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1. 05:23 AM - Re: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in Portuguese?) (Ed Anderson)
2. 02:51 PM - Re: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in Portuguese?) (Dale Walter)
3. 05:42 PM - Miller? (Larry Bowen)
4. 08:17 PM - Re: Miller? (bill crothers)
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| Subject: | Re: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in Portuguese?) |
I paid $1180 this year for $60K hull and usually liability package. I have
over 350 hours in type and over 600 total pilot hours.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in
Portuguese?)
>
> BTW, my yearly insurance is $1850 for $75K hull. I suspect (hope!) it
> will come down once I have 100 hours in type.
>
> I would be curious how this compares to others.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robbie
> Walker
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:06 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in
> Portuguese?)
>
>
> --> <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
>
> Thank you everyone for the great advice.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> Robbie Walker
>
> On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Bill Repucci wrote:
>
>> <bill@repucci.com>
>>
>> Robbie,
>>
>> Build the airplane you want, not the one others want for themselves.
>>
>> I'm a low time pilot, about 350 hours, when I first flew my -9. (For
>> the record, this is a -9, not a -9A.) 150 of those hours were in
>> various tail wheel aircraft. The insurance requirement was all of
>> three
>> hours in any side-by-side RV before my first flight.
>>
>> There was no $800 insurance premium for me. Heck, as near as I can
>> there was no tail wheel premium attached to this plane.
>>
>> As for learning how to fly a tail wheel, I'll let you in on a little
>> secrete, it isn't any harder than learning to land an airplane. 10
>> hours and you will be ready to solo. Does the endorsement make you a
>> better pilot? Not in my opinion. What makes someone a good pilot is
>> their judgment, not how good they are with their feet.
>>
>> Just remember, when landing a tail wheel airplane the main thing is to
>> keep it straight, no matter what else happens, just keep it
>> straight and
>> all will work out.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
>> Walter
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:43 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in
>> Portuguese?)
>>
>>
>> --> <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>>
>> Insurance can be $800 or more higher for the tailwheel. Get a quote
>> before you build. Dale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Robbie
>> Walker
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in
>> Portuguese?)
>>
>> <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> Thanks for both the excellent advice and the relevant anecdotes. Now
>> I have a headache! <grin>
>>
>> But seriously, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm struggling with.
>> On one hand, I like the looks of the conventional gear and it's my
>> understanding (having NEVER flown in or landed one...) that they are
>> better on grass, worse on pavement. I've also been told that if you
>> really know what you are doing, they are no harder to land. But I've
>> also seen incident reports where many much more experienced pilots
>> than myself ground-looping them or worse. Not that the tricycle are
>> immune to landing issues... what plane is?
>>
>> Also, for everyone else, I'm NOT trying to get this debate started up
>> again, I'm just thinking out loud.
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> Robbie Walker
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Ed Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>>
>>> Robbie, like most decisions, there are pros and cons. I have flown
>>> both taildraggers and nose gear in and out of grass and paved
>>> strips. In my advancing years, I find a nose wheel lessens
>>> apprehension in coping with adverse wind conditions on landing.
>>> I found on one emergency aborted takeoff (got airborne and put it
>>> back down on a 2200 foot strip) that the nose wheel enabled me to
>>> apply maximum braking (left rubber for 300 ft - no lock up, just a
>>> good grip) which in a tail dragger would have end up on its nose
>>> (or back). On the other hand, as several recent incidents have
>>> shown landing an Rv- on its nose gear can result on your back as
>>> well. The bottom line is neither is going to save you from a
>>> really screwed up landing - so don't make one {:>).
>>>
>>> Getting viewpoints on each is good approach, but ultimately you
>>> need to go with what You want and feel comfortable with -
>>> regardless of other viewpoints on your choice. If you have not
>>> yet, try to get a ride in an RV both with and without nose gear and
>>> see if one appeals to you more than the other - because when its
>>> said and done, appeal is going to be a large driver in your decision.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Ed Anderson
>>> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>>> Matthews, NC
>>> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>>> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
>>> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Walker"
>>> <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text
>>> in Portuguese?)
>>>
>>>
>>>> <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
>>>>
>>>> Sweet... love the Boston at the beginning.
>>>> I'm still at the "mental" stage of things, so my decisions seem to
>>>> vacillate.
>>>> I was leaning towards a 7 for my wife... but she really doesn't
>>>> like to fly at all so I'm back to leaning towards the 8.
>>>> I was leaning towards tricycle but now I'm at conventional.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I need to finish getting my garage cleaned out now that
>>>> we moved in last week and get the empennage ordered.
>>>>
>>>> Robbie Walker
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 12, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Dale Walter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice video Robbie, thanks for sharing. Here is one from
>>>>> yesterday in our
>>>>> RV6a with a 2 turn spin, instrument panel is included:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ujjspDGXM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is dedicated to Bert M in Orlando, who inspired me. Do not
>>>>> archive
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy landings,
>>>>> Dale
>>>>> RV6a 920 hrs, large rudder
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be old hat to some of y'all, but I found it quite
>>>>> interesting. Definitely making me re-open the conventional vs.
>>>>> tricycle debate with myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.motionbox.com/video/player/a09addb11a1e28#1
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbie Walker
>>>>>
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| Subject: | Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in Portuguese?) |
We also need to know risks, hurricane zone? Type of hanger? Metro area has
higher costs than rural, may effect hull coverage costs. Other items??
Wilma destroyed 80 planes and dozens of hangers in my area. Insurance rates
went up.
Dale
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Anderson
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Boeing Crosswind Testing Movie (text in
Portuguese?)
<eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
I paid $1180 this year for $60K hull and usually liability package. I have
over 350 hours in type and over 600 total pilot hours.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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Any pireps from the Miller fly-in?
I flew at sunset and I was actually able to see the horizon for the first
time in many weeks. Smooth & 65 degrees at 3000'. Ahhhh.....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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didn't make it cause 28A still clsd due to asphalt
work, re-opens in am and going to LKR for form.
practice...come down for lunch.
--- Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
> Any pireps from the Miller fly-in?
>
> I flew at sunset and I was actually able to see the
> horizon for the first
> time in many weeks. Smooth & 65 degrees at 3000'.
> Ahhhh.....
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
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