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1. 03:07 AM - Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! (Steve Glasgow)
2. 04:16 AM - Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! (Robbie Walker)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! ()
4. 05:53 AM - source for ready-made hoses (Bill Boyd)
5. 06:03 AM - Re: source for ready-made hoses (Randy Utsey)
6. 06:40 AM - You gotta read this! ()
7. 07:21 AM - Re: You gotta read this! (James Clark)
8. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! (Rick Gray)
9. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: You gotta read this! ()
10. 11:22 AM - return home trip from KCOD (Bill Boyd)
11. 11:55 AM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Lenleg@aol.com)
12. 12:14 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (James Clark)
13. 01:32 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bill Boyd)
14. 01:37 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Paul D. Franzon)
15. 02:40 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
16. 03:02 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bart Filipiak)
17. 03:21 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (bburril)
18. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! ()
19. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Steve Glasgow)
20. 04:34 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Steve Glasgow)
21. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (bill crothers)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! (Rick Gray)
23. 06:43 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bill Repucci)
24. 07:47 PM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
25. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
26. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! |
Congrats to all! Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our
SERV members!!!
Way to go guys !!!
Len
In a message dated 5/13/2007 7:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jclarkmail@gmail.com writes:
"Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an additional FFI
Wingman!!
This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of Falcon Flight
... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in "cahoots' with the
local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey Flight ... Ohio).
The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of serious
formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight Lead"
checkride and they passed.
Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and passed.
Congrats are in order and well deserved!
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! |
Congratulations guys!
do not archive
On May 13, 2007, at 7:20 PM, James Clark wrote:
> "Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an additional
> FFI Wingman!!
>
> This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
> Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of Falcon
> Flight ... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in "cahoots'
> with the local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey
> Flight ... Ohio).
>
> The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of serious
> formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
>
> Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight Lead"
> checkride and they passed.
> Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and passed.
>
> Congrats are in order and well deserved!
>
>
> --
> This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> james@nextupventures.com .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! |
Thanks Robbie, It was challenging and fun.
Tad "Stripes" Sargent
FFI Wingman
>
> From: Robbie Walker <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 07:15:46 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!!
>
> Congratulations guys!
>
> do not archive
> On May 13, 2007, at 7:20 PM, James Clark wrote:
>
> > "Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an additional
> > FFI Wingman!!
> >
> > This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
> > Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of Falcon
> > Flight ... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in "cahoots'
> > with the local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey
> > Flight ... Ohio).
> >
> > The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of serious
> > formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
> >
> > Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight Lead"
> > checkride and they passed.
> > Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and passed.
> >
> > Congrats are in order and well deserved!
> >
> >
> > --
> > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> > james@nextupventures.com .
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | source for ready-made hoses |
It's been ten years - time to replace the aging home-made oil and fuel hoses
FWF.
This time I want to go with "lifetime" teflon hoses and professionally
installed fittings and firesleeve, with pressure testing, so I'm looking for
a good vendor to provide ready-made hoses. Any recommendations as far as
price and service, turn-around time and so forth?
Thanks,
-Bill B / Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: source for ready-made hoses |
Use the Nascar guys / BSR (Butch Stevens Racing) in Mooresville is one
source / turnaround is pretty prompt
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: source for ready-made hoses
It's been ten years - time to replace the aging home-made oil and fuel
hoses FWF.
This time I want to go with "lifetime" teflon hoses and professionally
installed fittings and firesleeve, with pressure testing, so I'm looking
for a good vendor to provide ready-made hoses. Any recommendations as
far as price and service, turn-around time and so forth?
Thanks,
-Bill B / Stormy
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| Subject: | You gotta read this! |
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| Subject: | Re: You gotta read this! |
I don't know if this is what you meant but if not,
YOU GOTTA READ THIS (formation related ... the best I have read like this)
http://n466pg.blogspot.com/2007/05/formation-clinic.html
It truly captures the feeling of a "newbie". Hey even an old timer like me
got sweaty palms reading it. :-)
James
p.s. Stay tuned for a view of "Stripes" "smack dab in the middle of things".
On 5/14/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> ----=_NextPart_001_003B_01C79603.0888F490--
>
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! |
Congrats to all.....you EARNED it!
Thanks to ALL of you that attended the clinic...we appreciate your
support.
Tad...my email is rickgray@roadunner.com , please send any pics you have
of the 7 ship 'RV flight'. Also, send pics to Rob Logan (photo ship) at
rob@logan.com so he can add them to his website for all to see.
Oh yea....'You Snooze...You Looze'.
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
----- Original Message -----
From: tadsargent@bellsouth.net
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of
our SERV members!!!
Thanks Robbie, It was challenging and fun.
Tad "Stripes" Sargent
FFI Wingman
>
> From: Robbie Walker <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 07:15:46 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our
SERV members!!!
>
> Congratulations guys!
>
> do not archive
> On May 13, 2007, at 7:20 PM, James Clark wrote:
>
> > "Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an additional
> > FFI Wingman!!
> >
> > This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
> > Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of Falcon
> > Flight ... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in
"cahoots'
> > with the local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey
> > Flight ... Ohio).
> >
> > The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of serious
> > formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
> >
> > Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight
Lead"
> > checkride and they passed.
> > Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and
passed.
> >
> > Congrats are in order and well deserved!
> >
> >
> > --
> > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> > james@nextupventures.com .
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: You gotta read this! |
Yes. That's the one. My ISP must have stripped the attachment.
Smokey
>
> From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 10:21:20 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: You gotta read this!
>
> I don't know if this is what you meant but if not,
>
> YOU GOTTA READ THIS (formation related ... the best I have read like this)
>
> http://n466pg.blogspot.com/2007/05/formation-clinic.html
>
> It truly captures the feeling of a "newbie". Hey even an old timer like me
> got sweaty palms reading it. :-)
>
> James
>
> p.s. Stay tuned for a view of "Stripes" "smack dab in the middle of things".
>
> On 5/14/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > ----=_NextPart_001_003B_01C79603.0888F490--
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> james@nextupventures.com .
>
>
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| Subject: | return home trip from KCOD |
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be
crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd
get the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
On the way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about
the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty
leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a
trip without a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way
home from Cody?
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I received a good book about mountain flying for Xmas last year ... you are
welcome to it.
Len
In a message dated 5/14/2007 2:22:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sportav8r@gmail.com writes:
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be
crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd get
the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the
way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about the
trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty
leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a trip
without a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way home from
Cody?
-Stormy
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List)
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb of
"giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette (160HP/Fixed
pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the crew to cut me
some slack on the power settings.
Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
James
On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to
> return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Thanks, buddy. I';ll take you up on that.
On 5/14/07, Lenleg@aol.com <Lenleg@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I received a good book about mountain flying for Xmas last year ... you
> are welcome to it.
>
> Len
>
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2007 2:22:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sportav8r@gmail.com writes:
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to
> return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
> *
>
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| Subject: | return home trip from KCOD |
I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging through
Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure if I
want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route several
times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the time to
do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake Powell,
between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note that at
this time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough thermals
over AZ,NM and TX.
Paul D. Franzon
Do not archive
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be
crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd
get the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
On the way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about
the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty
leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a
trip without a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way
home from Cody?
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I may head down that way to visit my brother in Houston.
Smokey
>
> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 02:21:51 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
> the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
> I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be
> crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd
> get the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
> On the way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about
> the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty
> leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a
> trip without a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way
> home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
If you're not opposed to one on one instruction,
Speedbird Aviation at KMRN did a mountain flying
seminar about a year ago, they would probably be
willing to run that by you for a small fee.
828-757-0099
I did it and feel quite a bit better about Mountain
Flying. You can run your proposed route by them as
well. Couldn't hurt.
(P.S. I don't know where you are, that may be out of
range. BUT: EAA 731 is hosting a Fly-In at Hickory
Regional KHKY with NO RAMP FEES this Saturday 0800 -
1600 EDT. The guys from Speedbird will be there as
well. If you are interested and choose to do so, hunt
me down and I'll introduce you.)
Sounds like a good trip! Good luck!
Bart
--- Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from
> Yellowstone, and considering
> the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some
> mountain flying instruction, so
> I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> the terrain I'd be
> crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> (11,500)! Just thought I'd
> get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
> On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about
> the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by
> Sunday. That's plenty
> leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however,
> hate to make that long a
> trip without a wingman or two. Who else is
> considering the southerly way
> home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I was considering from cody to jackson hole,to page az,to the grand canyon
and monument valley on the way home .
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bart Filipiak" <bfilipiak@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> <bfilipiak@yahoo.com>
>
> If you're not opposed to one on one instruction,
> Speedbird Aviation at KMRN did a mountain flying
> seminar about a year ago, they would probably be
> willing to run that by you for a small fee.
>
> 828-757-0099
>
>
> I did it and feel quite a bit better about Mountain
> Flying. You can run your proposed route by them as
> well. Couldn't hurt.
>
> (P.S. I don't know where you are, that may be out of
> range. BUT: EAA 731 is hosting a Fly-In at Hickory
> Regional KHKY with NO RAMP FEES this Saturday 0800 -
> 1600 EDT. The guys from Speedbird will be there as
> well. If you are interested and choose to do so, hunt
> me down and I'll introduce you.)
>
> Sounds like a good trip! Good luck!
>
> Bart
>
>
> --- Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from
>> Yellowstone, and considering
>> the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some
>> mountain flying instruction, so
>> I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
>> the terrain I'd be
>> crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
>> (11,500)! Just thought I'd
>> get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
>> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
>> On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
>> something. One nice thing about
>> the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by
>> Sunday. That's plenty
>> leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however,
>> hate to make that long a
>> trip without a wingman or two. Who else is
>> considering the southerly way
>> home from Cody?
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>
>
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Rick I sent the photos to you but forgot Rob. Please send them along.
How did you get the name "Schmoozer" anyway.
Stripes
>
> From: "Rick Gray" <rickgray@roadrunner.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 10:47:02 EDT
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV
members!!!
>
> Congrats to all.....you EARNED it!
>
> Thanks to ALL of you that attended the clinic...we appreciate your support.
>
> Tad...my email is rickgray@roadunner.com , please send any pics you have of the
7 ship 'RV flight'. Also, send pics to Rob Logan (photo ship) at rob@logan.com
so he can add them to his website for all to see.
>
> Oh yea....'You Snooze...You Looze'.
>
> Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tadsargent@bellsouth.net
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV
members!!!
>
>
>
> Thanks Robbie, It was challenging and fun.
> Tad "Stripes" Sargent
> FFI Wingman
>
> >
> > From: Robbie Walker <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
> > Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 07:15:46 EDT
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV
members!!!
> >
> > Congratulations guys!
> >
> > do not archive
> > On May 13, 2007, at 7:20 PM, James Clark wrote:
> >
> > > "Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an additional
> > > FFI Wingman!!
> > >
> > > This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
> > > Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of Falcon
> > > Flight ... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in "cahoots'
> > > with the local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey
> > > Flight ... Ohio).
> > >
> > > The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of serious
> > > formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
> > >
> > > Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight Lead"
> > > checkride and they passed.
> > > Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and passed.
> > >
> > > Congrats are in order and well deserved!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> > > james@nextupventures.com .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I
did not get any INFO on you being IN.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging through
Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure if I
want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route
several times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have
the time to do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through
Lake Powell, between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of
fun. Note that at this time of year, you will have daily T-storms
over CO, and rough thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
Paul D. Franzon
Do not archive
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Boyd
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Stormy one of the best sites I have seen on mountain flying is AOPA.
This is awesome!
http://flash.aopa.org/asf/mountainFlying/html/flash.cfm
There is more here but you may have to dig through it.
http://www.aopa.org/members/files/guides/mntfly.html
Next summer I was planning on Sedona, AZ, the Grand Canyon
and Monument Valley. But it can be done anytime.
If you are planning to cross mountains you will need at least 2000'
above the
highest terrain to be safe. I would recommend going around rather than
over.
Don't forget temperature corrections for true altitude.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
he is talking about a previous trip he took....
--- Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the
> trip? Because I did not get any INFO on you being
> IN.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul D. Franzon
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip
> from KCOD
>
>
> I was also considering a more southerly return
> route, winging through Colorado, or at least down
> the front-range. However, I am not sure if I want
> to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown
> that route several times (including the time I
> picked up my -4) and might not have the time to do
> it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying
> through Lake Powell, between the mesas in monument
> valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note that at this
> time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO,
> and rough thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
>
>
>
> Paul D. Franzon
>
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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>
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from
> KCOD
>
>
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from
> Yellowstone, and considering the Grand Canyon route.
> I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
> I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> the terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever
> flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd get the
> group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might
> see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about
> the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by
> Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx
> cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that
> long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else is
> considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats are in order to three of our SERV members!!! |
I didn't get any pics??
Came from Mike Stewart back when I won Sun 'n Fun Grand Champion. I
typically do NOT answer to it and just go by 'Rick'....nuff said.
Was glad to meet you and your smart looking RV7.....you look good in the
'RV flight'.
You might need to resend the pics.
See you soon.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: tadsargent@bellsouth.net
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of
our SERV members!!!
Rick I sent the photos to you but forgot Rob. Please send them along.
How did you get the name "Schmoozer" anyway.
Stripes
>
> From: "Rick Gray" <rickgray@roadrunner.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 10:47:02 EDT
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of
our SERV members!!!
>
> Congrats to all.....you EARNED it!
>
> Thanks to ALL of you that attended the clinic...we appreciate your
support.
>
> Tad...my email is rickgray@roadunner.com , please send any pics you
have of the 7 ship 'RV flight'. Also, send pics to Rob Logan (photo
ship) at rob@logan.com so he can add them to his website for all to see.
>
> Oh yea....'You Snooze...You Looze'.
>
> Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tadsargent@bellsouth.net
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three
of our SERV members!!!
>
>
>
> Thanks Robbie, It was challenging and fun.
> Tad "Stripes" Sargent
> FFI Wingman
>
> >
> > From: Robbie Walker <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
> > Date: 2007/05/14 Mon AM 07:15:46 EDT
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Congrats are in order to three of
our SERV members!!!
> >
> > Congratulations guys!
> >
> > do not archive
> > On May 13, 2007, at 7:20 PM, James Clark wrote:
> >
> > > "Palmetto Flight" now has two FFI Flight Leads and an
additional
> > > FFI Wingman!!
> > >
> > > This past weekend a bunch of us attended a Formation Clinic in
> > > Parkersburg, WV. This clinic is put on by Stu McCurdy (of
Falcon
> > > Flight ... Texas), Mike Stewart of TeamRV ... Georgia) in
"cahoots'
> > > with the local host Rick Gray (of OhioValleyRVators/Buckey
> > > Flight ... Ohio).
> > >
> > > The clinic is intense and of you have **ANY** thought of
serious
> > > formation flying you MUST attend one of these.
> > >
> > > Ron Schreck and Ken Harrill were able to take the "FFI Flight
Lead"
> > > checkride and they passed.
> > > Tad Sargent was able to take the "FFI Wingman" checkride and
passed.
> > >
> > > Congrats are in order and well deserved!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> > > james@nextupventures.com .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | return home trip from KCOD |
James,
It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10 hours
of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
that will take me at least another year to complete.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Clark
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb of
"giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
(160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
James
On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
> wrote:
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
-Stormy
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
http://forums.matronics.com
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
The AOPA website has some good reading on it.
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to
> return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from California. Had no problem
getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my autopilot fits. On the
updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts and then back to 130 kts
when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had to keep trimming to keep the
autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a real thrill and the fuel flow of
6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap ride. I got tired of chasing the trim
and descended to 15,500 and accepted a mere 60 know tailwind below the mountain
wave. Cappy is right about needing a substantial altitude buffer above the
peaks but you can usually find a low spot along the ridges and approach high
ridge lines at a 45 degree angle so you can "bail out" if you get into a sink.
The terrain function of the GPS really paints a good picture for you and its
easy to pick your way through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest
part of the Rockies. I wouldn't feel comfortable
in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the highest
terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay on the airways.
In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching the clouds.
Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind side and stay
WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges give lots of
free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can easily exceed even
the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time over wildfires and
the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing in a smoke column sucks
but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms
can generate more lift but you really need to stay out of that stuff! Bottom
line... mountain flying is fun if you do some study before you go aloft.
Pretend you are a sailplane and you will have tons of fun. (Am I the only one
who wonders why the altitude record for sailplanes
is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce Bohannon in
his suped up RV-4???)
Enjoy the ride.
Smokey
>
> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 09:41:49 EDT
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> James,
>
> It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
> hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
>
> Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10 hours
> of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
> that will take me at least another year to complete.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
> Clark
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
> And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb of
> "giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
> (160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
> crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
>
> Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
>
> James
>
>
>
> On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
> to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
> would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
> Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> james@nextupventures.com .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Sounds exciting & intimidating at the same time....like many aspects of
flying. Looking forward to it.
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/14/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from California. Had
> no problem getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my autopilot
> fits. On the updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts and then
> back to 130 kts when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had to keep
> trimming to keep the autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a real
> thrill and the fuel flow of 6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap ride. I
> got tired of chasing the trim and descended to 15,500 and accepted a mere 60
> know tailwind below the mountain wave. Cappy is right about needing a
> substantial altitude buffer above the peaks but you can usually find a low
> spot along the ridges and approach high ridge lines at a 45 degree angle so
> you can "bail out" if you get into a sink. The terrain function of the GPS
> really paints a good picture for you and its easy to pick your way
> through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest part of the
> Rockies. I wouldn't feel comfortable
> in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the
> highest terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay
> on the airways. In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching
> the clouds. Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind
> side and stay WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges
> give lots of free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can
> easily exceed even the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time
> over wildfires and the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing
> in a smoke column sucks but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom
> cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms can generate more lift but you really need to
> stay out of that stuff! Bottom line... mountain flying is fun if you do
> some study before you go aloft. Pretend you are a sailplane and you will
> have tons of fun. (Am I the only one who wonders why the altitude record
> for sailplanes
> is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce Bohannon
> in his suped up RV-4???)
>
> Enjoy the ride.
>
> Smokey
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