---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/28/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:52 AM - Re: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. (Greg Vouga) 2. 07:39 AM - Re: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. (Andrew Zachar) 3. 12:59 PM - Re: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. (Bill Mauledriver Watson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. From: Greg Vouga Your welcome to take a look at mine. I'm based at 5W5 just south of Raleigh. I've found on my panel that everything on the right 1/3 of the panel is difficult to see and use especially in flight. My radios are fine, but the EFIS, CB's and IPOD (not shown) are a pain to read and adjust even in slight turbulence. I pull the electronic aproach plates up on my right screen during instrument approaches, but they are not ideal since they are so far away. Adjusting a radio at that distance would probably be equally annoying. My suggestion for your panel is to squeeze everything together more if possible. This would obviously require different equipment choices, but maybe just opting for smaller EFIS screens. I've found that using the 3 view on my AFS display works really well for me and doesn't seem too small. With two small screens you would have even more room than I do on one screen split into EFIS, Engine Mon., and Map. Greg RV-7A On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Zachar wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > I was wondering if anyone in the piedmont triad area (out to western > Raleigh or northern Charlotte) would be so kind as to let me come sit in > your RV-7 (or -7A). > > I'm just finishing up the empennage kit, and my wing kit is scheduled for > August delivery, but I've been dreaming of my panel for awhile and am > looking to lay my eyes on a real panel. (I'm trying to answer some switch > reachability and panel height (knees) questions.) > > I will, of course, take my shoes off (but I'll leave my socks on, for both > of our sakes). > > In exchange for your kindness, you'll get to hear me tell the following > joke in person: > > *Why, when ducks fly in a v formation, is one side of the v longer?...<** > awkward silence>...**Because there are more ducks on that side.* > > Also, just for fun, I've attached a rough draft of my panel (you can see > that I think money grows on trees.) > > Of course, thank you in advance. > -- > Andrew Zachar > andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. From: Andrew Zachar Hey Greg (and everyone) I've actually seen your panel plenty of times at EAA 1114 and at the Mid-Atlantic Fly-in, etc. It's a great panel, but it was only after this weekend, when I actually go to sit in an RV-7( http://n999za.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/sat-in-my-first-rv-7/) that I've realized how close the panel is to the pilot. The proximity (while not necessarily a bad thing) definitely does make the angle of view to the right side of the panel pretty large (small?). Unless things are anlged toward the pilot, you are absolutely right...they won't be that usable for flight-critical information. I am now thinking about down-sizing to some 7-inch screens, both left of the radio stack, which can now be moved closer to center, or moving the stack to the center, and putting a 10-inch screen on either side, directly in front of each seat (A great example of this layout, with the SkyViews, is on the VAF frontpage today... http://vansairforce.net/delete_eventually/9fd8g98fdg8g7.jpg) The question now is will teh engine monitoring stuff be usable on the left quarter of the copilot display, or will it need to be on the right quarter of the pilot display. (And is the moving map usable enough over there. I don't want a setup like this if I end up putting all three on the pilot's PFD all the time.) Most importantly, the far right side of the panel does not seem like an ideal place for a backup display (as shown in my original concept). That'll have to come over to the left side of the panel somewhere. The best thing is...I am still at least two years away from actually starting on the panel. There will be all new equipment out by then, and you'll all get to see me ponder this stuff again at that time. Lucky you guys... Now, I need to finish up this trim tab so I can start on the wings (sloooooow buuuuuiiiiiiild) in August. Thank you to everyone for listening, and a special thank you to David Lee for letting me come see his airplane yesterday (and all of the rest of you for your offers, as well...I still might take you up on them!) -az On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Greg Vouga wrote: > Your welcome to take a look at mine. I'm based at 5W5 just south of > Raleigh. > > I've found on my panel that everything on the right 1/3 of the panel is > difficult to see and use especially in flight. My radios are fine, but the > EFIS, CB's and IPOD (not shown) are a pain to read and adjust even in slight > turbulence. I pull the electronic aproach plates up on my right screen > during instrument approaches, but they are not ideal since they are so far > away. Adjusting a radio at that distance would probably be equally > annoying. > > My suggestion for your panel is to squeeze everything together more if > possible. This would obviously require different equipment choices, but > maybe just opting for smaller EFIS screens. I've found that using the 3 > view on my AFS display works really well for me and doesn't seem too small. > With two small screens you would have even more room than I do on one screen > split into EFIS, Engine Mon., and Map. > > Greg > RV-7A > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Zachar wrote: > >> Good morning everyone, >> >> I was wondering if anyone in the piedmont triad area (out to western >> Raleigh or northern Charlotte) would be so kind as to let me come sit in >> your RV-7 (or -7A). >> >> I'm just finishing up the empennage kit, and my wing kit is scheduled for >> August delivery, but I've been dreaming of my panel for awhile and am >> looking to lay my eyes on a real panel. (I'm trying to answer some switch >> reachability and panel height (knees) questions.) >> >> I will, of course, take my shoes off (but I'll leave my socks on, for both >> of our sakes). >> >> In exchange for your kindness, you'll get to hear me tell the following >> joke in person: >> >> *Why, when ducks fly in a v formation, is one side of the v longer?...<** >> awkward silence>...**Because there are more ducks on that side.* >> >> Also, just for fun, I've attached a rough draft of my panel (you can see >> that I think money grows on trees.) >> >> Of course, thank you in advance. >> -- >> Andrew Zachar >> andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com >> > > -- Andrew Zachar andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:28 PM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Almost finished with tail...dreaming of panel...looking to sit in an RV-7. That's a really good looking panel! Bill Watson 8NC8 RV10 - finishing Greg Vouga wrote: > Your welcome to take a look at mine. I'm based at 5W5 just south of > Raleigh. > > I've found on my panel that everything on the right 1/3 of the panel > is difficult to see and use especially in flight. My radios are fine, > but the EFIS, CB's and IPOD (not shown) are a pain to read and adjust > even in slight turbulence. I pull the electronic aproach plates up on > my right screen during instrument approaches, but they are not ideal > since they are so far away. Adjusting a radio at that distance would > probably be equally annoying. > > My suggestion for your panel is to squeeze everything together more if > possible. This would obviously require different equipment choices, > but maybe just opting for smaller EFIS screens. I've found that using > the 3 view on my AFS display works really well for me and doesn't seem > too small. With two small screens you would have even more room than > I do on one screen split into EFIS, Engine Mon., and Map. > > Greg > RV-7A > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Zachar > > wrote: > > Good morning everyone, > > I was wondering if anyone in the piedmont triad area (out to > western Raleigh or northern Charlotte) would be so kind as to let > me come sit in your RV-7 (or -7A). > > I'm just finishing up the empennage kit, and my wing kit is > scheduled for August delivery, but I've been dreaming of my panel > for awhile and am looking to lay my eyes on a real panel. (I'm > trying to answer some switch reachability and panel height (knees) > questions.) > > I will, of course, take my shoes off (but I'll leave my socks on, > for both of our sakes). > > In exchange for your kindness, you'll get to hear me tell the > following joke in person: > > /Why, when ducks fly in a v formation, is one side of the v > longer?......//Because there are more ducks on > that side./ > > Also, just for fun, I've attached a rough draft of my panel (you > can see that I think money grows on trees.) > > Of course, thank you in advance. > -- > Andrew Zachar > andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rvsoutheast-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.