---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/01/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:22 AM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (dralle@matronics.com) 2. 03:57 PM - Re: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason (bert murillo) 3. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason (Dale Walter) 4. 08:53 PM - Re: F-15C Capability (Speedy11@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:16 AM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:37 PM PST US From: bert murillo Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason -HI;- I DOO NOT KNOW, BUT THIS WAS PRESENTED ON PUBLIC TELEVISION SOME MONTHS AGO. iT WAS NOT A MOVIE, A NEWS REPORT i BELIEVE. - CAN THEN YOU EXPLAIN HOW CAN THIS BE??????? - ROBERT --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Don Hall wrote: From: Don Hall Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason _filtered #yiv531697182 {margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} #yiv531697182 P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";} #yiv531697182 LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";} #yiv531697182 DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";} #yiv531697182 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv531697182 SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv531697182 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv531697182 SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv531697182 P { FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roma n";} #yiv531697182 SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR:navy;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;} #yiv531697182 DIV.Section1 { } More on the one-wing miracle. - http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.htm l - ******************************************-Don Hall------- ---------- -N517DG (registered)- -rv7 finishing ****************************************** - From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason - - Here=A2s another one for you, Stan. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PBHawwpeM - Amazing what they can do with a RC model of the F-15 minus one wing. - Ed Anderson - - - It is unbelievable because it is fake. It was a RC plane and they put together the tape with a real airplane at th e end.- Notice they don't show the "damaged" right wing as the guy opens the canopy. Come on guys - you're educated pilots.- You know the aerodynamics of airc raft well enough to know even Sean Tucker with his hovering stunt couldn't do that. The Germans have pulled a fast one on you. Stan Sutterfield - This was way too good not to pass along.- I had to watch it a few times a nd I'm still not sure it is not an RC model. - -- http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html Here is a post incident interview with the pilot:- (Caution, bad language .. I think he has the right to use a little profanity after that flight.) http://www.jamesandersson.com/interview.html - Plan your next getaway with 200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/dis count-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001">Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel De als! href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signatur e database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signatur e database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List --> http://forums.matro nics.com -Matt href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.ma tronics.com/contribution =========== =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:37 PM PST US From: "Dale Walter" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason The spin was not even the correct direction, the landing roll was not consistent with the speed needed to perform a knife edge, and TV news is not considered reliable by the educated. Animation people have pointed out many other facts. Sorry. Dale _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason HI; I DOO NOT KNOW, BUT THIS WAS PRESENTED ON PUBLIC TELEVISION SOME MONTHS AGO. iT WAS NOT A MOVIE, A NEWS REPORT i BELIEVE. CAN THEN YOU EXPLAIN HOW CAN THIS BE??????? ROBERT --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Don Hall wrote: From: Don Hall Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason More on the one-wing miracle. http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.html ****************************************** Don Hall N517DG (registered) rv7 finishing ****************************************** _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Fake airmanship you won't believe - for good reason Here?s another one for you, Stan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PBHawwpeM Amazing what they can do with a RC model of the F-15 minus one wing. Ed Anderson It is unbelievable because it is fake. It was a RC plane and they put together the tape with a real airplane at the end. Notice they don't show the "damaged" right wing as the guy opens the canopy. Come on guys - you're educated pilots. You know the aerodynamics of aircraft well enough to know even Sean Tucker with his hovering stunt couldn't do that. The Germans have pulled a fast one on you. Stan Sutterfield This was way too good not to pass along. I had to watch it a few times and I'm still not sure it is not an RC model. http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html Here is a post incident interview with the pilot: (Caution, bad language. I think he has the right to use a little profanity after that flight.) http://www.jamesandersson.com/interview.html _____ Plan your next getaway with 200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0 0000001">Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List --> http://forums.matronics.com -Matt href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution =========== st" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:35 PM PST US From: Speedy11@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: F-15C Capability Your airmanship is more impressive than that of the F-15 pilot. It the first place, he hit another aircraft in an air-to-air fight. He shouldn't have. Second, he should have ejected after the collision - despite the outcome, attempting to fly and land the jet was poor judgement. However, gliding your RV-6 12 miles to an airport landing is quite impressive. I hope I never have the opportunity to best your achievement. You need to tell us the story sometime. Then I'll tell you about my ejection story. Regards, Stan Sutterfield Do not archive I did do a 12 miles engine-out glide in my Rv-6A to a successful airport landing in Winchester, TN once (long story), but not quite the same - although, my heart rate may well have been equal. **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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