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1. 11:00 AM - Back from OSH (Airventure) ...original post did not go through (James Clark)
2. 01:35 PM - Re: Back from OSH (Airventure) ...original post did not go through (Larry Bowen)
3. 03:45 PM - Re: Back from OSH (Airventure) ...original post did not go through (Ron Schreck)
4. 05:09 PM - N941WR flies! (Bill Repucci)
5. 06:20 PM - Re: N941WR flies! (Ed Anderson)
6. 06:36 PM - Re: N941WR flies! (Larry Bowen)
7. 06:45 PM - Re: N941WR flies! (Bart Filipiak)
8. 08:06 PM - Re: N941WR flies! (Ron Schreck)
9. 08:16 PM - Re: N941WR flies! (James Clark)
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go through
SERV members, I posted this to the OhioValleyRVators under the subject ...
"Nice guy, that Rick Gray ... (or my long trip home from OSH)"
It was going to be a short version with the longer version posted here.
Well, it kind of just grew, and I dare not make it any longer so here is my
"story". Go get a cup of coffee. :-)
James
p.s. "Smokey", I was wondering for a while if I you would beat me home
again!! :-)
=========================================================
You guys in the Ohio Valley already know this and I have known it for some
time but I figured I would say it here for the record.
"Nice guy, that Rick Gray, he is."
Here's the story (was going to be short form but as usual, I got long winded
:-) ) .....
Some time after Rick got the word from the EAA people that it might be a
good idea for him to be around for the award ceremonies, he and I were
chatting. He was deciding whether to go home or not. I mentioned that **IF**
he decided to go back on Sunday, maybe we could fly back to KPKB together. I
would then proceed from there to KCAE (Columbia, SC). Since we fly formation
quite a bit it always feels better to me when I am with or as "wingman". He
says OK.
Sunday morning comes and we depart together (well, that 540-based RV10
"launches" and I try to catch up, even with Rick "complaining" that he is at
"IDLE". :-) A nice flight along the Chicago coast line and over to KPHD to
drop off a passenger (Terry). Along the way, (after Chicago) as we were
climbing for better viz, I started not feeling 100% and told Rick to go on
and I would get there. I HAD to get lower for a better view of the ground.
He would hear nothing of it. So not only is he throttled back in that 540 to
slow down to my little 320 speeds (160 kts true) but he is down in the haze,
gunk and bumps so as not to leave me there all alone!
We get to KPHD and gas up. Only 20 minutes from Rick being home. We take off
and I am not 100% and the viz is not great and I look at the 496 and
**YIKES**, looks like a storm is near KPKB. "Buckeye Lead, "2" cannot handle
this. Not feeling good. Storm somewhere along the route. Going back to land
at KPHD. You go on home." Nope! Nothing doing. He turns around and "leads"
me back to KPHD to land! Now by the time we get there, get the planes shut
down and check the weather again, the cell that I saw is approaching KPKB.
So there he sits with me for 4 hours or so. Missed the window to get home to
wife and kids to make sure I was OK.
I decide to check in to a hotel for the night and when the weather passes,
Rick goes on home later that evening.
Next morning, while I am out on the ramp, Terry stops by and gets on my case
for not calling, given that I ended up staying overnight in his town. Nice
people these airplane people. I tell him if I am in his area again, I will
call.
Well, I take off, and barely get out of the pattern. Weather absolutely
lousy, unfamiliar territory and me not 100%, I turn around again and land.
I call Terry and he offers me one of his cars and after we do lunch, I check
into the hotel, AGAIN.
Once again, the next morning I head out to try to make it home. I call Rick
and tell him the story. He says if I can make it to KPKB and wish to stop,
we can do breakfast. And if I cannot make it any further, I always have a
place to stay. I say thanks but I hope to make it on home as it *looks* like
all might be OK.
Off I go. I fly right over KPKB enroute to KCAE. At 6500 it is hazy from the
early fog and stuff, along with the sun's glare but I can kinda make it OK.
I keep saying ... if it gets no worse than this, I am OK to cross the
"mountains". Well, what was probably 8 miles and haze when I started, soon
became a lot less as the day wore on and the elevation and temperature began
to rise. I started climbing higher but the higher I climbed, the worse it
seemed to get!!! Next thing I know, I am telling Indy Center that I am
turning around for Parkerburg!
I safely land at KPKB, to be met by Ty (RV7A builder) and not more than 5
minutes later, up pulls Rick and the kids about to go for breakfast in his
beautiful Oshkosh Award Winning RV10. He has a look of surprise (concern??)
on his face as I had told him that I was NOT stopping ... that I was going
on home. So of course I have to explain. And what does he do? Insist that I
do NOT get a hotel. That I DO come to his place if I don't leave KPKB and
that I stay there "as long as it takes" for me to get good enough health and
weather to get home! And I did just that.
Rick and his family have been accommodating before. This is just the way
they are. I got up the next morning with a lot more rest and feeling a lot
better. I was able to tackle the weather situation with a lot greater safety
margin and a lot of credit goes to Rick.
As Rick would say ..."Thanks buddy!"
James ... FINALLY back home
RV6 "PapaJuliette"
p.s. About half way across the "mountains" the viz deteriorated and buildups
increased to the point where I told Atlanta Center that I was turning around
and landing at the nearest airport (had been keeping close tabs on "my way
out". I landed at Mountain Empire, got lunch, waited for the viz to imporve
and launched just in time to get home and get just a few drops of the
afternoon thunderboomers. Even though I am instrument rated and the plane
has the "equipment", I am a REAL WIMP when it comes to this kind of weather
... especially when there is cumulous-granitous around as well. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Back from OSH (Airventure) ...original post did |
not go through
Nothing unusual about this OSH report:
Challenging weather - CHECK.
Incredibly generous pilots help along the way - CHECK.
Finally home, ragged & behind schedule - CHECK.
Can't wait until next year to do it again - CHECK.
I had similar battles with the weather. That's the price I paid for great
weather going up. :)
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 8/5/07, James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> SERV members, I posted this to the OhioValleyRVators under the subject ...
>
> "Nice guy, that Rick Gray ... (or my long trip home from OSH)"
>
> It was going to be a short version with the longer version posted here.
> Well, it kind of just grew, and I dare not make it any longer so here is my
> "story". Go get a cup of coffee. :-)
>
> James
> p.s. "Smokey", I was wondering for a while if I you would beat me home
> again!! :-)
>
> =========================================================
>
> You guys in the Ohio Valley already know this and I have known it for some
> time but I figured I would say it here for the record.
>
> "Nice guy, that Rick Gray, he is."
>
[SNIP]
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James,
What an ordeal. You handled it well and with the kind support of Rick
and all, it sounds like you might have even had some fun. Did you get a
ride in the RV-10?
I'm getting a taste of nasty flying conditions here, but its not clouds,
it's smoke. I was 4000 feet above the fire this morning and was on
instruments. Couldn't see the ground most of the way around the fire
and only knew that I was over the fire edge when I felt it pushing me
up. Just enough visibility to get a few helicopters in with buckets and
we had to keep them separated as they were unable to see much except the
ground underneath them. The Flathead valley (Kalispell, MT) is socked
in most of the time now, but the tower keeps calling 3 miles visibility
even though we can't see the runway from a close downwind. (They know
if it goes IFR we will stop fighting the fire from the air.)
I'll be coming home on Aug 12th, so hope we can get the gang together
for a few formation practices before I have to come back to the fires.
Glad you are home, safe.
Smokey
----- Original Message -----
From: James Clark
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Back from OSH (Airventure) ...original post
did not go through
SERV members, I posted this to the OhioValleyRVators under the subject
...
"Nice guy, that Rick Gray ... (or my long trip home from OSH)"
It was going to be a short version with the longer version posted
here. Well, it kind of just grew, and I dare not make it any longer so
here is my "story". Go get a cup of coffee. :-)
James
p.s. "Smokey", I was wondering for a while if I you would beat me home
again!! :-)
====
==
You guys in the Ohio Valley already know this and I have known it for
some time but I figured I would say it here for the record.
"Nice guy, that Rick Gray, he is."
Here's the story (was going to be short form but as usual, I got long
winded :-) ) .....
Some time after Rick got the word from the EAA people that it might be
a good idea for him to be around for the award ceremonies, he and I were
chatting. He was deciding whether to go home or not. I mentioned that
**IF** he decided to go back on Sunday, maybe we could fly back to KPKB
together. I would then proceed from there to KCAE (Columbia, SC). Since
we fly formation quite a bit it always feels better to me when I am with
or as "wingman". He says OK.
Sunday morning comes and we depart together (well, that 540-based RV10
"launches" and I try to catch up, even with Rick "complaining" that he
is at "IDLE". :-) A nice flight along the Chicago coast line and over
to KPHD to drop off a passenger (Terry). Along the way, (after Chicago)
as we were climbing for better viz, I started not feeling 100% and told
Rick to go on and I would get there. I HAD to get lower for a better
view of the ground. He would hear nothing of it. So not only is he
throttled back in that 540 to slow down to my little 320 speeds (160 kts
true) but he is down in the haze, gunk and bumps so as not to leave me
there all alone!
We get to KPHD and gas up. Only 20 minutes from Rick being home. We
take off and I am not 100% and the viz is not great and I look at the
496 and **YIKES**, looks like a storm is near KPKB. "Buckeye Lead, "2"
cannot handle this. Not feeling good. Storm somewhere along the route.
Going back to land at KPHD. You go on home." Nope! Nothing doing. He
turns around and "leads" me back to KPHD to land! Now by the time we get
there, get the planes shut down and check the weather again, the cell
that I saw is approaching KPKB. So there he sits with me for 4 hours or
so. Missed the window to get home to wife and kids to make sure I was
OK.
I decide to check in to a hotel for the night and when the weather
passes, Rick goes on home later that evening.
Next morning, while I am out on the ramp, Terry stops by and gets on
my case for not calling, given that I ended up staying overnight in his
town. Nice people these airplane people. I tell him if I am in his area
again, I will call.
Well, I take off, and barely get out of the pattern. Weather
absolutely lousy, unfamiliar territory and me not 100%, I turn around
again and land. I call Terry and he offers me one of his cars and after
we do lunch, I check into the hotel, AGAIN.
Once again, the next morning I head out to try to make it home. I call
Rick and tell him the story. He says if I can make it to KPKB and wish
to stop, we can do breakfast. And if I cannot make it any further, I
always have a place to stay. I say thanks but I hope to make it on home
as it *looks* like all might be OK.
Off I go. I fly right over KPKB enroute to KCAE. At 6500 it is hazy
from the early fog and stuff, along with the sun's glare but I can kinda
make it OK. I keep saying ... if it gets no worse than this, I am OK to
cross the "mountains". Well, what was probably 8 miles and haze when I
started, soon became a lot less as the day wore on and the elevation and
temperature began to rise. I started climbing higher but the higher I
climbed, the worse it seemed to get!!! Next thing I know, I am telling
Indy Center that I am turning around for Parkerburg!
I safely land at KPKB, to be met by Ty (RV7A builder) and not more
than 5 minutes later, up pulls Rick and the kids about to go for
breakfast in his beautiful Oshkosh Award Winning RV10. He has a look of
surprise (concern??) on his face as I had told him that I was NOT
stopping ... that I was going on home. So of course I have to explain.
And what does he do? Insist that I do NOT get a hotel. That I DO come to
his place if I don't leave KPKB and that I stay there "as long as it
takes" for me to get good enough health and weather to get home! And I
did just that.
Rick and his family have been accommodating before. This is just the
way they are. I got up the next morning with a lot more rest and feeling
a lot better. I was able to tackle the weather situation with a lot
greater safety margin and a lot of credit goes to Rick.
As Rick would say ..."Thanks buddy!"
James ... FINALLY back home
RV6 "PapaJuliette"
p.s. About half way across the "mountains" the viz deteriorated and
buildups increased to the point where I told Atlanta Center that I was
turning around and landing at the nearest airport (had been keeping
close tabs on "my way out". I landed at Mountain Empire, got lunch,
waited for the viz to imporve and launched just in time to get home and
get just a few drops of the afternoon thunderboomers. Even though I am
instrument rated and the plane has the "equipment", I am a REAL WIMP
when it comes to this kind of weather ... especially when there is
cumulous-granitous around as well. :-)
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Hey Gang,
I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its maiden flight this
morning.
Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale provided great insight
and was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to retime itself and
attempt to destroy my engine on the 2nd flight. After we set the timing
back to where it belonged, the third flight was uneventful.
Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was mesmerized by the
airspeed indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it stalled with full
flaps.
All three landings were done with an approach speed of 65 mph and I
think I might be able to work it down to 60 after I get some more time
in this thing. That long, flat bottom wing really doesn't want to stop
flying.
I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to see the pictures and
read more about it is from this thread Radomir started on the VAF forum:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720
<http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=1#
post144720> &posted=1#post144720
Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a village to build
and RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a village of idiots.)
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: N941WR flies! |
MessageCongratulations, Bill (and Nora)
The kind of first flight everyone should have - even the P mag problem
was the right touch. Gets your attention and Reminds you we are
violating the laws of gravity - but easily fixed.
Great photos by Radomir and ones to remind you of this day for the rest
of your life (as if you would need any reminders).
Fly safe
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Repucci
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: N941WR flies!
Hey Gang,
I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its maiden flight this
morning.
Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale provided great insight
and was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to retime itself and
attempt to destroy my engine on the 2nd flight. After we set the timing
back to where it belonged, the third flight was uneventful.
Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was mesmerized by the
airspeed indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it stalled with full
flaps.
All three landings were done with an approach speed of 65 mph and I
think I might be able to work it down to 60 after I get some more time
in this thing. That long, flat bottom wing really doesn't want to stop
flying.
I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to see the pictures
and read more about it is from this thread Radomir started on the VAF
forum:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=
1#post144720
Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a village to build
and RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a village of idiots.)
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: N941WR flies! |
Congrats Bill!!!
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On 8/5/07, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Gang,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its maiden flight this
> morning.
>
> Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale provided great insight and
> was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to retime itself and attempt to
> destroy my engine on the 2nd flight. After we set the timing back to where
> it belonged, the third flight was uneventful.
>
> Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was mesmerized by the airspeed
> indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it stalled with full flaps.
>
> All three landings were done with an approach speed of 65 mph and I think
> I might be able to work it down to 60 after I get some more time in this
> thing. That long, flat bottom wing really doesn't want to stop flying.
>
> I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to see the pictures and
> read more about it is from this thread Radomir started on the VAF forum:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=1#post144720
>
> Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a village to build and
> RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a village of idiots.)
>
> Bill
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N941WR flies! |
Congrats Bill!!!!!!
--- Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its
> maiden flight this
> morning.
>
> Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale
> provided great insight
> and was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to
> retime itself and
> attempt to destroy my engine on the 2nd flight.
> After we set the timing
> back to where it belonged, the third flight was
> uneventful.
>
> Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was
> mesmerized by the
> airspeed indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it
> stalled with full
> flaps.
>
> All three landings were done with an approach speed
> of 65 mph and I
> think I might be able to work it down to 60 after I
> get some more time
> in this thing. That long, flat bottom wing really
> doesn't want to stop
> flying.
>
> I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to
> see the pictures and
> read more about it is from this thread Radomir
> started on the VAF forum:
>
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720
>
<http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=1#
> post144720> &posted=1#post144720
>
> Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a
> village to build
> and RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a
> village of idiots.)
>
> Bill
>
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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| Subject: | Re: N941WR flies! |
MessageBill,
Congratulations! I'm betting that there is no doubt that all the
endless hours of drilling, dimpling, deburring and riveting were all
well worth the effort. Well done.
Smokey
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Repucci
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: N941WR flies!
Hey Gang,
I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its maiden flight this
morning.
Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale provided great insight
and was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to retime itself and
attempt to destroy my engine on the 2nd flight. After we set the timing
back to where it belonged, the third flight was uneventful.
Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was mesmerized by the
airspeed indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it stalled with full
flaps.
All three landings were done with an approach speed of 65 mph and I
think I might be able to work it down to 60 after I get some more time
in this thing. That long, flat bottom wing really doesn't want to stop
flying.
I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to see the pictures
and read more about it is from this thread Radomir started on the VAF
forum:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=
1#post144720
Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a village to build
and RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a village of idiots.)
Bill
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8/5/2007 4:16 PM
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| Subject: | Re: N941WR flies! |
Congrats!!!
I have a few hours in a 9A and I know what you are talking about! Nice
plane.
James
On 8/5/07, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Gang,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that my RV-9 flew its maiden flight this
> morning.
>
> Tad flew wing w/ Radomir riding shotgun. Dale provided great insight and
> was a big help when one of my P-mags decided to retime itself and attempt to
> destroy my engine on the 2nd flight. After we set the timing back to where
> it belonged, the third flight was uneventful.
>
> Everyone hears how slow a -9 can fly but I was mesmerized by the airspeed
> indicator sitting just above 40 mph when it stalled with full flaps.
>
> All three landings were done with an approach speed of 65 mph and I think
> I might be able to work it down to 60 after I get some more time in this
> thing. That long, flat bottom wing really doesn't want to stop flying.
>
> I'm exhausted and need a shower but the best way to see the pictures and
> read more about it is from this thread Radomir started on the VAF forum:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=144720&posted=1#post144720
>
> Thanks everyone for the help! It really does take a village to build and
> RV. (Before you say it Tad, I wasn't saying a village of idiots.)
>
> Bill
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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