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Bill,
I do a lot of search and buying of electronic components - do you have a
part number as I do find Alps encoders on the net just not certain which
specific one you require??
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and
laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the
problem. Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body. Lots of
teenie weenie innards. Jeweler's loupes were brought out. Shaft is brass -
was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch
(if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home
workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked! (Past tense).
Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing
with it, so now it's back to broken status. I'd rather discover this on the
ground than on a X/C. I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a
structural material, really. Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps
3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net. The avionics
monopoly wins this round.
Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a
new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise. I might
open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and
patience I didn't know I had.
-Bill
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
I'm not really sure why you need a radio. Just stay out of controlled
airspace and keep your eyes open.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Fellow aviators:
A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of
my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs
repair.
I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get
the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap
first / repair later.
Any help out there?
Thanks,
Bill B/ Stormy
RV-6A
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft
encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.
Something like this one:
http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGP
SJ.PDF
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and
laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the
problem. Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body. Lots of
teenie weenie innards. Jeweler's loupes were brought out. Shaft is brass -
was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch
(if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home
workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked! (Past tense).
Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing
with it, so now it's back to broken status. I'd rather discover this on the
ground than on a X/C. I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a
structural material, really. Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps
3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net. The avionics
monopoly wins this round.
Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a
new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise. I might
open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and
patience I didn't know I had.
-Bill
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
I'm not really sure why you need a radio. Just stay out of controlled
airspace and keep your eyes open.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Fellow aviators:
A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of
my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs
repair.
I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get
the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap
first / repair later.
Any help out there?
Thanks,
Bill B/ Stormy
RV-6A
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders - might be something
of interest - but, if your data does not have any specs or details on times
- might be hard to match.
http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_IND
EX.PDF
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft
encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.
Something like this one:
http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGP
SJ.PDF
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and
laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the
problem. Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body. Lots of
teenie weenie innards. Jeweler's loupes were brought out. Shaft is brass -
was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch
(if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home
workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked! (Past tense).
Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing
with it, so now it's back to broken status. I'd rather discover this on the
ground than on a X/C. I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a
structural material, really. Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps
3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net. The avionics
monopoly wins this round.
Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a
new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise. I might
open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and
patience I didn't know I had.
-Bill
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
I'm not really sure why you need a radio. Just stay out of controlled
airspace and keep your eyes open.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Fellow aviators:
A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of
my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs
repair.
I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get
the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap
first / repair later.
Any help out there?
Thanks,
Bill B/ Stormy
RV-6A
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
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Ed, none of those pictures matched. the only number stamped on one of the
ganged modules was "7LV" If I could only trick Icom into selling me one, i
could install it in under 15 minutes.
-Bill
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>wr
ote:
> This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders - might be
> something of interest ' but, if your data does not have any specs or de
tails
> on times ' might be hard to match.
>
>
> http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_
INDEX.PDF
>
>
> Ed
>
>
> Ed Anderson
>
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>
> Matthews, NC
>
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>
> http://www.andersonee.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW<http://members.
cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
>
> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Anderson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
>
>
> Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow sha
ft
> encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a
> shaft. Something like this one:
>
>
> http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/S
RGPSJ.PDF
>
>
> Ed
>
>
> Ed Anderson
>
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>
> Matthews, NC
>
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>
> http://www.andersonee.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW<http://members.
cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
>
> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
>
>
> Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and
> laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the
> problem. Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body. Lots of
> teenie weenie innards. Jeweler's loupes were brought out. Shaft is bras
s -
> was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the swi
tch
> (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home
> workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked! (Past tense).
> Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing
> with it, so now it's back to broken status. I'd rather discover this on
the
> ground than on a X/C. I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a
> structural material, really. Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Al
ps
> 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net. The avionics
> monopoly wins this round.
>
> Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy
a
> new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise. I might
> open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and
> patience I didn't know I had.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure why you need a radio. Just stay out of controlled
> airspace and keep your eyes open.
>
>
> Bill
>
>
> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com; rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com;
> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
>
>
> Fellow aviators:
>
> A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat o
f
> my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
> tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
> since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and ne
eds
> repair.
>
> I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
> replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
> opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
> find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I g
et
> the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swa
p
> first / repair later.
>
> Any help out there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill B/ Stormy
> RV-6A
>
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I can certainly understand your frustration, you know the problem, you can
affect the solution - except! Here is one more set that appears to have
some different encoders from ALPS. Take a look at the stackable Grey
encoder.
http://www.dst-gmbh.de/encoder.htm
Don't guess you have a photo of your busted one?
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Ed, none of those pictures matched. the only number stamped on one of the
ganged modules was "7LV" If I could only trick Icom into selling me one, i
could install it in under 15 minutes.
-Bill
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:
This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders - might be something
of interest - but, if your data does not have any specs or details on times
- might be hard to match.
http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_IND
EX.PDF
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
_____
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft
encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.
Something like this one:
http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGP
SJ.PDF
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
<http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com
<http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm>
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
<http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html>
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
_____
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and
laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the
problem. Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body. Lots of
teenie weenie innards. Jeweler's loupes were brought out. Shaft is brass -
was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch
(if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home
workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked! (Past tense).
Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing
with it, so now it's back to broken status. I'd rather discover this on the
ground than on a X/C. I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a
structural material, really. Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps
3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net. The avionics
monopoly wins this round.
Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a
new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise. I might
open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and
patience I didn't know I had.
-Bill
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
I'm not really sure why you need a radio. Just stay out of controlled
airspace and keep your eyes open.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200
Fellow aviators:
A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of
my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs
repair.
I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get
the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap
first / repair later.
Any help out there?
Thanks,
Bill B/ Stormy
RV-6A
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Ed,
I'd say it's definitely one of the RK097 series, 9mm horizontal, but with
three gangs and two concentric shafts, the center one having a pull-on
switch function (to select .0125 MHz tuning steps). I don't see one like
that in the listings.
-Bill
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| Subject: | Emailing: 10064714-6b |
Ok, Bill. You want ganged - here you are. Actually, it's the only ones I
could find. But, from your description I presume the encoder looks
something like these?
http://www.ttnet.net/search-bin/show_html.jsp?cartno=-66.249.70.73020933cc&o
day 08/07/01&prdhtm=Y&cono=10064714&item_no=6&itno=MA502&dtno=000&type1=A&
vpcno=5672
Ed
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