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4. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Retractable Rental (Bill Boyd)
5. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Retractable Rental (Randy Utsey)
6. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Retractable Rental (bill crothers)
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
Thanks for the info Joe.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility: 6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing on
that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating
for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating
for a paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane
plus take the checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass
at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and
instructor. Contact for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the
Concord branch.
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: lenleg@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Thanks for the info Joe.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
<jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA)
for
about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club
that is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility:
6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney
M20J's.
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the
Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training.
They also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm
guessing on
that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking
- so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has
monthly fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to
the type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
Randy,
Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"? Meaning something
greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc. Some of the Moonies and
Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the
high performance endorsement.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Utsey
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating for
your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a
paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the
checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through
www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor. Contact for
that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the Concord branch.
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Thanks for the info Joe.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that
is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility:
6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney
M20J's.
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the
Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They
also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm
guessing on
that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking -
so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly
fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the
type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating? Going to
be a CFI one day?
-Stormy
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
> Randy,
>
>
> Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"? Meaning something
> greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc. Some of the Moonies and
> Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the
> high performance endorsement.
>
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Bill
>
>
> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy Utsey
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
>
> Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
> designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
> requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating for
> your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a
> paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the
> checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through
> www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor. Contact
> for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the Concord branch.
>
>
> Randy Utsey
> D.J. Distributing Co.
> 1429 Bryant St.
> Charlotte, NC 28208
> 800-585-4126
>
>
> djdist@bellsouth.net
> www.djdist.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* lenleg@aol.com
>
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
>
> Thanks for the info Joe.
>
> Len
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
>
>
> I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
>
> about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that is
>
> very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility: 6500'
>
> runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
>
>
> If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.
>
> The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
>
> was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They also
>
> have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing
on
>
> that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so
>
> you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly fees
>
> and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type
>
> of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
>
>
> Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
>
> Joe
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221870#221870
>
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
Hi Bill, not called for in 61.129 / just retracts, flaps and a cs prop
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Repucci
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Randy,
Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"? Meaning
something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc. Some of the
Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the
complex, not the high performance endorsement.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bill
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Utsey
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating
for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating
for a paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane
plus take the checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass
at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and
instructor. Contact for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the
Concord branch.
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: lenleg@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Thanks for the info Joe.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
<jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA)
for
about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club
that is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility:
6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney
M20J's.
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the
Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training.
They also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm
guessing on
that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking
- so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has
monthly fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to
the type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds
something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI
card?!?! Get out of town.
I want what they're smoking. They must have broken out the good stuff
before the inauguration.
-Stormy
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ? oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for
> formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
> So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating? Going to
> be a CFI one day?
>
> -Stormy
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
>
>> Randy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"? Meaning something
>> greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc. Some of the Moonies and
>> Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the
>> high performance endorsement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy Utsey
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
>> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>
>>
>>
>> Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
>> designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
>> requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating for
>> your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a
>> paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the
>> checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through
>> www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor. Contact
>> for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the Concord branch.
>>
>>
>> Randy Utsey
>> D.J. Distributing Co.
>> 1429 Bryant St.
>> Charlotte, NC 28208
>> 800-585-4126
>>
>>
>>
>> djdist@bellsouth.net
>> www.djdist.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* lenleg@aol.com
>>
>> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info Joe.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
>>
>>
>> about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that
is
>>
>>
>> very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility: 6500'
>>
>>
>> runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.
>>
>>
>> The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
>>
>>
>> was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They
also
>>
>>
>> have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing
on
>>
>>
>> that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so
>>
>>
>> you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly fees
>>
>>
>> and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type
>>
>>
>> of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
We all need a good 'rant' before yr. end & that qualifies...shear stupidity
, but thats the FAA for you.- (Foolish Anal Arsholes).- Hope to seeya S
at. if the runway dries out.- these 50k winds today should help...=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmai
l.com>=0ATo: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, December 31,
2008 3:13:01 PM=0ASubject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental=0A
=0AYou have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds s
omething relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card
?!?!- Get out of town.=0A=0AI want what they're smoking.- They must hav
e broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.=0A=0A-Stormy=0A=0A=0AO
n Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com> wrote:
=0A=0AYou able to spring free Sat. for BBQ?- oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for
formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________
___________________=0AFrom: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> =0A=0ATo: rvsou
theast-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM
=0A=0ASubject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental=0A=0A=0ASo, Len
-what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?- Going to be a
CFI one day?=0A=0A-Stormy=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Rep
ucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:=0A=0ARandy,=0A-=0ADon't you also need a "H
igh performance endorsement"?- Meaning something greater than 200 HP, lik
e a Stearman, C-182, etc.- Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP eng
ines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endor
sement.=0A-=0APlease correct me if I'm wrong.=0ABill=0A-=0AFrom:owner-r
vsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey=0ASent: Wednesday, December 31, 200
8 10:51 AM=0ATo: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RVSouthEast-
List: Re: Retractable Rental=0A-=0ALen, another approach is to call Larry
Morris @ 704-786-6880.-He is a designated examiner out of Concord and wo
uld let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.
- Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from
someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.- You need 10 hrs o
f dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.- You can r
ent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 a
n hr plus fuel and instructor.- Contact for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333
.- He runs the Concord branch.- =0A=0ARandy Utsey=0AD.J. Distributing C
o.=0A1429 Bryant St.=0ACharlotte, NC- 28208=0A800-585-4126=0A-=0Adjdist
@bellsouth.net=0Awww.djdist.com=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom:lenl
eg@aol.com =0ATo:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com =0ASent:Wednesday, December
31, 2008 8:57 AM=0ASubject:Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental=0A
-=0AThanks for the info Joe.=0A=0ALen=0A-=0A-=0A-----Original Message
-----=0AFrom: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>=0ATo: rvsoutheast-list@matr
onics.com=0ASent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm=0ASubject: RVSouthEast-List: Re
<jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI am a member
of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for =0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0Aabout a year and I highly recommend the club.- It's a real activ
e club that is =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Avery professionally run with great inst
ructors at a fantastic facility:- 6500' =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Arunway, AWOS
and ILS at a non-controlled field.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI
f you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J
's.- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThe rates vary according to fuel cost, but the
last rate I have for the Mooney =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Awas $139.06, wet while
the instruction was $28 for advanced training.- They also =0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0Ahave a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I
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very close by - relatively speaking - so =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ayou needn't g
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aand requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is s
pecific to the type =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aof plane you rent (C152, C172, PA2
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
That will depend on the status of our house guests (honeymooners) as well as
the runway. Miriam is always up for BBQ at Carthage. And I need the excuse
to fly some before February... 50 kt winds are blowing tree branches all
over the runway.
I can't get my mind around how a pilot who can hold station on lead, perform
cross-unders, eschelon turns, pitch-outs and re-joins could not be able to
perform any commercial-test maneuvers with ease, but maybe. I feel better
knowing they are "doing it for the children." The sky would just plain fall
in without the FAA, wouldn't it.
Maybe I'm ranting because Lowe's sold out of the close-out-sale Pergo
flooring I wanted for my game room before I bought enough. Any excuse for a
rant will do.
-Stormy
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:30 PM, bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We all need a good 'rant' before yr. end & that qualifies...shear
> stupidity, but thats the FAA for you. (Foolish Anal Arsholes). Hope to
> seeya Sat. if the runway dries out. these 50k winds today should help...
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
> You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds
> something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI
> card?!?! Get out of town.
>
> I want what they're smoking. They must have broken out the good stuff
> before the inauguration.
>
> -Stormy
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ? oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for
>> formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>
>> So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating? Going to
>> be a CFI one day?
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Randy,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"? Meaning something
>>> greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc. Some of the Moonies and
>>> Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the
>>> high performance endorsement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>>> owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy Utsey
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
>>> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880. He is a
>>> designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would
>>> requre for the rating with your experience. Getting a commercial rating for
>>> your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a
>>> paying flying job. You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the
>>> checkride in the same. You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through
>>> www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor. Contact
>>> for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333. He runs the Concord branch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Randy Utsey
>>> D.J. Distributing Co.
>>> 1429 Bryant St.
>>> Charlotte, NC 28208
>>> 800-585-4126
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> djdist@bellsouth.net
>>> www.djdist.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> *From:* lenleg@aol.com
>>>
>>> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info Joe.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
>>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that
is
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility: 6500'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They
also
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing
on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking -
so
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly fees
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the
type
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221870#221870
>>>
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comm rating not required to fly formation... but is required for getting co
mpensated :)- apparently the FAA considers getting free fuel and hotel ro
oms at airshows as compensation.... =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________
________=0AFrom: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>=0ATo: rvsoutheast-list@mat
ronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM=0ASubject: Re: R
VSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental=0A=0AYou have got to be kidding me.
.. "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualific
ations already required to get an FFI card?!?!- Get out of town.=0A=0AI w
ant what they're smoking.- They must have broken out the good stuff befor
e the inauguration.=0A=0A-Stormy=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable Rental |
Ah, now I get it. Fuel, hotel rooms, show girls - they're on to you, Len.
Time to re-negotiate the airshow contracts until you get that commercial
rating. Don't forget to report that stuff on your form 1040 ;-)
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Rad Z <microsmurfer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> comm rating not required to fly formation... but is required for getting
> compensated :) apparently the FAA considers getting free fuel and hotel
> rooms at airshows as compensation....
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> *To:* rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
>
> You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds
> something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI
> card?!?! Get out of town.
>
> I want what they're smoking. They must have broken out the good stuff
> before the inauguration.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
> *
>
>
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Thanks Randy ... will look into that.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Utsey <randy@djdist.com>
Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:50 am
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris @
704-786-6880.?He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you
know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.? Getting a
commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs
the rating for a paying flying job.? You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex
plane plus take the checkride in the same.? You can rent the C172 RG
Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus
fuel and instructor.? Contact for that is Aubrey @ 704-788-9333.? He
runs the Concord branch.?
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte,
NC? 28208
800-585-4126
?
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From:
lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57
AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re:
Retractable Rental
Thanks for the info
Joe.
Len
-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
Sent:
Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable
Rental
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
about a year and I highly recommend the club. It's a real active club that is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility: 6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training. They also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing on
that. Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace. The club has monthly fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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Just formation !!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?? Going to be a
CFI one day?
-Stormy
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
Randy,
?
Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"??
Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.? Some
of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the
complex, not the high performance endorsement.
?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bill
?
From:
owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Utsey
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
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Len,
another approach is to call Larry Morris @ 704-786-6880.?He is a
designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre
for the rating with your experience.? Getting a commercial rating for your
purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying
flying job.? You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the
checkride in the same.? You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord
through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00
an hr plus fuel and instructor.? Contact for that is Aubrey @
704-788-9333.? He runs the Concord branch.?
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC? 28208
800-585-4126
?
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
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Original Message -----
From: lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December
31, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re:
RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
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Thanks for
the info Joe.
Len
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jsumakeris <jsumakeris@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Retractable Rental
I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for
about a year and I highly recommend the club.? It's a real active club that is
very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility:? 6500'
runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.
If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.?
The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney
was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training.? They also
have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing on
that.? Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so
you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace.? The club has monthly fees
and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type
of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).
Good luck to you with whichever route you take,
Joe
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