---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/12/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:38 AM - Test (Bill Settle) 2. 07:01 AM - Gray Eagles (Ken Harrill) 3. 07:58 AM - Re: Test (Ed Anderson) 4. 09:02 AM - Re: Test (Robbie Walker) 5. 05:54 PM - FW: Horace Williams Update - Your Help Needed! (Bill Repucci) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:38 AM PST US From: "Bill Settle" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Test ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:59 AM PST US From: "Ken Harrill" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Gray Eagles http://www.grayeagles.org/video.htm Ken Harrill 803 238-2199 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:32 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Test Bill, None of your text is coming through. Can only see the text by using "Properties" and looking under message source - something needs fixing. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Settle" Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:36 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Test > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:31 AM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Test DO NOT ARCHIVE Specifically, the MIME separators are not correct... looks like a potential bug in the webmail client to me... Details- This is the MIME Header line that sets the boundary separator... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23170_1205314563_0" Then it jumps directly to the text part of the MIME multipart without the initial boundary... Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Test. Do Not Archive Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23170_1205314563_1" And then jumps to the HTML without the original boundary... Definite bug... Robbie Walker On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: > > > > Bill, None of your text is coming through. Can only see the text by > using "Properties" and looking under message source - something > needs fixing. > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Settle" > > To: "rvsoutheast-list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:36 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Test > > >> >> > >
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23170_1205314563_0 NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23170_1205314563_1-- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:41 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: FW: Horace Williams Update - Your Help Needed! Hey Gang... Please take action on the following request from AOPA's Chris Hudson. Below his email is the text of a press release regarding this subject. Regards, Bill Repucci President, EAA 309 & RV-9 Builder and flier -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hudson [mailto: ] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: Horace Williams Update - Your Help Needed! Importance: High Hi again EAAers: Please find following our current data update and appeal to NC pilots to contact NC state legislators to ask that lawmakers prevent closure of UNC- Chapel Hill's Horace Williams Airport. Included is the link to easily enable members to identify and reach their representatives in the state House and Senate. We need legislation and sponsors thereof in this session of the General Assembly if we are to preserve this rare "urban" airport remaining in our state airport system. Please advise if you'd prefer not to receive this material going forward. Our members appreciate the current and past efforts of EAA chapters and members throughout this airport protection effort. For those of you who'd just like to cut and paste an appeal for emailing to members, here it is: NC Friends of Horace Williams Airport PO Box 33877, Charlotte, NC 28233 HORACE WILLIAMS AIRPORT (IGX) UPDATE for EAA Chapters Statewide 3/12/08 The UNC- Chapel Hill (IGX) airport matter is now at a point where we will need to muster opposition in the legislature at least one more time to maintain the good chance we have to keep this historic airport open. Active pilots and EAA members tend to be well-established and respected in their communities and regions. Your members are no exception. We ask today for your help knowing how powerful it can be when we get a group of our members in touch with decisionmakers on a given issue. Yes, this sounds like one of the Presidential candidates while they hit us up for our vote. At least in this case, you are liable to see significant results from any efforts you make. UNC-CH has submitted an application for a Special Use Permit to the Town of Chapel Hill to construct the first building in its new Carolina North campus. That building, if constructed as planned, would be within the obstruction-free areas mandated by FAR Part 77 and TERPS standards at IGX so as to require airport closure when it is occupied. NCFHWA (our bunch) spoke against the proposal at the Town's meeting at which the project was first presented by UNC and we continue to engage against airport closure at the Town, regional and state level on the matter. Because our aviation community has pushed this issue for 5 years, aviators and the medical community have a LOT of latent support in the General Assembly which will have a say on the matter IF we again bring contact with state House and Senate members to a high level this legislative session. As usual, time is of the essence, but if we make contact in the next several weeks, we can save this jewel in the state aviation system's crown. IGX is 80 years old this year and, of course, remains one of the only places we can fly into a town in NC and be "right there" near the action when we land. It's a wonderful thing that we still have pioneer aviators alive who were walking around when Isaac Tull and Charlie Martindale first flew off the pasture which is now IGX in 1928. This was before Prof. Horace Williams bought the property and later donated it to the UNC Philosophy Dept. Your contact with your own state legislators will be tremendous in securing victory on this longer-term issue. It is now a great time to set up a meeting with legislators in their districts. Or just call him or her and say how important airports and IGX are to you and the transportation system. If members would like ANY help in contacting or meeting with legislators, please give us a call and we will help set up meetings, call or meet them with you. Reps and Senators do not converge on Raleigh until May given the "short session" legislative schedule this year, so now is when we need contact in order to get a bill filed to keep the airport open. If you need an update as to your legislator's contacts, here's the link (if you'll blind copy NCFHWA on email traffic with legislators, we can both give you feedback we have and better monitor where our support is stronger and weaker): http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/GIS/Representation/Who_Represents_Me/Who_Rep resents_Me.html We continue to share anti-airport closure news releases with media outlets and aviation groups around the state (let us know if you'd like to be on our NCFHWA email list). We attach a copy of our latest news release. Any ideas and push y'all are able to give this issue could be the difference in gaining that one extra vote in the General Assembly. When you call pilot friends who are also NC voters, it makes a huge difference when your buddies then email or call in to their lawmaker. Please ask flying club members and others who share an interest in this issue to: 1) make contact with their legislators (1 House member and 1 Senator); 2) ask that the lawmaker prevent this needless airport closure by sponsoring legislation requiring a new airport in operation in Orange County BEFORE UNC is allowed to close this one; and 3) report what your legislator says to NCFHWA or EAA Chapter leaders who can report to us. Let's push for a future with a viable, vibrant Horace Williams we can continue to enjoy when flying to or from Chapel Hill! For more information , contact Chris Hudson at (704)338-9161 or cahudson@concentric.net NC Friends of Horace Williams Airport Steering Committee Larry Ford Hayesville Mike Hierholzer Durham Chris Hudson Charlotte Todd Huvard Clayton Ed McKinnon Southport John Shearer Chapel Hill NCFHWA contacts: Larry Ford Hayesville lford@usa.net Mike Hierholzer Durham mhierholzer@rustonpaving.com Chris Hudson Charlotte cahudson@concentric.net Todd Huvard Clayton todd@huvard.com Ed McKinnon Southport pilotsut@hotmail.com John Shearer Chapel Hill John_Shearer@bellsouth.net Press Release: NC Friends of Horace Williams Airport PO Box 33877, Charlotte, NC 28233 PRESS RELEASE/CIRCULAR February 28, 2008 Innovation Center Proposed for Carolina North Would Close Airport and Damage AHEC Program, Counter to NC House Committee Direction UNC- Chapel Hill's plan to construct a new University business incubation center adjacent to the site of the University's Horace Williams Airport would violate FAA airport obstruction guidelines, compromising the viability of the airport, which UNC wishes to close. In fact, the NC House Appropriations Committee on Education has told the University to maintain the airport until another Orange County airport can be sited and constructed, but the University has not acknowledged that fact to the Chapel Hill Town Council, which received a formal presentation from UNC on the proposed "Innovation Center" January 23. The proposal would be built closer to the northern edge of Horace Williams' east-west runway than previous uses of the land parcel. The proposed location would place the building in the obstruction-free area required for instrument approach procedures. The effect of this would be to reduce the utility of the airport and thus require its closure as soon as the building is occupied (sometime in late 2008 or early 2009). UNC represents that it is pursuing a search for an alternative site for a new airport in Orange County and working with County Commissioners to locate such a site. The University is, at the same time, budgeting for and planning a new AHEC air operations hangar at RDU Airport to which its aircraft would be moved upon completion. That hangar has received local zoning approval but construction has not yet begun. While the new-airport concept is a laudable goal, NCFHWA does not believe that UNC truly intends to site a new airport in Orange County because of the cost and time to build of such a project. NCFHWA believes that UNC intends only to soften long-term opposition to airport closure by talking "new airport afterward". In fact, a new Orange County airport would cost $25-60 million and is impractical. UNC's Trustees formally decided the same in 2005. The end result, if UNC's renowned AHEC program is moved to RDU and the airport is closed, would be no airport for the County, a tragedy given the need and the superlative history of Horace Williams. It is the second-most historically-significant airport in NC (after First Flight Airport at Kill Devil Hill). Southern Orange County and the western Triangle badly need more air transport access, not less. UNC doctors provide medical care to citizens around the State through outreach clinics and hospitals as part of the AHEC (Area Health Education Centers) program. Transportation of the doctors operates from Chapel Hill's Horace Williams Airport. This important facility is on the endangered species list because UNC-Chapel Hill administrators want to close the airport and use the 85-acre airport property to begin construction of their new 250-acre research campus known as Carolina North. UNC has studied options which would preserve the airport on the Carolina North tract, a significant benefit within and enhancement of the planned campus. Indeed, its initial Carolina North consulting firm recommended airport preservation just this way. Several UNC AHEC doctors who fly from the airport facility testified last June before the NC House subcommittee. Each said the number of patients they see would be substantially reduced should they be unable to get to a home-base airport as quickly as they do today. Doctors further said they could not be as many places as they are now able and each cited patient care deficiencies which would result. Beyond the direct loss of health care services, the dollar loss to UNC Hospitals would be enormous. Calculations of UNC Hospitals annual billings to patients referred from AHEC clinics served by the air operations group in 2005 were well beyond $90 million. Physicians who testified before the House committee are among the most frequent air service users. They cited probable reduction in the 25% range in the services they could provide if they were required to drive to RDU for air transport. The dollar impact from such attrition ought to be all that's needed for the Chancellor and UNC Trustees to fully evaluate such impact prior to any airport closure consideration. Instead, the University administration decided, without public discussion nor analysis of the potential UNC Health Care System losses, to site the first phase of Carolina North on the land parcel where the existing airport stands. The University has further lobbied the General Assembly to allow airport closure without such evaluation of AHEC impact. It is inconsistent at best and genuinely poor stewardship of University resources at worst for UNC to spend State dollar resources to destroy an asset as central to UNC and UNC Hospitals' mission as Horace Williams Airport with no transparent evaluation of resulting likely damage to its own renowned healthcare outreach programs. NCFHWA asks that UNC-CH Trustees and their Citizens of for Higher Education PAC more carefully consider the losses which we know will result should the airport close. It is noteworthy that many General Assembly members have continued to reject this proposal despite UNC administration efforts to secure approval for airport closure. The University is expected to ask the General Assembly during its short session for $30 million in planning and infrastructure money for Carolina North, intended for construction of the Innovation Center. We urge legislators to exercise the same wisdom they have shown to date with respect to the airport and decline to fund any such project which would tend to diminish the benefits of such a crucial State asset. For more information , contact NCFHWA steering committee member Chris Hudson at (704)338-9161 or cahudson@concentric.net NC Friends of Horace Williams Airport Steering Committee Larry Ford Hayesville Mike Hierholzer Durham Chris Hudson Charlotte Todd Huvard Clayton Ed McKinnon Southport John Shearer Chapel Hill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.