---------------------------------------------------------- Sonerai-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/02/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:13 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) 2. 04:31 AM - Re: Questions (Carlton, Raymond \) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:06 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Sonerai-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Sonerai-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Lister, Please read over the Sonerai-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Sonerai-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Sonerai-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Sonerai-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Sonerai-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Sonerai-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Sonerai-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Sonerai-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. 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This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.] ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:39 AM PST US Subject: RE: Sonerai-List: Questions From: "Carlton, Raymond \"Buck\"" --> Sonerai-List message posted by: "Carlton, Raymond \"Buck\"" Hi Al/Brett, I just bought a Sonerai 1 Thanksgiving (N100X) with an 1835cc and was wondering the same thing about the carb heat question. Would be interested in how you are going to install same on your plane. Buck Carlton California, MD (about 50 miles SE of DC) (301) 866-9170 (H) -----Original Message----- From: owner-sonerai-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-sonerai-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Ray Subject: Re: Sonerai-List: Questions --> Sonerai-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" Good choice! Because you do need it with a VW they will freeze. > --> Sonerai-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > > Hi Brett, > > It's a 1835 VW and when Monday comes it will have a carb heat system. > > Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brett Ray" > To: > Subject: Re: Sonerai-List: Questions > > > > --> Sonerai-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" > > > > What kind of engine is in it? It can never hurt to have it but some > > engines don't need it. > > > > > --> Sonerai-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > > > > > > I hope this e-mail is reaching someone, I don't recall seeing any > > traffic since I joined. > > > > > > I have a Sonerai 1 in our shop at this time, it was built and flown > > for 56 hours according to the log books > > > and 88 hours by the Hobbs. The last log entry was 1996, I was told a > > few days ago that the guy that built > > > it on his last flight had to crash land it to get it back on the > > ground, he worked on it for a while after that but > > > never got the nerve to fly it again. While I find this quite odd > > anything is possible I guess, but we all know > > > how stories can get, especially over the course of several years. > > > > > > It was bought by a fellow from Illinois and this is how it found > > it's way into our shop. During my inspections > > > I have found a ton of stuff that ranges from "you got to be kidding" > > to just down right stupid and dangerous. > > > One thing that causes me great concern is the lack of any type of > > carb heat system. In a conversation with > > > the new owner I was informed that this is "NORMAL" for these > > aircraft. I've been a pilot and mechanic for 30 > > > years now and I have a very hard time with this information. What is > > the general consciences of the owners > > > here on the list? Personally I have already started building a carb > > heat box for the plane and will not sign off > > > the annual unless it is installed. > > > > > > Thank you for your time and information on this matter. > > > > > > Al Latham > > > Golden Aviation > > > > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Thanks > > Brett Ray > > owner Hog Air > > > > > > > _- ======================================================================= = > _- ======================================================================= = > _- ======================================================================= = > _- ======================================================================= = > > > > > > -- Thanks Brett Ray owner Hog Air