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Wed 09/26/07


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     1. 03:04 PM - Fw: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits (Ed Anderson)
     2. 06:45 PM - Re: Fw: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits (Ron Schreck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:04:27 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Fw: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits
    Don't know if anybody on the Southeast list would be interested in this approach to self insurance or not, but here it is for your perusal. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: lorene washburn Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: FW: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits Tom Smith has asked that the following be forwarded to all RVers. Lorene _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who --Forwarded Message Attachment-- CC: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:04:57 -0700 From: info@aircraftmutual.com Subject: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits This letter is to update all interested prospected members regarding progress we have made in making Aircraft Mutual group a reality. Initially we were hoping to provide aircraft hull coverage and builder=92s risk. We have discovered that we could provide a better package to the RV builder that also includes liability coverage. Sort of a one stop shop for your insurance needs. In June we had a meeting with the broker to discuss the possibilities to offer an alternative insurance product to RV builders and flyers. We were advised that the concept was good and the next step would be to have an actuarial study and an independent audit to verify that the program would be a financial success to the members of the group. This information from these studies would be used to assess the feasibility of the program. This in turn would be presented to different underwriter insurers to purchase the master insurance coverage above the group deductible to make the program function. We will be seeking quotes from several insurers to obtain the best cost for the group. Once an agreeable quote is provided, the cost of premiums will be established to fund the insurance. This will allow us to provide a fixed cost for annual premiums for each member. The group will be a captive program essentially insuring itself up to a certain amount. This amount will be established by the financial audit and the actuaries. If that amount is exceeded then the excess insurance will trigger and provide coverage. The estimated costs to complete the actuarial study, financial audit and feasibility study are estimated at $30,000.00 to $45,000.00. How the program will work. 1. Each member will have a membership fee to belong to the program. This feel will be $2000.00 and will be a one time membership fee to establish your personal membership account. All members will start with a $2000.00 account. As profits are realized in this business a portion of those profits will go into your member account proportional to the balance in the account. (A similar process as what happens in your USAA insurance account, if you are insured by USAA.) 2. As capital exceeds that required by the company for reserves and normal customary business expenses a return on premium will be sent to the member on the anniversary of their membership. This premium rebate will be in addition to the 25% reduction that they receive by being in the group. 3. If the member no longer is flying a RV and wants to withdraw from Aircraft Mutual Benefit they will receive the balance on their membership account as a final settlement and the membership shall be terminated at that time. If conditions change and they want to return membership they shall again have to open their membership account with the preliminary deposit. This balance is subject to annual losses from operations. At this time we would like to start collecting a portion of the membership fee in the amount of $150.00 per member to fund the various studies that are needed to go forth. This money would be credited towards the initial membership fee but will not committed until we have contracted for the audit and feasibility studies. By asking for a percentage of the membership fee we are able to get an indication of the willingness of the RV population at large to participate in such a program. We will return all the money in the event we do not reach the $30,000.00 to $45,000.00 required to complete the studies. If we do receive the necessary interest and funds then we will consider that as a down payment on the membership account. We look forward to your response and participation to become a member of this group. Considering the safety record of RV aircraft we can start insuring ourselves and paying for ourselves not the entire general aviation market. Bob Kaufmann Rick Sked Aircraft Mutual Benefit Co. Aircraft Mutual Benefit Co. bob@AIRCRAFTMUTUAL.COM rick@AIRCRAFTMUTUAL.COM PS We are asking that the checks be sent to Aircraft Mutual at 1930 Village Center Circle, Suite 3-833, Las Vegas, NV 89134. If you are going to LOE then I will be around Russ Daves RV-10 but will be wearing an Aircraft Mutual Polo and Hat. I would welcome questions and potential deposits there also. We are expecting that all will be in place and finished by the first of the year and the RV community can begin to self cover itself at that time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out!


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    Time: 06:45:05 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits
    This should be a good deal if they can get enough members to make a go of it. I have sent in my $$$ and hope they can get enough to get started. Ron Schreck RV-8, "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fw: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits Don't know if anybody on the Southeast list would be interested in this approach to self insurance or not, but here it is for your perusal. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: lorene washburn Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: FW: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits Tom Smith has asked that the following be forwarded to all RVers. Lorene _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. 5433 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- CC: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:04:57 -0700 From: info@aircraftmutual.com Subject: Aircraft Mutual is ready to take deposits This letter is to update all interested prospected members regarding progress we have made in making Aircraft Mutual group a reality. Initially we were hoping to provide aircraft hull coverage and builder=92s risk. We have discovered that we could provide a better package to the RV builder that also includes liability coverage. Sort of a one stop shop for your insurance needs. In June we had a meeting with the broker to discuss the possibilities to offer an alternative insurance product to RV builders and flyers. We were advised that the concept was good and the next step would be to have an actuarial study and an independent audit to verify that the program would be a financial success to the members of the group. This information from these studies would be used to assess the feasibility of the program. This in turn would be presented to different underwriter insurers to purchase the master insurance coverage above the group deductible to make the program function. We will be seeking quotes from several insurers to obtain the best cost for the group. Once an agreeable quote is provided, the cost of premiums will be established to fund the insurance. This will allow us to provide a fixed cost for annual premiums for each member. The group will be a captive program essentially insuring itself up to a certain amount. This amount will be established by the financial audit and the actuaries. If that amount is exceeded then the excess insurance will trigger and provide coverage. The estimated costs to complete the actuarial study, financial audit and feasibility study are estimated at $30,000.00 to $45,000.00. How the program will work. 1. Each member will have a membership fee to belong to the program. This feel will be $2000.00 and will be a one time membership fee to establish your personal membership account. All members will start with a $2000.00 account. As profits are realized in this business a portion of those profits will go into your member account proportional to the balance in the account. (A similar process as what happens in your USAA insurance account, if you are insured by USAA.) 2. As capital exceeds that required by the company for reserves and normal customary business expenses a return on premium will be sent to the member on the anniversary of their membership. This premium rebate will be in addition to the 25% reduction that they receive by being in the group. 3. If the member no longer is flying a RV and wants to withdraw from Aircraft Mutual Benefit they will receive the balance on their membership account as a final settlement and the membership shall be terminated at that time. If conditions change and they want to return membership they shall again have to open their membership account with the preliminary deposit. This balance is subject to annual losses from operations. At this time we would like to start collecting a portion of the membership fee in the amount of $150.00 per member to fund the various studies that are needed to go forth. This money would be credited towards the initial membership fee but will not committed until we have contracted for the audit and feasibility studies. By asking for a percentage of the membership fee we are able to get an indication of the willingness of the RV population at large to participate in such a program. We will return all the money in the event we do not reach the $30,000.00 to $45,000.00 required to complete the studies. If we do receive the necessary interest and funds then we will consider that as a down payment on the membership account. We look forward to your response and participation to become a member of this group. Considering the safety record of RV aircraft we can start insuring ourselves and paying for ourselves not the entire general aviation market. Bob Kaufmann Rick Sked Aircraft Mutual Benefit Co. Aircraft Mutual Benefit Co. bob@AIRCRAFTMUTUAL.COM rick@AIRCRAFTMUTUAL.COM PS We are asking that the checks be sent to Aircraft Mutual at 1930 Village Center Circle, Suite 3-833, Las Vegas, NV 89134. If you are going to LOE then I will be around Russ Daves RV-10 but will be wearing an Aircraft Mutual Polo and Hat. I would welcome questions and potential deposits there also. We are expecting that all will be in place and finished by the first of the year and the RV community can begin to self cover itself at that time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out!




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