerow@aol.com; epat@us.ibm.com; scott@keadle.com; LukePitts2C@yahoo.com; lostaero@hughes.net; rockingrobbins@earthlink.net; eric.sandifer@siemens.com; ronschreck@alltel.com; jcswifter@yahoo.com; acronut7@aol.com; thaynie@carolina.rr.com; htolson@nccoxmail.com; jwslim1@aol.com; Cwisman@aol.com; tom.hanks@crbusa.com; lbash766@aol.com; bondr@aol.com; agodbold@utk.edu; N4618M@yahoo.com; ciena@aol.com; rkstevens@verizon.net; tookyflyer@tds.net; vcruse@earthlink.net; compass21aviation@yahoo.com; jack.lewis@coats.com Subject: IAC Chapter 19 - April 14 at Shelby, NC Hi Everyone, Looking forward seeing you at the Shelby, NC airport (EHO) this coming Saturday. We plan to begin at 10:00AM, have a brief meeting, practice time, lunch and depart around 2:00PM. Devon Raisch, FBO Manager, said he would have someone there to provide our lunch for donation to a missions project as was provided last year. In accordance with IAC headquarters, to be covered under our IAC insurance policy, those wishing to practice aerobatics must have their airplane tech. inspected as we do at our IAC contests. I have attached a copy of the Technical Inspection form for those not familiar with it, so please plan to bring the following: For the aircraft: - Airworthiness certificate - Registration - Operating limitations (copy OK) - Weight & balance - Proof of aircraft current insurance (copy OK) - Proof of current annual inspection (copy OK) For the pilot: - Pilot certificate - Current medical - Photo ID - Current flight review sign off (copy OK) - IAC card (can join at Shelby) For the parachute: - Log of current pack If weather is questionable, please call the Shelby airport at 704-487-1161 as we will plan to leave information there. We encourage you to bring a bring a friend and introduce them to this great sport of aerobatics! See you on Saturday at Shelby! Larry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:57 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Priming & sealing Cowling Bert, I'll try to help. I just finished doing this using West Systems epoxy resin. When preparing the cowl for painting, two things must be accomplished. 1, fill all the pin holes. 2, Build up the surface of the fiberglass with something so that the fiberglass cloth pattern does not show thru the paint. Especially if the final color will be a dark color. The first coat of epoxy resin was with no filler and thinned with solvent as Van's recommends. It was applied with a plastic card (like and old credit card or hotel pass key) used like a scraper. Just pour on some of the mixed resin and spread it around the cowl surface with the card laying almost flat to the surface so that it pushes the resin into the pin holes. Then using the card, scrape the fiberglass surface to remove all of the excess resin. (Any excess mixed resin can be applied to the inner surfaces of the cowl to seal it).After a day or so of drying, lightly sand the surface with #80 aluminum oxide sand paper to remove only the high points on the surface. Wash the sanding dust off, let it dry well and prepare for the next coat of resin. The second coat of resin was not thinned with solvent and had no filler but applied in the same way. Again sand with the #80 paper after resin has dried for a day or so. (If the epoxy resin tends to stick to the sand paper rather than coming off as dust, the resin has not sufficiently cured.) The first two coats of resin filled the pin holes but more is needed to build up the surface so that the cloth pattern is covered. To do this I changed the application method as it is difficult to get a uniform film of wet resin on the surface without scraping all the resin off using the plastic card. I used a four inch small diameter paint roller used for smooth surfaces. You can purchase the paint roller from home supply or paint stores. ( I found I could use the roller for multiply coats if you clean it well with lacquer thinner immediately after use. Put some thinner in a metal pan and roll the roller back and forth to purge the resin from the roller. Wash roller with dish detergent and water and let dry. This cleaning method will not completely clean all the resin out of the roller but good enough to use again since you will be sanding the cured resin.) A friend used a foam type roller instead of a cloth type roller and said it work well but I am not sure about cleaning a foam roller with solvent. Sand the cured resin with #100 aluminum oxide sand paper. Continue with additional coats of resin until the surface is smooth and you can no longer see the cloth pattern. I put a filler into the third coat of resin to build the film thickness and make it easier to sand but found it harder to roll out smoothly so the remaining coats of resin were without filler. The first coat of paint should be an epoxy sanding primer followed by a sealing epoxy primer that will also smooth the surface for the final finish coating. Preparing the fiberglass parts it is a lot work but doing the job properly will show in the final coating. Hope this helps. Not saying this is the way you should do it but this worked for me. If you are going to have the plane painted by a professional, check with painter. He may do all this for you as part of the paint job. Dale Ensing RV-6A > Still waiting to hear from the list, as to the best way to seal, and > prime > Cowling, to be ready for paint. > Bert > rv6a ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:17 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 minute intervals. Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at KSAV you can meet us here. After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute intervals for KSUX where we will overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it several times then make a fuel stop at KCUT. >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it several times and then on to KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to U68 and follow Bighorn Lake to KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful places we could ever want to see. I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most cases avoid fairly high terrain, controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the bladder, lowest fuel cost and best security for overnight. Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever you use and let me know what you think. Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the group the deadline for in or out is April 27. We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the wither is Lenish on day one we should still have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, you can leave a day early or whenever you have seen enough. Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along the Bighorn Mts and then on to Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to Charlotte. Tag alongs are welcome. Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are welcome. Cappy ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:42 PM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! What are you guys flying (SR-71??) if it takes 11 minutes from JQF to SAV... This trip just got a lot more interesting :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 minute intervals. Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at KSAV you can meet us here. After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute intervals for KSUX where we will overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it several times then make a fuel stop at KCUT. >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it several times and >then on to KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to U68 and follow Bighorn Lake to KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful places we could ever want to see. I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most cases avoid fairly high terrain, controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the bladder, lowest fuel cost and best security for overnight. Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever you use and let me know what you think. Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the group the deadline for in or out is April 27. We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the wither is Lenish on day one we should still have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, you can leave a day early or whenever you have seen enough. Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along the Bighorn Mts and then on to Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to Charlotte. Tag alongs are welcome. Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are welcome. Cappy ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:39 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks all <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ we need a group meet on this deal soon. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > minute intervals. > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > KSAV you can meet us here. > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > intervals for KSUX where we > will > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > several times then make a fuel > stop at KCUT. > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it > several times and then > on to > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to > U68 and follow Bighorn > Lake to > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > places we could ever want to > see. > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most > cases avoid fairly high > terrain, > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the > bladder, lowest fuel > cost > and best security for overnight. > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever > you use and let me know > what you think. > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > group the deadline for in or > out is April 27. > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > wither is Lenish on day one > we should still > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, > you can leave a day early > or whenever you > have seen enough. > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along > the Bighorn Mts and > then on to > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > welcome. > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > welcome. > > Cappy > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:05 PM PST US From: "Bill Boyd" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Thanks for doing all this research, Cappy. I really hope we can be in on this one. I've booked the time off. -Stormy On 4/14/07, bill crothers wrote: > > > > > Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world > traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road > miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks all > <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. > airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ we > need a group meet on this deal soon. > --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > > minute intervals. > > > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > > KSAV you can meet us here. > > > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > > intervals for KSUX where we > > will > > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > > several times then make a fuel > > stop at KCUT. > > > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it > > several times and then > > on to > > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to > > U68 and follow Bighorn > > Lake to > > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > > places we could ever want to > > see. > > > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most > > cases avoid fairly high > > terrain, > > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the > > bladder, lowest fuel > > cost > > and best security for overnight. > > > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever > > you use and let me know > > what you think. > > > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > > group the deadline for in or > > out is April 27. > > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > > wither is Lenish on day one > > we should still > > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, > > you can leave a day early > > or whenever you > > have seen enough. > > > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along > > the Bighorn Mts and > > then on to > > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > > welcome. > > > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > > welcome. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:39 PM PST US From: "Dale Walter" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill crothers Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. Just lurking... sounds like a great trip. I flew to Yellowstone (Cody) a couple years ago from the southeast. The drive from Cody to Yellowstone is among the most scenic in the country, also Teddy Roosevelt has been quoted to say this. There are 2 main routes, one goes to the east entrance, the other to the north entrance. Both fantastic. Dale RV6a 848 hrs Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:18 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Rad you are sharp, KSAV should be KSVH or Statesville, NC. Thanks Everyone make the correction. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Radomir Zaric To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! What are you guys flying (SR-71??) if it takes 11 minutes from JQF to SAV... This trip just got a lot more interesting :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:08 PM To: SERV; Cornwell, Jerry Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 minute intervals. Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at KSAV you can meet us here. After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute intervals for KSUX where we will overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it several times then make a fuel stop at KCUT. >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it several times and >then on to KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to U68 and follow Bighorn Lake to KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful places we could ever want to see. I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most cases avoid fairly high terrain, controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the bladder, lowest fuel cost and best security for overnight. Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever you use and let me know what you think. Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the group the deadline for in or out is April 27. We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the wither is Lenish on day one we should still have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, you can leave a day early or whenever you have seen enough. Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along the Bighorn Mts and then on to Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to Charlotte. Tag alongs are welcome. Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are welcome. Cappy ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:03 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! I don't know what map you are looking at? It may be 133 miles to the center of the park. But I'm told by several sources including the NPS that Cody is 52 miles from the East entrance to the park. You are correct about the mountains. But if you look at the route I planned, we can safely make it without going above 7,500. Check WAC CF-17. The best alternate is the last one you flew over. With legs of 2:06 and 1:48 we can always go back were we took off last. See Revision 1 to the Flight Plan. Thanks Rad. Maybe you should bring him with you Reno. He needs to see America. God I hope I got the coordinates for Mt. Rushmore and Devils Tower right. Does this mean Reno is IN? I hope so! When are you going to be at Sun N Fun. Randy and I will be there Friday and Saturday. Lets all get together. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks all <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ we need a group meet on this deal soon. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > minute intervals. > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > KSAV you can meet us here. > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > intervals for KSUX where we > will > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > several times then make a fuel > stop at KCUT. > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it > several times and then > on to > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to > U68 and follow Bighorn > Lake to > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > places we could ever want to > see. > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most > cases avoid fairly high > terrain, > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the > bladder, lowest fuel > cost > and best security for overnight. > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever > you use and let me know > what you think. > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > group the deadline for in or > out is April 27. > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > wither is Lenish on day one > we should still > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, > you can leave a day early > or whenever you > have seen enough. > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along > the Bighorn Mts and > then on to > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > welcome. > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > welcome. > > Cappy > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:29 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! We all want you and Miriam to make it. Does this mean you are IN? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Thanks for doing all this research, Cappy. I really hope we can be in on this one. I've booked the time off. -Stormy On 4/14/07, bill crothers wrote: bill28104@yahoo.com> Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks all <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ we need a group meet on this deal soon. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > minute intervals. > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > KSAV you can meet us here. > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > intervals for KSUX where we > will > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > several times then make a fuel > stop at KCUT. > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it > several times and then > on to > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to > U68 and follow Bighorn > Lake to > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > places we could ever want to > see. > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most > cases avoid fairly high > terrain, > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the > bladder, lowest fuel > cost > and best security for overnight. > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever > you use and let me know > what you think. > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > group the deadline for in or > out is April 27. > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > wither is Lenish on day one > we should still > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, > you can leave a day early > or whenever you > have seen enough. > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along > the Bighorn Mts and > then on to > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > welcome. > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > welcome. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:49 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Thanks for the build up. Comments like those will help to get SERV members committed. Now that you have quit lurking when de we get to meet you? Hay, since you have been there you can be lead. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Walter To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill crothers Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. Just lurking... sounds like a great trip. I flew to Yellowstone (Cody) a couple years ago from the southeast. The drive from Cody to Yellowstone is among the most scenic in the country, also Teddy Roosevelt has been quoted to say this. There are 2 main routes, one goes to the east entrance, the other to the north entrance. Both fantastic. Dale RV6a 848 hrs Do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:31 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! I was looking at my 1999 road Atlas showing distance. Anyway if its that scenic, who cares how long it takes? Found alt. fuel stops cheaper than a couple of yours, but who knows in 2 months. I gather you are out for LAL. We can dub this trip Cappy's Excellent Adventure. RR --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Thanks for the build up. Comments like those will > help to get > SERV members committed. > > Now that you have quit lurking when de we get to > meet you? > > Hay, since you have been there you can be lead. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale Walter > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:32 PM > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or > Bust! > > > Walter" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of bill > crothers > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or > Bust! > > crothers > > Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da > world > traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 > road > miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. > > > Just lurking... sounds like a great trip. > > I flew to Yellowstone (Cody) a couple years ago > from the southeast. The > drive from Cody to Yellowstone is among the most > scenic in the country, also > Teddy Roosevelt has been quoted to say this. There > are 2 main routes, one > goes to the east entrance, the other to the north > entrance. Both fantastic. > > Dale > RV6a 848 hrs > > Do not archive > > > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:43 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! I guess it pays to read the WHOLE e-mail!! I'm at LAL Fri/Sun. waiting to hear from LB re: motel or tent. James/Ken/Tad are going earlier. Smokey and Paul are maybe's. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > I don't know what map you are looking at? It may be > 133 miles to the center of the park. > But I'm told by several sources including the NPS > that Cody is 52 miles from the East entrance to the > park. > > You are correct about the mountains. But if you > look at the route I planned, we can safely make > it without going above 7,500. Check WAC CF-17. > > The best alternate is the last one you flew over. > With legs of 2:06 and 1:48 we can always go back > were we > took off last. > > See Revision 1 to the Flight Plan. Thanks Rad. > Maybe you should bring him with you Reno. > He needs to see America. God I hope I got the > coordinates for Mt. Rushmore and Devils Tower right. > > Does this mean Reno is IN? I hope so! > > When are you going to be at Sun N Fun. Randy and I > will be there Friday and Saturday. > > Lets all get together. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill crothers > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or > Bust! > > > crothers > > Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da > world > traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 > road > miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks > all > <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. > airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ > we > need a group meet on this deal soon. > --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > > minute intervals. > > > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > > KSAV you can meet us here. > > > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > > intervals for KSUX where we > > will > > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > > several times then make a fuel > > stop at KCUT. > > > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly > around it > > several times and then > > on to > > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn > Mts to > > U68 and follow Bighorn > > Lake to > > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > > places we could ever want to > > see. > > > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in > most > > cases avoid fairly high > > terrain, > > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on > the > > bladder, lowest fuel > > cost > > and best security for overnight. > > > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or > whatever > > you use and let me know > > what you think. > > > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > > group the deadline for in or > > out is April 27. > > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > > wither is Lenish on day one > > we should still > > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you > want, > > you can leave a day early > > or whenever you > > have seen enough. > > > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way > along > > the Bighorn Mts and > > then on to > > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > > welcome. > > > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > > welcome. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:40 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SNF We are still planning to hotel it. Down Friday, back Monday. -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On 4/14/07, bill crothers wrote: > > > > > I guess it pays to read the WHOLE e-mail!! I'm at LAL > Fri/Sun. waiting to hear from LB re: motel or tent. > James/Ken/Tad are going earlier. Smokey and Paul are > maybe's. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:17 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! "God I hope I got the coordinates for Mt. Rushmore and Devils Tower right." >From Google Earth: Mt. Rushmore: 43=B052'44.21"N 103=B027'35.37"W Elev 5,504 ft Devis Tower: 44=B035'19.90"N 104=B041'57.34"W Sounds like you are going to have a great trip. With luck we might be ready. Today I finished installing the FAB. We are getting closer to moving it to the airport. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! I don't know what map you are looking at? It may be 133 miles to the center of the park. But I'm told by several sources including the NPS that Cody is 52 miles from the East entrance to the park. You are correct about the mountains. But if you look at the route I planned, we can safely make it without going above 7,500. Check WAC CF-17. The best alternate is the last one you flew over. With legs of 2:06 and 1:48 we can always go back were we took off last. See Revision 1 to the Flight Plan. Thanks Rad. Maybe you should bring him with you Reno. He needs to see America. God I hope I got the coordinates for Mt. Rushmore and Devils Tower right. Does this mean Reno is IN? I hope so! When are you going to be at Sun N Fun. Randy and I will be there Friday and Saturday. Lets all get together. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Yellowstone or Bust! Quite the ambitious trip, but of course, you da world traveler anyway. Looks good, I show Cody is 133 road miles from Y-Stone...2+ hr. drive. highest peaks all <10k apparantly. guess you will line up some alt. airports to cover wx. deversions. you doing LAL/ we need a group meet on this deal soon. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Cappy has been busy. See attached Flight Plan. > > The plan is to meet up at KSAV and launch at 5 > minute intervals. > > Day one fuel stop is KLWV. If not meeting up at > KSAV you can meet us here. > > After fuel and other breaks, launch at 5 minute > intervals for KSUX where we > will > overnight. Hotels and cars at Souix City later. > > Day two we fly to Mt. Rushmore, fly around it > several times then make a fuel > stop at KCUT. > > >From KCUT we fly to the Devils Tower, fly around it > several times and then > on to > KSHR. Then we fly the NE side of the Bighorn Mts to > U68 and follow Bighorn > Lake to > KCOD. This is truly one of the most beautiful > places we could ever want to > see. > > I have tried to structure the flight plan to in most > cases avoid fairly high > terrain, > controlled airspace and MOA's. Also is easy on the > bladder, lowest fuel > cost > and best security for overnight. > > Plug it into to AOPA's real time planner or whatever > you use and let me know > what you think. > > Remember to be assured of a hotel room with the > group the deadline for in or > out is April 27. > We have rooms for June 9 thru June 12 so if the > wither is Lenish on day one > we should still > have time to see all of Yellowstone. If you want, > you can leave a day early > or whenever you > have seen enough. > > Cappy and Lynne plan to come back the same way along > the Bighorn Mts and > then on to > Denver CO, Hobbs NM, Houston TX and back to > Charlotte. Tag alongs are > welcome. > > Questions, Comments, Suggestions or Kudos are > welcome. > > Cappy > > nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m p ; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.