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Mon 08/18/08


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:46 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Randy)
     2. 06:42 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Bill Boyd)
     3. 07:23 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Bill Repucci)
     4. 07:35 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (BOB MARTIN)
     5. 07:38 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Bill Boyd)
     6. 07:38 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Ed Anderson)
     7. 07:57 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (ronh4244@mchsi.com)
     8. 08:57 AM - Re: stormy & miriam (Bill Boyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:46:37 AM PST US
    From: "Randy" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: stormy & miriam
    Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! See ya soon! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of aviation with my sanity! -Bill On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400 To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage tomorrow. The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-) Stormy http://www.matronics.com/Nav=====


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    Time: 06:42:43 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: stormy & miriam
    Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy answer. If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. > Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I > took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock > Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! > See ya soon! > > Randy Utsey > D.J. Distributing Co. > 1429 Bryant St. > Charlotte, NC 28208 > 800-585-4126 > > djdist@bellsouth.net > www.djdist.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> > *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! > > I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and > growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? > Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not > up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again > cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) > > It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and > of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of > aviation with my sanity! > > -Bill > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: > >> Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two >> unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. >> >> One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. >> >> . >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> >> *Date*: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400 >> *To*: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject*: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam >> We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage >> tomorrow. >> >> The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the >> remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We >> stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst >> case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half >> before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. >> As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so >> time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the >> electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the >> engine while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really >> bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we >> got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. >> >> Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a >> trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full >> moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids >> tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler >> variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be >> back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or >> motorcycle :-) >> >> Stormy >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== * >> >> > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 07:23:44 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
    Subject: stormy & miriam
    Stormy, So what you are saying is that you will order your RV-7 tail kit next month? I wouldn't worry about the tail wheel thing, 10 hours of duel and you are good to go. Bill From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy answer. If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! See ya soon! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of aviation with my sanity! -Bill On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage tomorrow. The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-) Stormy http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 07:35:26 AM PST US
    From: BOB MARTIN <libertyva@msn.com>
    Subject: stormy & miriam
    Stormy=2C I had to jump in here! I agree=2C you should get out of flying.........for all the obvious reasons . Then you can sell your house and strip to The Veggie Tale Squadron!!! Let the negotiations begin! :-) Seriously=2C if you just had a tail wheel=2C a 180 hp with a C/S prop.... ..life would be good! ok........Maybe sell some lots in the bottom next to the strip........ Then pave it and buy a new kit! Just like you want it! Trying to help here! Bob Martin ps..........Larry has a saying he uses around the airport........ "Pray for contentment" Sometimes we forget just how lucky we are! From: sportav8r@gmail.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Randy=2C I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time)=2C maintain and upgrade what I've got =2C or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat=2C trailer and tr uck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us=2C given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy answer. =0A If I were rich and single=2C a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college=2C a VFR=2C nosewheel=2C fixed-pitch=2C doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. =0A Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket=2C much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 yea rs :-) but still=2C part of me wants to do it! -Stormy =0A On Mon=2C Aug 18=2C 2008 at 8:45 AM=2C Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Glad you made it back on the same day! =0A Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon=2C dropped her off in =0A Concord to get her car=2C then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR =0A from CLT to get to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. =0A Not a good VFR day! =0A See ya soon!=0A Randy =0A Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte=2C NC =0A 28208 800-585-4126=0A =0A djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com=0A =0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A =0A From: =0A Bill Boyd =0A =0A To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com =0A =0A Sent: Saturday=2C August 16=2C 2008 2:34 =0A PM=0A Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy =0A & miriam=0A =0A Yeah=2C Ocracoke is a repeatable trip=2C to be sure! I'm =0A looking to things that need doing on the 6A=2C and it's a long and growin g =0A list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? =0A Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is =0A not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once =0A again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) It's =0A also battery replacement time=2C transponder troubleshooting time=2C and of =0A course=2C time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of =0A aviation with my sanity! -Bill =0A On Sat=2C Aug 16=2C 2008 at 2:10 PM=2C Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> =0A wrote: =0A Welcome =0A home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected day s in =0A SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. One of my favorite beach trips =0A was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. .=0A Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=0A =0A =0A From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> 22:44:27 -0400 Subject: =0A RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam =0A We came on home today=2C so no plans for us to grab BBQ in =0A Carthage tomorrow. The return home took 8 hours=2C of which 2.4 =0A were airborne=2C and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the rad ar to =0A show a clear path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap =0A fuel at KCPC=2C and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever =0A experienced. It too an hour and a half before the engine would start =0A and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside=2C I believe m y =0A second Facet boost pump is all show and no go=2C so time to replace it with my =0A third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer =0A system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempt ing a =0A hot start. Later=2C we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns =0A blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon=2C so we got to know th e =0A Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. Safe home now=2C shortly =0A before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a trap and filled out =0A valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chan ce we =0A might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was =0A wall to wall people=2C mostly of the squealing toddler variety=2C and n ot a =0A beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be back=2C and =0A looking forward to the next get together=2C whether by plane or motorcy cle =0A :-) Stormy http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== =0A =0A =0A href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List=0A href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A ============0A ============0A ============0A ============0A =0A _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC=2C your mobile phone=2C and the web with Windows=AE.


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    Time: 07:38:02 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: stormy & miriam
    Yeah, that's probably what it boils down to - a fast-build kit :-) Dueling for 10 hours?! Someone could get shot like that - possibly me. -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote: > Stormy, > > > So what you are saying is that you will order your RV-7 tail kit next > month? > > > I wouldn't worry about the tail wheel thing, 10 hours of duel and you are > good to go. > > > Bill > > > *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd > *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2008 9:40 AM > *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > > Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to > build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or > just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I > find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane > will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm > based. It is not a question with an easy answer. > > If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be > almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, > nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. > > Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR > ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years > :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! > > -Stormy > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy > yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took > off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! > Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! > > See ya soon! > > > Randy Utsey > D.J. Distributing Co. > 1429 Bryant St. > Charlotte, NC 28208 > 800-585-4126 > > > djdist@bellsouth.net > www.djdist.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> > > *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM > > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > > Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! > > I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and > growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? > Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not > up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again > cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) > > It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and > of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of > aviation with my sanity! > > -Bill > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: > > Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected > days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. > > One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. > > . > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > > *From*: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> > *Date*: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400 > *To*: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com> > *Subject*: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage > tomorrow. > > The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder > in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 > miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of > vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the > engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside, > I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to > replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric > solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine > while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) > radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to > know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. > > Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a > trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full > moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids > tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler > variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be > back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or > motorcycle :-) > > Stormy > > *http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== * > > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * > >


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    Time: 07:38:05 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: stormy & miriam
    Tough decision, Stormy. Fortunately have all my kids are way past the college stage (grandchildren are at that stage {:>)), so I don't face some of the same constraints - but, then being retired adds some of its own (mainly $$). But, when I built my RV-6A (Yes, with training wheel that I have really come to appreciate on those days with 25kt cross winds), I built it with light IFR instrumentation, heated pitot, etc. I took the ground school and also the FAA written exam on the route to getting my IFR. Then I did some real soul searching and decided that getting an IFR ticket might not be the smartest thing for me in my situation. I came to realization that: 1. I would probably NOT fly frequently enough to maintain IFR skills, which could lead to me getting myself into situations that were best not to be in 2. It cost more to keep the IFR certification of the equipment current 3. That being retired there was really no reason I had to be anywhere at any particular time - that any weather, I could wait out. Forced to spend 5 days in Fl once at a fellow fliers house along with 4 others who got confined by the weather - spent 5 days drinking beer, eating pizza and telling/hearing more lies and stories than one could imagine. A really tough 5 days that I would have likely missed had I an IFR ticket. Not that this is necessarily a recommendation against one {:<)). In the over ten years since I made that decision, circumstances have confirmed the wisdom of choice (at least for me in my situation). But, I am glad that I have not yet had to give up flying - hope to have one more decade of it. I suggest that looking up from your very,very nice motorcycle at an RV zipping along might not be compensation enough for having given one up. Now building another one - that is something worth thinking about {:>) Just my 0.02 worth Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com <http://www.andersonee.com/> http://www.andersonee.com <http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW <http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy answer. If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! See ya soon! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com> Boyd Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of aviation with my sanity! -Bill On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage tomorrow. The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-) Stormy http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.


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    From: ronh4244@mchsi.com
    Subject: Re: stormy & miriam
    Just to keep peace in the family you may ask your wife what she would like. If mama isn't happy you sure won't be happy. Ron H. -- RV-9A N362TS -------------- Original message from "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>: -------------- Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy answer. If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! See ya soon! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels? Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of aviation with my sanity! -Bill On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. . Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage tomorrow. The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-) Stormy http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c <html> <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <head></head> <body> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Just to keep peace in the family you may ask your wife what she would like. If mama isn't happy you sure won't be happy.</DIV> <DIV>Ron H.</DIV> <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>RV-9A <BR>N362TS</DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Bill Boyd" &lt;sportav8r@gmail.com&gt;: -------------- <BR><BR> <DIV dir=ltr>Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck.&nbsp; I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm based.&nbsp; It is not a question with an easy answer.<BR><BR>If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be almost a no-brainer.&nbsp; As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term.<BR><BR>Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it!<BR><BR>-Stormy<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:djdist@bellsouth.net">djdist@bellsouth.net</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV bgcolor="#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Glad you made it back on the same day!&nbsp; Carolyn &amp; I returned from Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill!&nbsp; Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA.&nbsp; Not a good VFR day!&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>See ya soon!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR>Randy Utsey<BR>D.J. Distributing Co.<BR>1429 Bryant St.<BR>Charlotte, NC&nbsp; 28208<BR>800-585-4126</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:djdist@bellsouth.net" target=_blank>djdist@bellsouth.net</A><BR><A href="http://www.djdist.com/" target=_blank>www.djdist.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B> <A title=sportav8r@gmail.com href="mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com" target=_blank>Bill Boyd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> <A title=rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com href="mailto:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com" target=_blank>rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B> Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy &amp; miriam</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr>Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure!<BR><BR>I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and growing list.&nbsp; Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheels?&nbsp; Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains.&nbsp; Darned aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear.&nbsp; My brackets are once again cracked about all the way through.&nbsp; (Turf strips...)<BR><BR>It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings.&nbsp; Maybe it's time to get out of aviation with my sanity!<BR><BR>-Bill<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com" target=_blank>Larry@bowenaero.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. <BR><BR>One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. <BR><BR>. <P>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</P> <P></P> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> <B>From</B>: "Bill Boyd" &lt;<A href="mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com" target=_blank>sportav8r@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date</B>: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400<BR><B>To</B>: &lt;<A href="mailto:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com" target=_blank>rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>Subject</B>: RVSouthEast-List: stormy &amp; miriam<BR> <DIV dir=ltr>We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage tomorrow.&nbsp; <BR><BR>The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path.&nbsp; We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced.&nbsp; It too an hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than a second or two.&nbsp; As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700 hours.&nbsp; Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot start.&nbsp; Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out.<BR><BR>Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spr ead sn apped shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids tonight.&nbsp; Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon.&nbsp; Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-)<BR><BR>Stormy<BR></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face=cou/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List color=#000000 size=2><A href="http://www.matronics.com/Nav=====" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Nav=====</A> </FONT></B></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2> href="<A href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List</A>"&gt;<A href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List</A> href="<A href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com</A>"&gt;<A href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com</A> href="<A href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution</A>"&gt;<A href="http://www.matronics.com/c" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/c</A> </FONT></B></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2> </FONT></B></PRE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:57:32 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: stormy & miriam
    I share a lot of your same thoughts, Ed, except being one of the boomers wh o might never fully retire, the get-home-itis could remain an issue for twent y years or so. At least I will probably always be self-employed, so that helps. And Ron, believe me, I would not even think to undertake a new kit build without the wife's permission - nay, encouragement. It's not worth it otherwise. -Stormy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>wr ote: > Tough decision, Stormy. Fortunately have all my kids are way past the > college stage (grandchildren are at that stage {:>)), so I don't face so me > of the same constraints ' but, then being retired adds some of its own > (mainly $$). But, when I built my RV-6A (Yes, with training wheel that I > have really come to appreciate on those days with 25kt cross winds), I bu ilt > it with light IFR instrumentation, heated pitot, etc. I took the ground > school and also the FAA written exam on the route to getting my IFR. > > > Then I did some real soul searching and decided that getting an IFR ticke t > might not be the smartest thing for me in my situation. I came to > realization that: > > > 1. I would probably NOT fly frequently enough to maintain IFR skills, > which could lead to me getting myself into situations that were best n ot to > be in > 2. It cost more to keep the IFR certification of the equipment current > 3. That being retired there was really no reason I had to be anywhere > at any particular time ' that any weather, I could wait out. Forced to > spend 5 days in Fl once at a fellow fliers house along with 4 others w ho got > confined by the weather ' spent 5 days drinking beer, eating pizza a nd > telling/hearing more lies and stories than one could imagine. A reall y > tough 5 days that I would have likely missed had I an IFR ticket. Not that > this is necessarily a recommendation against one {:<)). > > > In the over ten years since I made that decision, circumstances have > confirmed the wisdom of choice (at least for me in my situation). > > > But, I am glad that I have not yet had to give up flying ' hope to have one > more decade of it. I suggest that looking up from your very,very nic e > motorcycle at an RV zipping along might not be compensation enough for > having given one up. Now building another one ' that is something wort h > thinking about {:>) > > > Just my 0.02 worth > > > Ed > > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW<http://members. cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm> > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd > *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2008 9:40 AM > *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > > Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether to > build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've got, or > just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and truck. I > find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and instrumentation in the pl ane > will ever be worth it to us, given the kind of flying we do and where I'm > based. It is not a question with an easy answer. > > If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS would be > almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a VFR, > nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near term. > > Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear and I FR > ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and lonely 4 year s > :-) but still, part of me wants to do it! > > -Stormy > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from Mt. Air y > yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car, then I took > off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get to Rock Hill! > Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day! > > See ya soon! > > > Randy Utsey > D.J. Distributing Co. > 1429 Bryant St. > Charlotte, NC 28208 > 800-585-4126 > > > djdist@bellsouth.net > www.djdist.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> > > *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM > > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > > Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure! > > I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long and > growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose wheel s? > Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned aluminum is n ot > up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets are once again > cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...) > > It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting time, and > of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time to get out of > aviation with my sanity! > > -Bill > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote: > > Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two unexpect ed > days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once. > > One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on Ocracoke. > > . > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > > *From*: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> > *Date*: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400 > *To*: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com> > *Subject*: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam > > We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in Carthage > tomorrow. > > The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and the remaind er > in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear path. We stopped 30 > miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and had the worst case of > vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an hour and a half before the > engine would start and stay running more than a second or two. As an asi de, > I believe my second Facet boost pump is all show and no go, so time to > replace it with my third one in 700 hours. Might explain why the electri c > solenoid primer system didn't seem to help getting any fuel to the engine > while attempting a hot start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad ) > radar returns blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to > know the Danville FBO real well while we waited it out. > > Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped shut like a > trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is blocking the full > moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the left-over Perseids > tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of the squealing toddler > variety, and not a beach we will be doing again any time soon. Glad to b e > back, and looking forward to the next get together, whether by plane or > motorcycle :-) > > Stormy > > *http://www.matronics.com/Nav===== * > > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >




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