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1. 12:12 PM - Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos (Larry Bowen)
2. 12:32 PM - Re: Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos (Ed Anderson)
3. 01:13 PM - Re: Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos (Steve Glasgow)
4. 07:05 PM - Re: Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos (John S Cargill)
5. 07:36 PM - East Coast to Yellowstone! (Larry Bowen)
6. 10:07 PM - Re: Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos (Bill Repucci)
7. 10:07 PM - Re: East Coast to Yellowstone! (Bill Repucci)
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| Subject: | Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos |
Yeeouch. First picture looked like he was doing everything right....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary A. Sobek <gary@rvdar.com>
The RV Hotline http://www.expercraft.com/hotline/current was in my
eMail box this morning. There is a story in it about a UK RV-7A that
had photos taken WHILE it was NOSING OVER. There were no injuries
reported in the story.
A link to the story.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412
Here are the photos taken while it was flipping.
http://www.airteamimages.com/49328.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49330.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49331.html
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos |
Don't know if anything to it, but back in 1998 when I replaced my nose
gear for a beefier one offered by Van's after several nose gears had
failed, I did not put the wooden stiffener strips on it as that was
supposedly no longer needed. However, I noticed right after landing and
during high speed taxi that there was a sensation as if the nose wheel
was tucking back and then pulling forward. I did not like the sensation
so I put wooden stiffeners back on the nose gear.
Years later I had the learning lesson of flying with a new much larger
prop. I neglected to go to altitude to determine its affect on rate of
sink, etc. To make a long story short, when landing long I pulled the
throttle all the way back to the stops and immediately lost 10-15 mph
airspeed and dropped out of the air from 10-12 feet. I only had time to
get the stick back into my stomach before (fortunately) hitting on the
two main gear, bounced into the air for another 4-6 feet this time
dragging the rudder fairings (yes, still had the stick tucked back to my
backbone), and eventually came to a stop (right side up and on the
runway at Goosecreek).
Bent both main gear and had to replace the rudder eyebolt bearings as
well as do a bit of fiberglass work on the rudder bottom fairing - but
fortunately the nose never tucked under which would have surely had me
doing the infamous RV-6A nose-spinner pole vault. When I examined the
nose gear, I found the two wooden stiffeners I had fiberglassed to the
gear had both broken. I am convinced that had I not had the stiffeners
that the ending would not have been as happy.
Just my opinion, since I had no desire to collect additional data on the
phenomena to verify my theory{:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
Yeeouch. First picture looked like he was doing everything right....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary A. Sobek <gary@rvdar.com>
To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com
The RV Hotline http://www.expercraft.com/hotline/current was in my
eMail box this morning. There is a story in it about a UK RV-7A that
had photos taken WHILE it was NOSING OVER. There were no injuries
reported in the story.
A link to the story.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412
Here are the photos taken while it was flipping.
http://www.airteamimages.com/49328.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49330.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49331.html
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos |
Maybe he hit a rabbit?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
Don't know if anything to it, but back in 1998 when I replaced my nose
gear for a beefier one offered by Van's after several nose gears had
failed, I did not put the wooden stiffener strips on it as that was
supposedly no longer needed. However, I noticed right after landing and
during high speed taxi that there was a sensation as if the nose wheel
was tucking back and then pulling forward. I did not like the sensation
so I put wooden stiffeners back on the nose gear.
Years later I had the learning lesson of flying with a new much larger
prop. I neglected to go to altitude to determine its affect on rate of
sink, etc. To make a long story short, when landing long I pulled the
throttle all the way back to the stops and immediately lost 10-15 mph
airspeed and dropped out of the air from 10-12 feet. I only had time to
get the stick back into my stomach before (fortunately) hitting on the
two main gear, bounced into the air for another 4-6 feet this time
dragging the rudder fairings (yes, still had the stick tucked back to my
backbone), and eventually came to a stop (right side up and on the
runway at Goosecreek).
Bent both main gear and had to replace the rudder eyebolt bearings as
well as do a bit of fiberglass work on the rudder bottom fairing - but
fortunately the nose never tucked under which would have surely had me
doing the infamous RV-6A nose-spinner pole vault. When I examined the
nose gear, I found the two wooden stiffeners I had fiberglassed to the
gear had both broken. I am convinced that had I not had the stiffeners
that the ending would not have been as happy.
Just my opinion, since I had no desire to collect additional data on
the phenomena to verify my theory{:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
Yeeouch. First picture looked like he was doing everything
right....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary A. Sobek <gary@rvdar.com>
To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com
The RV Hotline http://www.expercraft.com/hotline/current was in my
eMail box this morning. There is a story in it about a UK RV-7A
that
had photos taken WHILE it was NOSING OVER. There were no injuries
reported in the story.
A link to the story.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412
Here are the photos taken while it was flipping.
http://www.airteamimages.com/49328.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49330.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49331.html
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m
atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos |
In the photos where is the nose wheel pant?
Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote: Maybe he hit a rabbit?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos
Don't know if anything to it, but back in 1998 when I replaced my nose gear for
a beefier one offered by Van's after several nose gears had failed, I did not
put the wooden stiffener strips on it as that was supposedly no longer needed.
However, I noticed right after landing and during high speed taxi that there
was a sensation as if the nose wheel was tucking back and then pulling forward.
I did not like the sensation so I put wooden stiffeners back on the nose
gear.
Years later I had the learning lesson of flying with a new much larger prop.
I neglected to go to altitude to determine its affect on rate of sink, etc.
To make a long story short, when landing long I pulled the throttle all the way
back to the stops and immediately lost 10-15 mph airspeed and dropped out of
the air from 10-12 feet. I only had time to get the stick back into my stomach
before (fortunately) hitting on the two main gear, bounced into the air for
another 4-6 feet this time dragging the rudder fairings (yes, still had the stick
tucked back to my backbone), and eventually came to a stop (right side up
and on the runway at Goosecreek).
Bent both main gear and had to replace the rudder eyebolt bearings as well as
do a bit of fiberglass work on the rudder bottom fairing - but fortunately the
nose never tucked under which would have surely had me doing the infamous RV-6A
nose-spinner pole vault. When I examined the nose gear, I found the two wooden
stiffeners I had fiberglassed to the gear had both broken. I am convinced
that had I not had the stiffeners that the ending would not have been as happy.
Just my opinion, since I had no desire to collect additional data on the phenomena
to verify my theory{:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos
Yeeouch. First picture looked like he was doing everything right....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary A. Sobek <gary@rvdar.com>
The RV Hotline http://www.expercraft.com/hotline/current was in my
eMail box this morning. There is a story in it about a UK RV-7A that
had photos taken WHILE it was NOSING OVER. There were no injuries
reported in the story.
A link to the story.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412
Here are the photos taken while it was flipping.
http://www.airteamimages.com/49328.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49330.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49331.html
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
John S Cargill
919 605 8222
Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True
www.2bumsaircraft.com
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| Subject: | East Coast to Yellowstone! |
Several RV's from the east coast went to Cody, WY last week to check out
Yellowstone. What an adventure! For me, it ranks right up there with the
first flight as far as accomplishments go! Notes, pics and video here:
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/2007/06/yellowstone_200.html
Enjoy.
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over photos |
The original thread mentions that he had removed the nose wheel pant
prior to the flight, for reasons unknown.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John S
Cargill
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
In the photos where is the nose wheel pant?
Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Maybe he hit a rabbit?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson <mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
Don't know if anything to it, but back in 1998 when I replaced my nose
gear for a beefier one offered by Van's after several nose gears had
failed, I did not put the wooden stiffener strips on it as that was
supposedly no longer needed. However, I noticed right after landing and
during high speed taxi that there was a sensation as if the nose wheel
was tucking back and then pulling forward. I did not like the sensation
so I put wooden stiffeners back on the nose gear.
Years later I had the learning lesson of flying with a new much larger
prop. I neglected to go to altitude to determine its affect on rate of
sink, etc. To make a long story short, when landing long I pulled the
throttle all the way back to the stops and immediately lost 10-15 mph
airspeed and dropped out of the air from 10-12 feet. I only had time to
get the stick back into my stomach before (fortunately) hitting on the
two main gear, bounced into the air for another 4-6 feet this time
dragging the rudder fairings (yes, still had the stick tucked back to my
backbone), and eventually came to a stop (right side up and on the
runway at Goosecreek).
Bent both main gear and had to replace the rudder eyebolt bearings as
well as do a bit of fiberglass work on the rudder bottom fairing - but
fortunately the nose never tucked under which would have surely had me
doing the infamous RV-6A nose-spinner pole vault. When I examined the
nose gear, I found the two wooden stiffeners I had fiberglassed to the
gear had both broken. I am convinced that had I not had the stiffeners
that the ending would not have been as happy.
Just my opinion, since I had no desire to collect additional data on the
phenomena to verify my theory{:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry <mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com> Bowen
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [SoCAL-RVlist] RV-7A flipping over
photos
Yeeouch. First picture looked like he was doing everything right....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary A. Sobek <gary@rvdar.com>
The RV Hotline http://www.expercraft.com/hotline/current was in my
eMail box this morning. There is a story in it about a UK RV-7A that
had photos taken WHILE it was NOSING OVER. There were no injuries
reported in the story.
A link to the story.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412
<http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=279412>
Here are the photos taken while it was flipping.
http://www.airteamimages.com/49328.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html
<http://www.airteamimages.com/49329.html>
http://www.airteamimages.com/49330.html
http://www.airteamimages.com/49331.html
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.ma
tronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | East Coast to Yellowstone! |
Larry,
Great pictures! We hope to join you next year. Possibly on the way to
AK.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:36 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: East Coast to Yellowstone!
Several RV's from the east coast went to Cody, WY last week to check out
Yellowstone. What an adventure! For me, it ranks right up there with
the first flight as far as accomplishments go! Notes, pics and video
here:
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/2007/06/yellowstone_200.html
Enjoy.
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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