---------------------------------------------------------- Seaplane-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/02/06: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:18 AM - Re: Seaplane-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/01/06 (peterc@pipcom.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:13 AM PST US From: peterc@pipcom.com Subject: Seaplane-List: Re: Seaplane-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/01/06 --> Seaplane-List message posted by: peterc@pipcom.com If anyone is interested, I'm getting a set of fittings together for my future Rans S7S and could get more than one set made if needed. Let me know if you are interested. Most of the fittings would adapt to other aircraft. peterc@pipcom.com The set will include the two upper forward fuselage stub gear/U brackets, two rear wrap around 3 bolt rear brackets, 8 pivoting plates, 8 clevis ends to fit 1" inside streamline tube (for four main struts), 4 clevis ends to fit two 3/4" inside streamline tube for diagonals. It could also include the diagonal wire braces and if you didn't want to order your own, the streamline tube. What I haven't listed are the four float top fittings which are already on my floats and receive the 1" square pivoting bracket mentioned above. The design of this setup gives a totally adjustable set of rigging that would accomodate different float spreads, different fore and aft positioning, different fuselage widths and different height above the floats than I am using so could be adapted (except maybe for the forward gear stub} to a lot of other aircraft. The stub probably would work on the S-6. The reason for the flexibility is that each of the 8 main attach points pivot in two directions (laterally and fore/aft). There are no fixed angles cut into or welded into the brackets. At this point all of the material is either stainless or aluminum. Price to be worked out. Peter > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Seaplane-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Seaplane-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/seaplane-list/Digest.Seaplane-List.2006-08-01.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/seaplane-list/Digest.Seaplane-List.2006-08-01.txt > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Seaplane-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 08/01/06: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 11:31 PM - Official Seaplane-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) > (Matt Dralle) > 2. 11:47 PM - Official Seaplane-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:31:59 PM PST US > Wrom: LBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCR > Subject: Seaplane-List: Official Seaplane-List FAQ (Frequently Asked > Questions) > > --> Seaplane-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > Dear Listers, > > Please read over the Seaplane-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. > The > complete Seaplane-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at > the > following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Seaplane-List.FAQ.html > > Thank you, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such > as > Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting > errors. ] > > > This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Seaplane-List.htm > > > ************************************************************ > ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ******* > ************************************************************ > > > PLEASE READ. This document contains Seaplane-List policies and > information > for new and old subscribers. Understanding the Seaplane-List policies > will > minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the > Seaplane-List > running smoothly for all of us. > > > ****************************************** > *** Quick Start Guide to List Features *** > ****************************************** > > There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each > one is described in detailed below. 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This is done in real time and will not slow down > the process of posting the message !! > > > Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these > rules > > could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the > Lists. > > 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files > you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that > there > are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you > post > 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on > these > folks and the rest of us, for that matter. > > 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000 > pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just > unacceptable. 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Please include your name, email address, > aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line > about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid > bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary > space in the archive. > > - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is > easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the > web page or FAQ first. > > - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of > your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it > easy to find threads in the archive. > > - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your > response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the > reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that > quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive > can not be overstated! > > - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT > then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the > "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your > response to the original poster. You might have to actively address > your response with the original poster's email address. > > - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something > to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I > agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent > to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. > > - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to > comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly > contribute something valuable. > > - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone > polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack > other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously > controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that > will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. > > - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly > subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by > List members promoting their respective products or items for sale > should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble > a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but > is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to > everyone, including those who provide products to the entire > community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the > operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. > > ------- > > > [This is an automated posting.] > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:47:49 PM PST US > From: Matt Dralle > Subject: Seaplane-List: Official Seaplane-List Usage Guidelines > > --> Seaplane-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > Dear Listers, > > Please read over the Seaplane-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete > Seaplane-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the > following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Seaplane-List.FAQ.html > > Thank you, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > ****************************************************************************** > Seaplane-List Usage Guidelines > ****************************************************************************** > > The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Seaplane-List. > You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules > therein. > Failure to use the Seaplane-List in the manner described below may result > in the removal of the subscribers from the List. > > > Seaplane-List Policy Statement > > The purpose of the Seaplane-List is to provide a forum of discussion for > things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals > are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver > high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie > among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals > requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of > the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: > > > - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit > posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long > lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. > > - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be > relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. > > - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive > that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise > and > terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and > responses. > > - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, > aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line > about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid > bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary > space in the archive. > > - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is > easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the > web page or FAQ first. > > - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of > your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it > easy to find threads in the archive. > > - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your > response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the > reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that > quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive > can not be overstated! > > - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT > then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the > "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your > response to the original poster. You might have to actively address > your response with the original poster's email address. > > - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something > to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I > agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent > to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. > > - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to > comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly > contribute something valuable. > > - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone > polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack > other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously > controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that > will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. > > - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly > subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by > List members promoting their respective products or items for sale > should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble > a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but > is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to > everyone, including those who provide products to the entire > community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the > operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. > > ------- > > > [This is an automated posting.] > >