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1. 02:32 AM - List Fund Raiser - New Gift Addition! (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:40 AM - Re: Belt rumble vibration (Weston, Jim)
3. 07:20 AM - Re: Belt rumble vibration (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Belt rumble vibration (Weston, Jim)
5. 08:04 AM - Re: Belt rumble vibration (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
6. 08:21 AM - Re: Belt rumble vibration (Weston, Jim)
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Subject: | Belt rumble vibration |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
This subject is interesting to me. I've had the same problem for about
5 years now. I've tried a lot of different things. The only thing that
seems to affect it is changing the belt tension. I remember that it
used to run very smooth when I first started using the engine after
receiving it from Stratus. I also remember that the belt was very tight
as compared to the way that I set it. I've never tried setting it very
tight again, since I'm concerned about damaging the bearings. I believe
that the secret is to run the belt tight enough, but I'm just not crazy
about tightening it any more, since it tightens more once the engine
heats up. I check the tension with the engine hot. By the way, my
vibration is also from 2500 to 2800, just where I'd like to run the rpm
on approach. I do the same and avoid this RPM band.
Jim Weston
Concord, Ga.
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Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" <meiste@essex1.com>
still a rumble, vibration band at 2500 to 2800 rpm
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Larry,
I get the same vib's but mine is about 3,300 RPM, so I also simply try
to avoid that setting if possible. As nothing I found makes it go away.
Kelly
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Subject: | Belt rumble vibration |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Check the carb balance....That helped a little bit.
After that and still having the rum-rum vibration I went and had the
prop dynamically balanced....Wow! What a difference.
Frank
Stratus with Ram heads 347 hours
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
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Subject: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
--> <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I've been chasing a pulse thinking the engine was missing because it
vibrates a bit when it's cold and the pulse is felt until things warm
up. After replacing the rotor, cap, plugs and checking coils and wires,
it runs well warm, but there is still a rumble, vibration band at 2500
to 2800 rpm that seems a bit intense. Above and below that band
everything sounds smooth. Am I looking at the difference between the
seasonal warm of recent and the cold which is only 30-40 degrees cooler?
It doesn't change when running off the A-distributor ignition or
B-flywheel ignition, so perhaps it's the belt or my mixture. Still a
60-70 degree difference in EGTs, right being higher. Belt is snug to
spec and the prop is tracking within 1/32" each blade, but there's still
more vibration than I'd like to fly with.
Any ideas on this? I feel like I've missed something here.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus at 45 hours and holding.
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Subject: | Belt rumble vibration |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
Frank,
Thanks for the feedback on dynamic balance. I've been assuming that my
problem with the rumble at 2500 to 2800 was with belt tension. It used
to be very smooth, but has rumbled for some time now with nothing
helping. I wonder how I could have gotten out of balance when it used
to be so smooth.
Jim
Stratus with 226 hours.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Check the carb balance....That helped a little bit.
After that and still having the rum-rum vibration I went and had the
prop dynamically balanced....Wow! What a difference.
Frank
Stratus with Ram heads 347 hours
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
--> <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I've been chasing a pulse thinking the engine was missing because it
vibrates a bit when it's cold and the pulse is felt until things warm
up. After replacing the rotor, cap, plugs and checking coils and wires,
it runs well warm, but there is still a rumble, vibration band at 2500
to 2800 rpm that seems a bit intense. Above and below that band
everything sounds smooth. Am I looking at the difference between the
seasonal warm of recent and the cold which is only 30-40 degrees cooler?
It doesn't change when running off the A-distributor ignition or
B-flywheel ignition, so perhaps it's the belt or my mixture. Still a
60-70 degree difference in EGTs, right being higher. Belt is snug to
spec and the prop is tracking within 1/32" each blade, but there's still
more vibration than I'd like to fly with.
Any ideas on this? I feel like I've missed something here.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus at 45 hours and holding.
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Subject: | Belt rumble vibration |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I never came up with an acceptable reason in my own mind either. Just
because, I changed the belt and replaced the prop bearings at 300 hours
as well (they are cheap enough and by the time you got the belt off its
only another 1.5 hours to have the bearings changed out)...Put it all
back together...Yup rum-rum was still there and it varied with belt
tension.
Like you I realised that 1/8th deflection at 20 lbs is VERY
tight...Didn't like it so I put up with the rum-rum.
Checked the blade angles...all good and went to the dynamic balancer.
The flight home was the smoothest ever (also got the Wife a test flight
in the RV 7A at Van's factory as it was on the way.. Yes she did
approve....:).
The vibration was not that bad, the trouble was I was still gun shy of
the motor dropping a valve guide even though I know in my head its been
fixed for good. So my head would play tricks...Oh no...its just got
worse...It always got worse over big towns,water or mountains....Hmmmm
No no more vibes (well very small) and I fly more at ease.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weston,
Jim
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
Frank,
Thanks for the feedback on dynamic balance. I've been assuming that my
problem with the rumble at 2500 to 2800 was with belt tension. It used
to be very smooth, but has rumbled for some time now with nothing
helping. I wonder how I could have gotten out of balance when it used
to be so smooth.
Jim
Stratus with 226 hours.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Check the carb balance....That helped a little bit.
After that and still having the rum-rum vibration I went and had the
prop dynamically balanced....Wow! What a difference.
Frank
Stratus with Ram heads 347 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
--> <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I've been chasing a pulse thinking the engine was missing because it
vibrates a bit when it's cold and the pulse is felt until things warm
up. After replacing the rotor, cap, plugs and checking coils and wires,
it runs well warm, but there is still a rumble, vibration band at 2500
to 2800 rpm that seems a bit intense. Above and below that band
everything sounds smooth. Am I looking at the difference between the
seasonal warm of recent and the cold which is only 30-40 degrees cooler?
It doesn't change when running off the A-distributor ignition or
B-flywheel ignition, so perhaps it's the belt or my mixture. Still a
60-70 degree difference in EGTs, right being higher. Belt is snug to
spec and the prop is tracking within 1/32" each blade, but there's still
more vibration than I'd like to fly with.
Any ideas on this? I feel like I've missed something here.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus at 45 hours and holding.
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Subject: | Belt rumble vibration |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
Thanks Frank. I've had the same head problem (the one on my shoulders)
since having the valve guide problem. I've not had anymore problems,
since replacing the heads. But, psychologically it's still there,
particularly over water.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Belt rumble vibration
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I never came up with an acceptable reason in my own mind either. Just
because, I changed the belt and replaced the prop bearings at 300 hours
as well (they are cheap enough and by the time you got the belt off its
only another 1.5 hours to have the bearings changed out)...Put it all
back together...Yup rum-rum was still there and it varied with belt
tension.
Like you I realised that 1/8th deflection at 20 lbs is VERY
tight...Didn't like it so I put up with the rum-rum.
Checked the blade angles...all good and went to the dynamic balancer.
The flight home was the smoothest ever (also got the Wife a test flight
in the RV 7A at Van's factory as it was on the way.. Yes she did
approve....:).
The vibration was not that bad, the trouble was I was still gun shy of
the motor dropping a valve guide even though I know in my head its been
fixed for good. So my head would play tricks...Oh no...its just got
worse...It always got worse over big towns,water or mountains....Hmmmm
No no more vibes (well very small) and I fly more at ease.
Frank
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