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1. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Paul D. Franzon)
2. 08:49 AM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (MauleDriver)
3. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
4. 09:08 AM - Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bill Boyd)
5. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
6. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bill Boyd)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
8. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
9. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
10. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
11. 02:15 PM - Race to Ridgeland (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
12. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Steve Glasgow)
13. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
14. 03:43 PM - Re: Race to Ridgeland (Larry Bowen)
15. 04:59 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD ()
16. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
17. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Larry Bowen)
18. 05:51 PM - Mountain Flying (Lenleg@aol.com)
19. 07:29 PM - Re: Mountain Flying (Bill Boyd)
20. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Re: return home trip from KCOD (Bill Boyd)
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| Subject: | return home trip from KCOD |
I was planning to join you.
Thanks,
Paul D. Franzon
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Glasgow
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I did
not get any INFO on you being IN.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon <mailto:paulf@ncsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging through
Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure if I
want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route several
times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the time to
do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake Powell,
between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note that at
this time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough thermals
over AZ,NM and TX.
Paul D. Franzon
Do not archive
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction, so
I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be
crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd
get the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
On the way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about
the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty
leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a
trip without a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way
home from Cody?
-Stormy
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matron
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
If you really want to fly the mountain wave like a sailplane, try
speeding up and allowing some descent thru the down air, slow down and
allow some climb in the up. That is, the opposite of what the autopilot
wants to do. It requires some altitude flexibility but with VFR or the
appropriate clearance, it can be done. That will optimize your energy
expenditure and speed thru the wave. Works with cumulus too. Circling
to climb is for the birds!
Bill "banging rivets on my '10 while dreaming of 10knot lift over the
Sierras" Watson
www.mykitlog.com/Mauledriver
ronschreck@windstream.net wrote:
>
> I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from California. Had no
problem getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my autopilot fits. On the
updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts and then back to 130 kts
when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had to keep trimming to keep
the autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a real thrill and the fuel flow
of 6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap ride. I got tired of chasing the
trim and descended to 15,500 and accepted a mere 60 know tailwind below the mountain
wave. Cappy is right about needing a substantial altitude buffer above
the peaks but you can usually find a low spot along the ridges and approach high
ridge lines at a 45 degree angle so you can "bail out" if you get into a sink.
The terrain function of the GPS really paints a good picture for you and
its easy to pick your way through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest
part of the Rockies. I wouldn't feel comfortable
> in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the highest
terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay on the airways.
In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching the clouds.
Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind side and stay
WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges give lots of
free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can easily exceed
even the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time over wildfires and
the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing in a smoke column sucks
but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms
can generate more lift but you really need to stay out of that stuff!
Bottom line... mountain flying is fun if you do some study before you go aloft.
Pretend you are a sailplane and you will have tons of fun. (Am I the only
one who wonders why the altitude record for sailplanes
> is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce Bohannon in
his suped up RV-4???)
>
> Enjoy the ride.
>
> Smokey
>
>> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
>> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 09:41:49 EDT
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>>
>> James,
>>
>> It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
>> hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
>>
>> Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10 hours
>> of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
>> that will take me at least another year to complete.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
>> Clark
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>>
>>
>> And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb of
>> "giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
>> (160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
>> crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
>>
>> Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
>> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
>> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
>> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
>> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
>> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
>> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
>> to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
>> would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
>> Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>> james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I was doing my damndest to stay out of class A airspace. You are correct, you
can navigate the wave easier if you have an altitude block to work in. I should
have asked for that. I was VFR flight following with ABQ Center and trying
not to look like a yahoo out for a joy ride on the roller coaster.
Smokey
>
> From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue AM 11:49:32 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
> If you really want to fly the mountain wave like a sailplane, try
> speeding up and allowing some descent thru the down air, slow down and
> allow some climb in the up. That is, the opposite of what the autopilot
> wants to do. It requires some altitude flexibility but with VFR or the
> appropriate clearance, it can be done. That will optimize your energy
> expenditure and speed thru the wave. Works with cumulus too. Circling
> to climb is for the birds!
>
> Bill "banging rivets on my '10 while dreaming of 10knot lift over the
> Sierras" Watson
> www.mykitlog.com/Mauledriver
>
> ronschreck@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> > I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from California. Had
no problem getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my autopilot fits. On
the updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts and then back to 130
kts when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had to keep trimming to keep
the autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a real thrill and the fuel flow
of 6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap ride. I got tired of chasing the
trim and descended to 15,500 and accepted a mere 60 know tailwind below the
mountain wave. Cappy is right about needing a substantial altitude buffer above
the peaks but you can usually find a low spot along the ridges and approach
high ridge lines at a 45 degree angle so you can "bail out" if you get into a
sink. The terrain function of the GPS really paints a good picture for you and
its easy to pick your way through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest
part of the Rockies. I wouldn't feel comforta
b!
> le
> > in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the highest
terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay on the
airways. In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching the clouds.
Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind side and
stay WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges give lots
of free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can easily exceed
even the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time over wildfires
and the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing in a smoke column
sucks but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms
can generate more lift but you really need to stay out of that stuff!
Bottom line... mountain flying is fun if you do some study before you go aloft.
Pretend you are a sailplane and you will have tons of fun. (Am I the only
one who wonders why the altitude record for sailpla
n!
> es
> > is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce Bohannon
in his suped up RV-4???)
> >
> > Enjoy the ride.
> >
> > Smokey
> >
> >> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> >> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 09:41:49 EDT
> >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >>
> >> James,
> >>
> >> It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
> >> hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
> >>
> >> Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10 hours
> >> of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
> >> that will take me at least another year to complete.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
> >> Clark
> >> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >>
> >>
> >> And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb of
> >> "giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
> >> (160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
> >> crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
> >>
> >> Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> >> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> >> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> >> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> >> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> >> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> >> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
> >> to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
> >> would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
> >> Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> >>
> >> -Stormy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com
> >>
> >> james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Just purchased a used like-new Aerox system on eBay. Now I get the thrill
of hydrotesting and trying to convince a welding shop to fill it for me.
"Can't, unless you're a licensed physician." they said. Oh, well, I said.
Wait a minute- I think that won't be a problem, and I even have an account
with you for the liquid nitrogen I use in the office...
Now I have to hope they have the suitable adapter for the M tank regulator.
This is more hassle than I thought, but I'm going to be glad I have it along
on the trip, I think.
-Stormy
RVSouthEast-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> If you really want to fly the mountain wave like a sailplane, try
> speeding up and allowing some descent thru the down air, slow down and
> allow some climb in the up. That is, the opposite of what the autopilot
> wants to do. It requires some altitude flexibility but with VFR or the
> appropriate clearance, it can be done. That will optimize your energy
> expenditure and speed thru the wave. Works with cumulus too. Circling
> to climb is for the birds!
>
> Bill "banging rivets on my '10 while dreaming of 10knot lift over the
> Sierras" Watson
> www.mykitlog.com/Mauledriver
>
> ronschreck@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> > I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from
> California. Had no problem getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my
> autopilot fits. On the updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts
> and then back to 130 kts when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had
> to keep trimming to keep the autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a
> real thrill and the fuel flow of 6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap
> ride. I got tired of chasing the trim and descended to 15,500 and accepted
> a mere 60 know tailwind below the mountain wave. Cappy is right about
> needing a substantial altitude buffer above the peaks but you can usually
> find a low spot along the ridges and approach high ridge lines at a 45
> degree angle so you can "bail out" if you get into a sink. The terrain
> function of the GPS really paints a good picture for you and its easy to
> pick your way through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest part
> of the Rockies. I wouldn't feel comfortab!
> le
> > in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the
> highest terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay
> on the airways. In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching
> the clouds. Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind
> side and stay WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges
> give lots of free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can
> easily exceed even the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time
> over wildfires and the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing
> in a smoke column sucks but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom
> cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms can generate more lift but you really need to
> stay out of that stuff! Bottom line... mountain flying is fun if you do
> some study before you go aloft. Pretend you are a sailplane and you will
> have tons of fun. (Am I the only one who wonders why the altitude record
> for sailplan!
> es
> > is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce
> Bohannon in his suped up RV-4???)
> >
> > Enjoy the ride.
> >
> > Smokey
> >
> >> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> >> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 09:41:49 EDT
> >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >>
> >> James,
> >>
> >> It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
> >> hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
> >>
> >> Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10
> hours
> >> of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
> >> that will take me at least another year to complete.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
> >> Clark
> >> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >>
> >>
> >> And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb
> of
> >> "giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
> >> (160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
> >> crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
> >>
> >> Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com
> >
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> >> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain
> flying
> >> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> the
> >> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> >> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> >> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> >> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6
> days
> >> to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
> >> would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
> >> Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> >>
> >> -Stormy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com
> >>
> >> james@nextupventures.com .
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Stormy,
I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen unit when
we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when its time to fill up.
I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the adapter next day.
Smokey
>
> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 12:08:29 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> Just purchased a used like-new Aerox system on eBay. Now I get the thrill
> of hydrotesting and trying to convince a welding shop to fill it for me.
> "Can't, unless you're a licensed physician." they said. Oh, well, I said.
> Wait a minute- I think that won't be a problem, and I even have an account
> with you for the liquid nitrogen I use in the office...
>
> Now I have to hope they have the suitable adapter for the M tank regulator.
> This is more hassle than I thought, but I'm going to be glad I have it along
> on the trip, I think.
>
> -Stormy
>
> >
> > If you really want to fly the mountain wave like a sailplane, try
> > speeding up and allowing some descent thru the down air, slow down and
> > allow some climb in the up. That is, the opposite of what the autopilot
> > wants to do. It requires some altitude flexibility but with VFR or the
> > appropriate clearance, it can be done. That will optimize your energy
> > expenditure and speed thru the wave. Works with cumulus too. Circling
> > to climb is for the birds!
> >
> > Bill "banging rivets on my '10 while dreaming of 10knot lift over the
> > Sierras" Watson
> > www.mykitlog.com/Mauledriver
> >
> > ronschreck@windstream.net wrote:
> > >
> > > I took Miss Izzy to 17,500 last Fall while returning from
> > California. Had no problem getting up there, but the mountain wave gave my
> > autopilot fits. On the updraft the nose lowered and TAS went up to 190 kts
> > and then back to 130 kts when it had to "climb" through the downdraft. Had
> > to keep trimming to keep the autopilot happy. The 78 knot tailwind was a
> > real thrill and the fuel flow of 6 GPH at full throttle made for a cheap
> > ride. I got tired of chasing the trim and descended to 15,500 and accepted
> > a mere 60 know tailwind below the mountain wave. Cappy is right about
> > needing a substantial altitude buffer above the peaks but you can usually
> > find a low spot along the ridges and approach high ridge lines at a 45
> > degree angle so you can "bail out" if you get into a sink. The terrain
> > function of the GPS really paints a good picture for you and its easy to
> > pick your way through. I didn't feel intimidated by even the highest part
> > of the Rockies. I wouldn't feel comfortab!
> > le
> > > in IMC conditions unless I had at least 2000 feet clearance above the
> > highest terrain but any published MEA will give you that buffer. Just stay
> > on the airways. In VMC you can "read" the winds over the ridges by watching
> > the clouds. Avoid the caps and lenticular forms, especially on the downwind
> > side and stay WAY far away from any rotors. The windward side of the ridges
> > give lots of free lift and the leeward side may provide downdrafts that can
> > easily exceed even the RV's climb capability. I have spent a lot of time
> > over wildfires and the smoke tells you even more than the clouds. Climbing
> > in a smoke column sucks but it can provide more lift than any flat bottom
> > cumulus cloud. Thunderstorms can generate more lift but you really need to
> > stay out of that stuff! Bottom line... mountain flying is fun if you do
> > some study before you go aloft. Pretend you are a sailplane and you will
> > have tons of fun. (Am I the only one who wonders why the altitude record
> > for sailplan!
> > es
> > > is a few thousand feet higher than the altitude achieved by Bruce
> > Bohannon in his suped up RV-4???)
> > >
> > > Enjoy the ride.
> > >
> > > Smokey
> > >
> > >> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> > >> Date: 2007/05/14 Mon PM 09:41:49 EDT
> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >>
> > >> James,
> > >>
> > >> It sounds like it might be time to give up on that -6 and the -7 in the
> > >> hanger and build a -9 as they do much better in the thin air. ;)
> > >>
> > >> Of course, I really wouldn't know that 1st hand as I have about 10
> > hours
> > >> of work to finish on my -9 before taking it to the airport. I figure
> > >> that will take me at least another year to complete.
> > >>
> > >> Bill
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
> > >> Clark
> > >> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:14 PM
> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And some of us (with lesser engines and props) start to run out climb
> > of
> > >> "giddy-up" above 10K. I have been to 11,000 with PapaJuliette
> > >> (160HP/Fixed pitch wood) and was up to 10,500 yesterday. Had to ask the
> > >> crew to cut me some slack on the power settings.
> > >>
> > >> Will take a look at the route you mentioned later.
> > >>
> > >> James
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 5/14/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> > >> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain
> > flying
> > >> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> > the
> > >> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
> > >> Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> > >> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> > >> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6
> > days
> > >> to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
> > >> would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
> > >> Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> > >>
> > >> -Stormy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> > >>
> > >> http://forums.matronics.com
> > >>
> > >> james@nextupventures.com .
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Thanks. Are you not going along, or just holding your breath above 12,500?
;-)
On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> Stormy,
>
> I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen unit
> when we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when its time to
> fill up. I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the adapter
> next day.
>
> Smokey
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
In related news, I picked up a pair of pendant style oxymizers and a less
expensive oximeter at
https://www.pulmolab.com/respiratory/oxy_conservers/oxymizers.html
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/15/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks. Are you not going along, or just holding your breath above
> 12,500? ;-)
>
> On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Stormy,
> >
> > I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen
> > unit when we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when its time
> > to fill up. I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the adapter
> > next day.
> >
> > Smokey
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
I think we will stay east of the Rockies. Larry wants to try the unit out before
he buys one. And, that's about 15 pounds more souveneers that Kathy can drag
home!
Smokey
>
> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 12:43:29 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> Thanks. Are you not going along, or just holding your breath above 12,500?
> ;-)
>
> On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Stormy,
> >
> > I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen unit
> > when we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when its time to
> > fill up. I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the adapter
> > next day.
> >
> > Smokey
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Why do all the oximeters cost so much? Are they gold plated?
Smokey
>
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 01:20:43 EDT
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> In related news, I picked up a pair of pendant style oxymizers and a less
> expensive oximeter at
>
> https://www.pulmolab.com/respiratory/oxy_conservers/oxymizers.html
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> On 5/15/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. Are you not going along, or just holding your breath above
> > 12,500? ;-)
> >
> > On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Stormy,
> > >
> > > I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen
> > > unit when we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when its time
> > > to fill up. I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the adapter
> > > next day.
> > >
> > > Smokey
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Not sure. Small market for them? Mine was made is Israel. Import taxes?
O2 = 97%, 72 BPM.
:)
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> Why do all the oximeters cost so much? Are they gold plated?
>
> Smokey
> >
> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 01:20:43 EDT
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> > In related news, I picked up a pair of pendant style oxymizers and a
> less
> > expensive oximeter at
> >
> > https://www.pulmolab.com/respiratory/oxy_conservers/oxymizers.html
> >
> > --
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > On 5/15/07, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks. Are you not going along, or just holding your breath above
> > > 12,500? ;-)
> > >
> > > On 5/15/07, ronschreck@windstream.net <ronschreck@windstream.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stormy,
> > > >
> > > > I have the adapter. I think Larry Bowen will be borrowing my oxygen
> > > > unit when we go to Yellowstone, so you can borrow the adapter when
> its time
> > > > to fill up. I called the folks at Precise Flight and they sent the
> adapter
> > > > next day.
> > > >
> > > > Smokey
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Race to Ridgeland |
Guys: Just wanted to update everyone on the Race to Ridgeland held
successfully last weekend (but without the services of the world famous
SERV formation team)----it was good but just not the same without you!!
We did have a good time for sure and some ex-military guys in three
Nanchings did their best to emulate your photo award winning effort at Sun
and Fun, but you know? They just hadn't practiced enough. Actually, they
hadn't practiced at all, but what the heck.
Great time was had by all without you but I don't want to take any chances
for next year. I'm declaring right now for 3 May, 2008. Larry, would you
put us on your calendar and James (or whomever decides these things) please
consider an appearance by the group at the Race to Ridgeland on that
Saturday next year. Maybe I can even fly photo ship by then in "Big Blue".
I sure hope so, anyway. Would love to have Kahuna's crowd too.
James: If you get a chance, please drop me a line. Perhaps we can
coordinate a little on this. I hope to see you guys a lot more next year
when my Rocket should be flying.
Lee...
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Paul, please call me ASAP
Steve Glasgow-Cappy
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005 Home
704-281-7884 Cell
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
I was planning to join you.
Thanks,
Paul D. Franzon
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Glasgow
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I
did not get any INFO on you being IN.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging
through Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not
sure if I want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that
route several times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not
have the time to do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying
through Lake Powell, between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a
lot of fun. Note that at this time of year, you will have daily
T-storms over CO, and rough thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
Paul D. Franzon
Do not archive
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Boyd
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)!
Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I
would, however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two.
Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
-Stormy
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m
atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.co
m">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Yellowstone attendees.
I have called Jackson Hole 92nm from Cody and found a raft company that would pick
up up from a nearby hotel/B&B and take us to the Snake River for a 3 hour
tour, a three hour tour.
Yes I know I wrote that twice but the parallel to Gilligans Island ran through
my head. Anyway, for $45 each I am throwing this up. I have not made reservations
yet as I am taking indications of interest.
The Alpine Lodge is nearby and the Jackson Hole rafting company takes groups at
10:00am and 3:00pm with pickup and deliver for no extra cost at the hotels.
Terry thinks this is a great idea, nuff said.
Tad "Stripes" Sargent
>
> From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 05:58:23 EDT
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
> Paul, please call me ASAP
>
> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005 Home
> 704-281-7884 Cell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul D. Franzon
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
> Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
> I was planning to join you.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Paul D. Franzon
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
>
> Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I did not
get any INFO on you being IN.
>
>
>
> Cappy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Paul D. Franzon
>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
>
> I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging through Colorado,
or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure if I want to
go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route several times (including
the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the time to do it this time.
Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake Powell, between the mesas
in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note that at this time of year,
you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
>
>
>
> Paul D. Franzon
>
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
>
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction,
so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be crossing
is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd get the
group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the
way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about the trip
as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if
the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a trip without
a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Race to Ridgeland |
I'm working on a re-do of the SERV webpage. I'll include it there......
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/15/07, lee.logan@gulfstream.com <lee.logan@gulfstream.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Guys: Just wanted to update everyone on the Race to Ridgeland held
> successfully last weekend (but without the services of the world famous
> SERV formation team)----it was good but just not the same without you!!
> We did have a good time for sure and some ex-military guys in three
> Nanchings did their best to emulate your photo award winning effort at Sun
> and Fun, but you know? They just hadn't practiced enough. Actually, they
> hadn't practiced at all, but what the heck.
>
> Great time was had by all without you but I don't want to take any chances
> for next year. I'm declaring right now for 3 May, 2008. Larry, would
> you
> put us on your calendar and James (or whomever decides these things)
> please
> consider an appearance by the group at the Race to Ridgeland on that
> Saturday next year. Maybe I can even fly photo ship by then in "Big
> Blue".
> I sure hope so, anyway. Would love to have Kahuna's crowd too.
>
> James: If you get a chance, please drop me a line. Perhaps we can
> coordinate a little on this. I hope to see you guys a lot more next year
> when my Rocket should be flying.
>
> Lee...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Smokey and Kathy are in. I'll bring the cigars.
>
> From: <tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 06:09:23 EDT
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
>
>
> Yellowstone attendees.
>
> I have called Jackson Hole 92nm from Cody and found a raft company that would
pick up up from a nearby hotel/B&B and take us to the Snake River for a 3 hour
tour, a three hour tour.
>
> Yes I know I wrote that twice but the parallel to Gilligans Island ran through
my head. Anyway, for $45 each I am throwing this up. I have not made reservations
yet as I am taking indications of interest.
>
> The Alpine Lodge is nearby and the Jackson Hole rafting company takes groups
at 10:00am and 3:00pm with pickup and deliver for no extra cost at the hotels.
Terry thinks this is a great idea, nuff said.
>
> Tad "Stripes" Sargent
>
> >
> > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 05:58:23 EDT
> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> > Paul, please call me ASAP
> >
> > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> > N123SG RV-8
> > Cappy's Toy
> > 704-362-0005 Home
> > 704-281-7884 Cell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> > I was planning to join you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I did
not get any INFO on you being IN.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cappy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Paul D. Franzon
> >
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging through Colorado,
or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure if I want to
go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route several times (including
the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the time to do it this time.
Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake Powell, between the mesas
in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note that at this time of year,
you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> >
> >
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and considering
the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying instruction,
so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the terrain I'd be crossing
is higher than I've ever flown the RV (11,500)! Just thought I'd get
the group's reaction to a proposed route like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the
way home we might see the Ozarks or something. One nice thing about the trip
as planned is it allows 6 days to return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely
if the wx cooperates. I would, however, hate to make that long a trip without
a wingman or two. Who else is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
That idea has potential! You were thinking on the way home? So spend
Sunday night there?
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/15/07, tadsargent@bellsouth.net <tadsargent@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> Yellowstone attendees.
>
> I have called Jackson Hole 92nm from Cody and found a raft company that
> would pick up up from a nearby hotel/B&B and take us to the Snake River for
> a 3 hour tour, a three hour tour.
>
> Yes I know I wrote that twice but the parallel to Gilligans Island ran
> through my head. Anyway, for $45 each I am throwing this up. I have not
> made reservations yet as I am taking indications of interest.
>
> The Alpine Lodge is nearby and the Jackson Hole rafting company takes
> groups at 10:00am and 3:00pm with pickup and deliver for no extra cost at
> the hotels. Terry thinks this is a great idea, nuff said.
>
> Tad "Stripes" Sargent
>
> >
> > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 05:58:23 EDT
> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> > Paul, please call me ASAP
> >
> > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> > N123SG RV-8
> > Cappy's Toy
> > 704-362-0005 Home
> > 704-281-7884 Cell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> > I was planning to join you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because I
> did not get any INFO on you being IN.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cappy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Paul D. Franzon
> >
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging
> through Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure
> if I want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route
> several times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the
> time to do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake
> Powell, between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note
> that at this time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough
> thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> >
> >
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> >
> >
> >
> > Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> (11,500)! Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route
> like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to
> return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref="
> http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Obviously I'm screwed up on my days. Please clarify which day(s) you are
thinking of spending where.......
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 5/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>
> That idea has potential! You were thinking on the way home? So spend
> Sunday night there?
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> On 5/15/07, tadsargent@bellsouth.net <tadsargent@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yellowstone attendees.
> >
> > I have called Jackson Hole 92nm from Cody and found a raft company that
> > would pick up up from a nearby hotel/B&B and take us to the Snake River for
> > a 3 hour tour, a three hour tour.
> >
> > Yes I know I wrote that twice but the parallel to Gilligans Island ran
> > through my head. Anyway, for $45 each I am throwing this up. I have not
> > made reservations yet as I am taking indications of interest.
> >
> > The Alpine Lodge is nearby and the Jackson Hole rafting company takes
> > groups at 10:00am and 3:00pm with pickup and deliver for no extra cost at
> > the hotels. Terry thinks this is a great idea, nuff said.
> >
> > Tad "Stripes" Sargent
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > > Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 05:58:23 EDT
> > > To: < rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >
> > > Paul, please call me ASAP
> > >
> > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> > > N123SG RV-8
> > > Cappy's Toy
> > > 704-362-0005 Home
> > > 704-281-7884 Cell
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
> > > Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >
> > >
> > > I was planning to join you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul D. Franzon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> > owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the trip? Because
> > I did not get any INFO on you being IN.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cappy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > >
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > >
> > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging
> > through Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure
> > if I want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route
> > several times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the
> > time to do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake
> > Powell, between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note
> > that at this time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough
> > thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul D. Franzon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> > considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> > instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> > terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> > (11,500)! Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route
> > like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> > something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to
> > return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> > however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> > is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> > >
> > > -Stormy
> > >
> > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref
> > "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Stormy:
Put the book in the mail to you today.
Len
In a message dated 5/14/2007 6:03:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bfilipiak@yahoo.com writes:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Bart Filipiak <bfilipiak@yahoo.com>
If you're not opposed to one on one instruction,
Speedbird Aviation at KMRN did a mountain flying
seminar about a year ago, they would probably be
willing to run that by you for a small fee.
828-757-0099
I did it and feel quite a bit better about Mountain
Flying. You can run your proposed route by them as
well. Couldn't hurt.
(P.S. I don't know where you are, that may be out of
range. BUT: EAA 731 is hosting a Fly-In at Hickory
Regional KHKY with NO RAMP FEES this Saturday 0800 -
1600 EDT. The guys from Speedbird will be there as
well. If you are interested and choose to do so, hunt
me down and I'll introduce you.)
Sounds like a good trip! Good luck!
Bart
--- Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from
> Yellowstone, and considering
> the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some
> mountain flying instruction, so
> I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> the terrain I'd be
> crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> (11,500)! Just thought I'd
> get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
> On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> something. One nice thing about
> the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by
> Sunday. That's plenty
> leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however,
> hate to make that long a
> trip without a wingman or two. Who else is
> considering the southerly way
> home from Cody?
>
> -Stormy
>
http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
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| Subject: | Re: Mountain Flying |
Thanks a bunch, Len. You da man.
-BB
tormy:
>
> Put the book in the mail to you today.
>
> Len
>
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2007 6:03:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bfilipiak@yahoo.com writes:
>
> >
>
> If you're not opposed to one on one instruction,
> Speedbird Aviation at KMRN did a mountain flying
> seminar about a year ago, they would probably be
> willing to run that by you for a small fee.
>
> 828-757-0099
>
>
> I did it and feel quite a bit better about Mountain
> Flying. You can run your proposed route by them as
> well. Couldn't hurt.
>
> (P.S. I don't know where you are, that may be out of
> range. BUT: EAA 731 is hosting a Fly-In at Hickory
> Regional KHKY with NO RAMP FEES this Saturday 0800 -
> 1600 EDT. The guys from Speedbird will be there as
> well. If you are interested and choose to do so, hunt
> me down and I'll introduce you.)
>
> Sounds like a good trip! Good luck!
>
> Bart
>
>
> --- Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from
> > Yellowstone, and considering
> > the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some
> > mountain flying instruction, so
> > I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of
> > the terrain I'd be
> > crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> > (11,500)! Just thought I'd
> > get the group's reaction to a proposed route like:
> > KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.
> > On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> > something. One nice thing about
> > the trip as planned is it allows 6 days to return by
> > Sunday. That's plenty
> > leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would, however,
> > hate to make that long a
> > trip without a wingman or two. Who else is
> > considering the southerly way
> > home from Cody?
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: return home trip from KCOD |
Stormy and the Mzungu-bride would be up for that - yes, sir!
Count us in if you go forward with it.
-Bill B
BTW, "mzungu" = swahili for "crazy white person" a moniker she picked up in
Rwanda this past March.
On 5/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>
> Obviously I'm screwed up on my days. Please clarify which day(s) you are
> thinking of spending where.......
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> On 5/15/07, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
> >
> > That idea has potential! You were thinking on the way home? So spend
> > Sunday night there?
> >
> > --
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > On 5/15/07, tadsargent@bellsouth.net <tadsargent@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Yellowstone attendees.
> > >
> > > I have called Jackson Hole 92nm from Cody and found a raft company
> > > that would pick up up from a nearby hotel/B&B and take us to the Snake River
> > > for a 3 hour tour, a three hour tour.
> > >
> > > Yes I know I wrote that twice but the parallel to Gilligans Island ran
> > > through my head. Anyway, for $45 each I am throwing this up. I have not
> > > made reservations yet as I am taking indications of interest.
> > >
> > > The Alpine Lodge is nearby and the Jackson Hole rafting company takes
> > > groups at 10:00am and 3:00pm with pickup and deliver for no extra cost at
> > > the hotels. Terry thinks this is a great idea, nuff said.
> > >
> > > Tad "Stripes" Sargent
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > > > Date: 2007/05/15 Tue PM 05:58:23 EDT
> > > > To: < rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > > >
> > > > Paul, please call me ASAP
> > > >
> > > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> > > > N123SG RV-8
> > > > Cappy's Toy
> > > > 704-362-0005 Home
> > > > 704-281-7884 Cell
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:26 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was planning to join you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul D. Franzon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > > ] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:26 PM
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul are you planning on going to Yellowstone on the
> > > trip? Because I did not get any INFO on you being IN.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cappy
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: Paul D. Franzon
> > > >
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was also considering a more southerly return route, winging
> > > through Colorado, or at least down the front-range. However, I am not sure
> > > if I want to go as far West as the Grand Canyon. I've flown that route
> > > several times (including the time I picked up my -4) and might not have the
> > > time to do it this time. Howvever, I will admit that flying through Lake
> > > Powell, between the mesas in monument valley and NM is a lot of fun. Note
> > > that at this time of year, you will have daily T-storms over CO, and rough
> > > thermals over AZ,NM and TX.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul D. Franzon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do not archive
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com ]
> > > On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:22 PM
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: return home trip from KCOD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cappy- thinking about the return leg home from Yellowstone, and
> > > considering the Grand Canyon route. I guess I need some mountain flying
> > > instruction, so I'll hunt a DVD or good book on this topic. Some of the
> > > terrain I'd be crossing is higher than I've ever flown the RV
> > > (11,500)! Just thought I'd get the group's reaction to a proposed route
> > > like: KCOD;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA. On the way home we might see the Ozarks or
> > > something. One nice thing about the trip as planned is it allows 6 days
to
> > > return by Sunday. That's plenty leisurely if the wx cooperates. I would,
> > > however, hate to make that long a trip without a wingman or two. Who else
> > > is considering the southerly way home from Cody?
> > > >
> > > > -Stormy
> > > >
> > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-Listhref
> > > "http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com
> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >
> >
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