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| Subject: | Re: stormy & miriam |
Hi Stormy: Being able to file, & fly IFR in the system just allows you
more choices. Is it safer to bump along at 1500 AGL trying to stay VFR
and looking out for antennas and spending time at airports other than
the one you want to go or to be able to use the system that we pay a lot
of money for and file IFR, climb through the broken stuff to a clear sky
and enjoy a better ride with positive control from the FED's? I think
that the conception of flying IFR means making approaches to minimums,
dealing with alternates, low fuel, icing, etc, etc, keeps a lot of
pilots away from it. The reality of it is you still choose the weather
conditions you are comfortable with. If I need to go to Richmond for
the day and it is 1,500 broken, 6,000 overcast then I make that trip
knowing that even if I have to make the approach I will be breaking out
into VFR WX, 1,000 ft above my decision height. Using a 396 or 496 to
monitor the WX at your destination makes it even easier and much more
comforting! In your situation in the beautiful mountains, having the
rating and the plane would at least you get you closer to home and allow
you more choices on your cross country trips. The other detail to
consider is that you will probably have to get the rating in a more
typical C172 as I have not heard of many examiners that will ride with
you in an experimental plane for your checkride. Then you would need to
transfer those newly learned skills into the higher performance RV. By
all means install an autopilot if you decide to go the IFR, RV route!
Good luck, its always great seeing you and Mirium at the get-togethers!
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam
Randy, I'm doing some serious soul-searching these days about whether
to build another one (better this time), maintain and upgrade what I've
got, or just sell it and get a nicer motorcycle and a boat, trailer and
truck. I find myself wondering whether an IFR rating and
instrumentation in the plane will ever be worth it to us, given the kind
of flying we do and where I'm based. It is not a question with an easy
answer.
If I were rich and single, a full-IFR RV-7 slider with a 180 hp CS
would be almost a no-brainer. As a married man with kids in college, a
VFR, nosewheel, fixed-pitch, doggy ol' 6A makes more sense in the near
term.
Wondering where I will find the time to train for conventional gear
and IFR ticket, much less to build again - last time was a long and
lonely 4 years :-) but still, part of me wants to do it!
-Stormy
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Glad you made it back on the same day! Carolyn & I returned from
Mt. Airy yesterday at noon, dropped her off in Concord to get her car,
then I took off for Rock Hill and had to pick up an IFR from CLT to get
to Rock Hill! Was able to cancel 5 miles from UZA. Not a good VFR day!
See ya soon!
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam
Yeah, Ocracoke is a repeatable trip, to be sure!
I'm looking to things that need doing on the 6A, and it's a long
and growing list. Know of a source for SS wheel pant brackets for nose
wheels? Attawayair evidently makes them only for the mains. Darned
aluminum is not up to the punishment on a Van's nose gear. My brackets
are once again cracked about all the way through. (Turf strips...)
It's also battery replacement time, transponder troubleshooting
time, and of course, time to repack the wheel bearings. Maybe it's time
to get out of aviation with my sanity!
-Bill
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com>
wrote:
Welcome home. We've all had trips like that. Pam and I spent two
unexpected days in SE Ohio on the way back from MI once.
One of my favorite beach trips was staying at that cottage on
Ocracoke.
.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:27 -0400
To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam
We came on home today, so no plans for us to grab BBQ in
Carthage tomorrow.
The return home took 8 hours, of which 2.4 were airborne, and
the remainder in various FBO's waiting for the radar to show a clear
path. We stopped 30 miles from Grand Strand for cheap fuel at KCPC, and
had the worst case of vapor lock I have ever experienced. It too an
hour and a half before the engine would start and stay running more than
a second or two. As an aside, I believe my second Facet boost pump is
all show and no go, so time to replace it with my third one in 700
hours. Might explain why the electric solenoid primer system didn't
seem to help getting any fuel to the engine while attempting a hot
start. Later, we had not red but pink (really bad) radar returns
blocking out final 75 miles home this afternoon, so we got to know the
Danville FBO real well while we waited it out.
Safe home now, shortly before the temp/dewpoint spread snapped
shut like a trap and filled out valley here with thick fog which is
blocking the full moon and any chance we might have had of seeing the
left-over Perseids tonight. Myrtle was wall to wall people, mostly of
the squealing toddler variety, and not a beach we will be doing again
any time soon. Glad to be back, and looking forward to the next get
together, whether by plane or motorcycle :-)
Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: stormy & miriam |
Good thoughts, Randy. I tell myself I never will know how far I could have
gone until I push myself to try new things. IFR rating is one such area.
The C-172 is a big deterrent, but I look for that to change as the fleet
ages; at least there might be some all-glass 172's to train in soon, if not
an acceptance of training in experimentals themselves. Already have the
autopilot and altitude hold installed - a real bacon-saver if used
correctly; hopefully never needed for that purpose.
-Stormy
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Hi Stormy: Being able to file, & fly IFR in the system just allows you
> more choices. Is it safer to bump along at 1500 AGL trying to stay VFR and
> looking out for antennas and spending time at airports other than the one
> you want to go or to be able to use the system that we pay a lot of money
> for and file IFR, climb through the broken stuff to a clear sky and enjoy a
> better ride with positive control from the FED's? I think that the
> conception of flying IFR means making approaches to minimums, dealing with
> alternates, low fuel, icing, etc, etc, keeps a lot of pilots away from it.
> The reality of it is you still choose the weather conditions you are
> comfortable with. If I need to go to Richmond for the day and it is 1,500
> broken, 6,000 overcast then I make that trip knowing that even if I have to
> make the approach I will be breaking out into VFR WX, 1,000 ft above my
> decision height. Using a 396 or 496 to monitor the WX at your destination
> makes it even easier and much more comforting! In your situation in the
> beautiful mountains, having the rating and the plane would at least you get
> you closer to home and allow you more choices on your cross country trips.
> The other detail to consider is that you will probably have to get the
> rating in a more typical C172 as I have not heard of many examiners that
> will ride with you in an experimental plane for your checkride. Then you
> would need to transfer those newly learned skills into the higher
> performance RV. By all means install an autopilot if you decide to go the
> IFR, RV route!
> Good luck, its always great seeing you and Mirium at the get-togethers!
>
> Randy Utsey
> D.J. Distributing Co.
> 1429 Bryant St.
> Charlotte, NC 28208
> 800-585-4126
>
> djdist@bellsouth.net
> www.djdist.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: stormy & miriam |
You probably could find a CFII to give you the instruction in your RV
and I bet there is a designated examiner who would give you the
checkride so you might be able to avoid the Cessna ordeal. Most of the
new Cessna's have the Garmin glass panel so that would require another
learning curve that would not be of much benefit to you in your RV. I
could give you the dual but the distance thing would not be very
convenient.
Later,
Randy Utsey CFII
RV-7 / N55CU
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam
Good thoughts, Randy. I tell myself I never will know how far I could
have gone until I push myself to try new things. IFR rating is one such
area. The C-172 is a big deterrent, but I look for that to change as
the fleet ages; at least there might be some all-glass 172's to train in
soon, if not an acceptance of training in experimentals themselves.
Already have the autopilot and altitude hold installed - a real
bacon-saver if used correctly; hopefully never needed for that purpose.
-Stormy
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi Stormy: Being able to file, & fly IFR in the system just allows
you more choices. Is it safer to bump along at 1500 AGL trying to stay
VFR and looking out for antennas and spending time at airports other
than the one you want to go or to be able to use the system that we pay
a lot of money for and file IFR, climb through the broken stuff to a
clear sky and enjoy a better ride with positive control from the FED's?
I think that the conception of flying IFR means making approaches to
minimums, dealing with alternates, low fuel, icing, etc, etc, keeps a
lot of pilots away from it. The reality of it is you still choose the
weather conditions you are comfortable with. If I need to go to
Richmond for the day and it is 1,500 broken, 6,000 overcast then I make
that trip knowing that even if I have to make the approach I will be
breaking out into VFR WX, 1,000 ft above my decision height. Using a
396 or 496 to monitor the WX at your destination makes it even easier
and much more comforting! In your situation in the beautiful mountains,
having the rating and the plane would at least you get you closer to
home and allow you more choices on your cross country trips. The other
detail to consider is that you will probably have to get the rating in a
more typical C172 as I have not heard of many examiners that will ride
with you in an experimental plane for your checkride. Then you would
need to transfer those newly learned skills into the higher performance
RV. By all means install an autopilot if you decide to go the IFR, RV
route!
Good luck, its always great seeing you and Mirium at the
get-togethers!
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
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| Subject: | Re: stormy & miriam |
Ah, but if I had the money saved up and the plane ready for this
undertaking, I could move to Charlotte for a couple of weeks :-)
Not this year.
-Stormy
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> You probably could find a CFII to give you the instruction in your RV and
> I bet there is a designated examiner who would give you the checkride so
> you might be able to avoid the Cessna ordeal. Most of the new Cessna's have
> the Garmin glass panel so that would require another learning curve that
> would not be of much benefit to you in your RV. I could give you the dual
> but the distance thing would not be very convenient.
> Later,
>
> Randy Utsey CFII
> RV-7 / N55CU
> Charlotte, NC 28208
> 800-585-4126
>
> djdist@bellsouth.net
> www.djdist.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: stormy & miriam
>
> Good thoughts, Randy. I tell myself I never will know how far I could have
> gone until I push myself to try new things. IFR rating is one such area.
> The C-172 is a big deterrent, but I look for that to change as the fleet
> ages; at least there might be some all-glass 172's to train in soon, if not
> an acceptance of training in experimentals themselves. Already have the
> autopilot and altitude hold installed - a real bacon-saver if used
> correctly; hopefully never needed for that purpose.
>
> -Stormy
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Randy <djdist@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stormy: Being able to file, & fly IFR in the system just allows you
>> more choices. Is it safer to bump along at 1500 AGL trying to stay VFR and
>> looking out for antennas and spending time at airports other than the one
>> you want to go or to be able to use the system that we pay a lot of money
>> for and file IFR, climb through the broken stuff to a clear sky and enjoy a
>> better ride with positive control from the FED's? I think that the
>> conception of flying IFR means making approaches to minimums, dealing with
>> alternates, low fuel, icing, etc, etc, keeps a lot of pilots away from it.
>> The reality of it is you still choose the weather conditions you are
>> comfortable with. If I need to go to Richmond for the day and it is 1,500
>> broken, 6,000 overcast then I make that trip knowing that even if I have to
>> make the approach I will be breaking out into VFR WX, 1,000 ft above my
>> decision height. Using a 396 or 496 to monitor the WX at your destination
>> makes it even easier and much more comforting! In your situation in the
>> beautiful mountains, having the rating and the plane would at least you get
>> you closer to home and allow you more choices on your cross country trips.
>> The other detail to consider is that you will probably have to get the
>> rating in a more typical C172 as I have not heard of many examiners that
>> will ride with you in an experimental plane for your checkride. Then you
>> would need to transfer those newly learned skills into the higher
>> performance RV. By all means install an autopilot if you decide to go the
>> IFR, RV route!
>> Good luck, its always great seeing you and Mirium at the get-togethers!
>>
>> Randy Utsey
>> D.J. Distributing Co.
>> 1429 Bryant St.
>> Charlotte, NC 28208
>> 800-585-4126
>>
>> djdist@bellsouth.net
>> www.djdist.com
>>
>>
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