---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/24/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: is not the same now....is me? (Jim Higgins) 2. 05:35 AM - Race To Ridgeland (lee.logan@gulfstream.com) 3. 07:24 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 04/23/09 (Roger Kemp M.D.) 4. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 04/23/09 (bert murillo) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:03 AM PST US From: "Jim Higgins" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: is not the same now....is me? I thought maybe a problem with rigging if it was first flight after paint. Jim Higgins A-1 Roofing & Siding, LLC 704-995-7081 mobile www.a1roofingandsiding.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: is not the same now....is me? Jim: No I have 40 hrs. since painted, why? --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Jim Higgins wrote: From: Jim Higgins > Was this the first flight after your paint job? Jim Higgins A-1 Roofing & Siding, LLC 704-995-7081 mobile www.a1roofingandsiding.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Mauledriver Watson Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: is not the same now....is me? > If it is feeling light on the controls and tending to wander in all axiis - CG is the first thing I would check. I am not an experienced RV flyer or test pilot. But that's what a rearward CG feels like. Be careful not to load anything in the back until you sort out what's going on. If it is CG, that could be more than exciting. Bill Watson bertrv6@cfl.rr.com wrote: > > > > Hello: > > I finally had my rv6a painted some months ago. I just finished installing the wheel pants, except for > the fairings, legs/to fuselage and legs to wheel pants/ > > I was anxious to flight and thought that I would notice, the increase in speed, and maybe smoother flight? > > Well to my surprise, what I found was that the plane is not stable now, I had to use the stick constantly > to keep level flight... there was no wind, 5MPh, straight down the run way... > > Start as soon as is airborn, is like a different plane now...Does any one has any idea what is happening? > I was very concious, on the second flight, to check that I was not the cause of it, I could not understand > why I would, whe I expected the opposite, I have now 90 hours on my plane. > > Does any one have any idea, or suggestions, I feel I am in a different plane.. > > > thanks > > bert > rv6a > > do not archive > > > http://forums.sp; - List Contribution Web Sbsp; > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:02 AM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Race To Ridgeland From: lee.logan@gulfstream.com Everyone is cordially invited to the fourth annual Race To Ridgeland to be held Saturday after next, 2 May. This years "R2R" will feature two races, the Palmetto 125, a Sport Aircraft Racing League points event which will launch at 0800 and the "Race To Ridgeland" itself which launches at 0900. Our popular Spot Landing contest will start at 1200 and we are adding a balloon busting event a little later in the day. Food, beverages, T-shirts, and caps will all be available with the proceeds going to a local church youth group. It is an official Civil Air Patrol event as well and a number of Cadets will attend and assist with the event. The R2R is sponsored by the Jasper County Aeronautics Commission and is supported by local police, fire, and EMS units. Please join us for a great day. See www.racetoridgeland.com for more details. P.S. Anyone who would like to do an RV formation demo will be more than welcome. Let me know!! Regards and fun flying to all! Lee... 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If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:10 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 04/23/09 Need more info on the control inputs you required to maintain a level attitude. Certainly taking the wheel pants off would be the first step if that is all that changed since your last flight. Was the first flight after coming out of the paint shop? If so I would check all the rigging along with check the balance on all your control surfaces. The little stick on weights could have been removed, fallen off, or not fully replaced if removed. Reweighing your plane and doing a new weight and balance on your aircraft if certainly a consideration also. As the mauledriver said, a aft CG will certainly make her more twitchy on the controls. Increases your cruise speed and tightens your turn radius but with that comes the risk of a quicker departure with an ensuing flat spin that you probably can't recover from. Lurking YAK-50 Driver, Roger "Doc" Kemp YAK 50 N78YK From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: is not the same now....is me? If it is feeling light on the controls and tending to wander in all axiis - CG is the first thing I would check. I am not an experienced RV flyer or test pilot. But that's what a rearward CG feels like. Be careful not to load anything in the back until you sort out what's going on. If it is CG, that could be more than exciting. Bill Watson bertrv6@cfl.rr.com wrote: > > > Hello: > > I finally had my rv6a painted some months ago. I just finished installing the wheel pants, except for > the fairings, legs/to fuselage and legs to wheel pants/ > > I was anxious to flight and thought that I would notice, the increase in speed, and maybe smoother flight? > > Well to my surprise, what I found was that the plane is not stable now, I had to use the stick constantly > > Does any one have any idea, or suggestions, I feel I am in a different plane.. > > > thanks > > bert > rv6a > > do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:55 PM PST US From: bert murillo Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 04/23/09 Thnaks for the info.- I was thinking of doing just that, if by removing p ants, do not reflect any change.. the questions is , how can things change suddenly, when for the past 40 or so hours, everything has been well, and nothing has been touch, or changed... but, th ings can change by itself I* guess. - bert rv6A --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote: From: Roger Kemp M.D. Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 04/23/09 ing.com> Need more info on the control inputs you required to maintain a level attitude. Certainly taking the wheel pants off would be the first step if that is all that changed since your last flight. Was the first flight after coming out of the paint shop? If so I would check all the rigging along wit h check the balance on all your control surfaces. The little stick on weights could have been removed, fallen off, or not fully replaced if removed. Reweighing your plane and doing a new weight and balance on your aircraft i f certainly a consideration also. As the mauledriver said, a aft CG will certainly make her more twitchy on the controls. Increases your cruise spee d and tightens your turn radius but with that comes the risk of a quicker departure with an ensuing flat spin that you probably can't recover from. Lurking YAK-50 Driver, Roger "Doc" Kemp YAK 50 N78YK From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: is not the same now....is me? If it is feeling light on the controls and tending to wander in all axiis - CG is the first thing I would check. I am not an experienced RV flyer or test pilot.- But that's what a rearward CG feels like. Be careful not to load anything in the back until you sort out what's going on.- If it is CG, that could be more than exciting. Bill Watson bertrv6@cfl.rr.com wrote: > > > Hello: > >---I finally had my rv6a painted some months ago. I just finished installing the wheel pants, except for > the fairings, legs/to fuselage and legs to wheel pants/ > > I was anxious to flight and thought that I would notice, the increase in speed, and maybe smoother flight? > > Well to my surprise, what I found was that the plane is not stable now, I had to use the stick constantly > > Does any one have any idea, or suggestions, I feel I am in a different plane.. > > > thanks > > bert > rv6a > > do not archive > > >--- le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.