---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/06/07: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:10 PM - Re: Lots of Questions (Bert Murillo) 2. 06:41 PM - Re: Lots of Questions (Bill Repucci) 3. 06:56 PM - Re: Lots of Questions (Ed Anderson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:34 PM PST US From: "Bert Murillo" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions On 10/5/07, Tad Sargent wrote: > > > Steve your options are limited to the 7A, it exceeds your needs in every > category. I would choose the CS hartzell prop for the lifting capability. > > Tad Sargent > > 7A > > Steve; My question is why did you sell the Europa, was it a four place or a 2 place. I do not know too much about it, but it seems to me is a very stable aircraft, is not fast as an RV./ but if it is a fourplace is a big difference.. Rv's are fast. but not good in turbulence, that is because the short wings... a longer wing like in the europa gives you smoother ride... Forget about C/S propellers,, more things to go wrong, and more expense, keep it simple.. Well if you have any questions in particular, let me know. I have an RV6A, happy with it... Bert rv6a do not archive > ________________________________ > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Crimm > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:19 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Nothing like a good challenge... > > > Wants and wishes > > > 1. IFR capable for x-country > > 2. 180 HP > > 3. Want to be able to burn car gas > > 4. Want slider with tip up option > > 5. Between the wife and I we weigh 420 lbs ( fat asses...my wife just read > this and says she has a mature ass, mine is fat) > > 6. Want to carry a reasonable amount of baggage > > 7. Tri Gear > > 8. No acrobatics > > 9. No formation (been there done that in helicopters in the Army) > > 10. Wing leveler coupled to GPS (Alt hold would be really nice) > > 11. $80,000 budget ( now everyone laughs, he wants what for 80K) > > 12. Elec Flaps and trim > > 13. All the RV mods and stuff I need, that I don't know I should have or > look for to be a happy RV'er > > 14. Constant speed prop > > > Steve > > > ________________________________ > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Ron Schreck > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 20:08 > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Steve, > > > There is an RV for you. Just decide what you want to do with it... cross > country, IFR, acro, formation.. all of the above! Seriously, do an honest > evalution of what you want from an airplane then let us bend your ear. the > ball is in your court; what do you want/need to do? > > > Ron Schreck > > > RV-8, "Miss Izzy" > > > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Repucci > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:06 PM > > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Steve, > > > If you are not into acro, you might want to look at a -9A. They make a > great X-C plane, haul a ton, are just about as fast as the 6's and 7's and > cost more than a 6 but typically less than a 7. > > > As for bending our ears, everything you read about them is true. That's why > there are so many of the things flying. > > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Crimm > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:29 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > > And I will use the gentlemen term loosely. > > > I finalizing the sale of my Europa today and have been looking at lots of > ads on Barnstormers and Trade A Plane for an RV-6A or RV-7A to fill that > soon to be vacant spot in my hangar. Needless to say I have lots of > questions and don't think it would be fair to the group to ask all my "want > to be" questions on the forum. > > > My final goal is an aircraft that will be easy for my wife and grand > daughter to learn to fly in and that will let me do light IFR here in the > southeast. Besides all the normal go fast and looks great aspects of these > aircraft. > > > So with that said, who or whom would like to step up to the plate and let me > bend their ear about these wonderful aircraft you all operate. > > > Thanks, > > > Steve Crimm > > > Roswell, GA > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > page, > Photoshare, and much much more: > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:27 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions "Rv's are fast. but not good in turbulence, that is because the short wings... a longer wing like in the europa gives you smoother ride..." What? I thought the higher the wing loading the better ride in turbulence and shorter wings usually mean higher wing loading. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert Murillo Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions --> On 10/5/07, Tad Sargent wrote: > > > Steve your options are limited to the 7A, it exceeds your needs in > every category. I would choose the CS hartzell prop for the lifting > capability. > > Tad Sargent > > 7A > > Steve; My question is why did you sell the Europa, was it a four > place or a 2 place. I do not know too much about it, but it seems to me is a very stable aircraft, is not fast as an RV./ but if it is a fourplace is a big difference.. Rv's are fast. but not good in turbulence, that is because the short wings... a longer wing like in the europa gives you smoother ride... Forget about C/S propellers,, more things to go wrong, and more expense, keep it simple.. Well if you have any questions in particular, let me know. I have an RV6A, happy with it... Bert rv6a do not archive > ________________________________ > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Steve Crimm > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:19 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Nothing like a good challenge... > > > Wants and wishes > > > 1. IFR capable for x-country > > 2. 180 HP > > 3. Want to be able to burn car gas > > 4. Want slider with tip up option > > 5. Between the wife and I we weigh 420 lbs ( fat asses...my wife just > read this and says she has a mature ass, mine is fat) > > 6. Want to carry a reasonable amount of baggage > > 7. Tri Gear > > 8. No acrobatics > > 9. No formation (been there done that in helicopters in the Army) > > 10. Wing leveler coupled to GPS (Alt hold would be really nice) > > 11. $80,000 budget ( now everyone laughs, he wants what for 80K) > > 12. Elec Flaps and trim > > 13. All the RV mods and stuff I need, that I don't know I should have > or look for to be a happy RV'er > > 14. Constant speed prop > > > Steve > > > ________________________________ > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron > Schreck > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 20:08 > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Steve, > > > There is an RV for you. Just decide what you want to do with it... > cross country, IFR, acro, formation.. all of the above! Seriously, do > an honest evalution of what you want from an airplane then let us bend > your ear. the ball is in your court; what do you want/need to do? > > > Ron Schreck > > > RV-8, "Miss Izzy" > > > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Repucci > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:06 PM > > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Steve, > > > If you are not into acro, you might want to look at a -9A. They make > a great X-C plane, haul a ton, are just about as fast as the 6's and > 7's and cost more than a 6 but typically less than a 7. > > > As for bending our ears, everything you read about them is true. > That's why there are so many of the things flying. > > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Steve Crimm > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:29 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > > And I will use the gentlemen term loosely. > > > I finalizing the sale of my Europa today and have been looking at lots > of ads on Barnstormers and Trade A Plane for an RV-6A or RV-7A to fill > that soon to be vacant spot in my hangar. Needless to say I have lots > of questions and don't think it would be fair to the group to ask all > my "want to be" questions on the forum. > > > My final goal is an aircraft that will be easy for my wife and grand > daughter to learn to fly in and that will let me do light IFR here in > the southeast. Besides all the normal go fast and looks great aspects > of these aircraft. > > > So with that said, who or whom would like to step up to the plate and > let me bend their ear about these wonderful aircraft you all operate. > > > Thanks, > > > Steve Crimm > > > Roswell, GA > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. > matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. > matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. > matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > page, > Photoshare, and much much more: > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:55 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions Higher wing loading at the same air speeds generally means a less bumpy ride. But, if you are flying the higher wing loaded aircraft much faster than one with lighter wing loading then the acceleration due to the bump can be the same or greater. I find at slower airspeeds like in the pattern or on final my RV feels like its on a rail compared to what a hot thermal day would feel like in say a Cessna 150. But, I have also found that encountering turbulence at high cruise airspeeds can quickly bounce my head off the canopy - just glad the thing is stressed for aerobatics {:>) Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > "Rv's are fast. but not good in turbulence, that is because the short > wings... a longer wing like in the europa gives you smoother ride..." > > What? I thought the higher the wing loading the better ride in > turbulence and shorter wings usually mean higher wing loading. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert > Murillo > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:08 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions > > > --> > > On 10/5/07, Tad Sargent wrote: >> >> >> >> Steve your options are limited to the 7A, it exceeds your needs in >> every category. I would choose the CS hartzell prop for the lifting >> capability. >> >> Tad Sargent >> >> 7A >> >> Steve; My question is why did you sell the Europa, was it a four >> place or > a 2 place. I do not know too much about it, but it seems to me is a > very stable > aircraft, is not fast as an RV./ but if it is a fourplace is a big > difference.. > > Rv's are fast. but not good in turbulence, that is because the short > wings... a longer wing like in the europa gives you smoother ride... > Forget about C/S propellers,, more things to go wrong, and more > expense, keep it simple.. > > Well if you have any questions in particular, let me know. > > I have an RV6A, happy with it... > > > Bert > > rv6a > > do not archive > >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Steve Crimm >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:19 PM >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions >> >> >> >> Nothing like a good challenge... >> >> >> >> Wants and wishes >> >> >> >> 1. IFR capable for x-country >> >> 2. 180 HP >> >> 3. Want to be able to burn car gas >> >> 4. Want slider with tip up option >> >> 5. Between the wife and I we weigh 420 lbs ( fat asses...my wife just > >> read this and says she has a mature ass, mine is fat) >> >> 6. Want to carry a reasonable amount of baggage >> >> 7. Tri Gear >> >> 8. No acrobatics >> >> 9. No formation (been there done that in helicopters in the Army) >> >> 10. Wing leveler coupled to GPS (Alt hold would be really nice) >> >> 11. $80,000 budget ( now everyone laughs, he wants what for 80K) >> >> 12. Elec Flaps and trim >> >> 13. All the RV mods and stuff I need, that I don't know I should have >> or look for to be a happy RV'er >> >> 14. Constant speed prop >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron >> Schreck >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 20:08 >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions >> >> >> Steve, >> >> >> >> >> >> There is an RV for you. Just decide what you want to do with it... >> cross country, IFR, acro, formation.. all of the above! Seriously, do > >> an honest evalution of what you want from an airplane then let us bend > >> your ear. the ball is in your court; what do you want/need to do? >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Schreck >> >> >> RV-8, "Miss Izzy" >> >> >> Gold Hill Airpark, NC >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: Bill Repucci >> >> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:06 PM >> >> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve, >> >> >> >> >> >> If you are not into acro, you might want to look at a -9A. They make >> a great X-C plane, haul a ton, are just about as fast as the 6's and >> 7's and cost more than a 6 but typically less than a 7. >> >> >> >> >> >> As for bending our ears, everything you read about them is true. >> That's why there are so many of the things flying. >> >> >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Steve Crimm >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:29 PM >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Lots of Questions >> >> >> Gentlemen and Ladies, >> >> >> >> >> >> And I will use the gentlemen term loosely. >> >> >> >> >> >> I finalizing the sale of my Europa today and have been looking at lots > >> of ads on Barnstormers and Trade A Plane for an RV-6A or RV-7A to fill > >> that soon to be vacant spot in my hangar. Needless to say I have lots > >> of questions and don't think it would be fair to the group to ask all >> my "want to be" questions on the forum. >> >> >> >> >> >> My final goal is an aircraft that will be easy for my wife and grand >> daughter to learn to fly in and that will let me do light IFR here in >> the southeast. Besides all the normal go fast and looks great aspects > >> of these aircraft. >> >> >> >> >> >> So with that said, who or whom would like to step up to the plate and >> let me bend their ear about these wonderful aircraft you all operate. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve Crimm >> >> >> Roswell, GA >> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. >> matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. >> matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. >> matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - >> Navigator to browse >> page, >> Photoshare, and much much more: >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >> - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> the Web Forums! >> http://forums.matronics.com > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.