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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Consuming Oil (Don Walker)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: Consuming Oil (Kelly Meiste)
3. 07:53 AM - Re: Consuming Oil (Larry McFarland)
4. 12:26 PM - ignition failure (Don Walker)
5. 02:31 PM - Re: ignition failure (Larry McFarland)
6. 02:49 PM - Re: ignition failure (Don Walker)
7. 08:51 PM - Belt Failure (rueffy@jetthrust.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Consuming Oil |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
Hey Bill,
I bought mine from Reiner about the time you did. Reiner told me personally that
he wouldn't be surprised if the engines got close to 3000 hours. Of course
he also told me my engine was "perfect". Then came the three valve guide failures,
etc.
Mine has cylinders .020 oversize. No oil consumption. don walker
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morelli<mailto:billvt@together.net>
To: stratus-list<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Consuming Oil
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net<mailto:billvt@together.net>>
Hey Stratus guys,
My Stratus has been consuming oil for a good amount of time. It is using about
1 quart every 6 hours of hobbs time. The engine has 432 hours on it. This is
not a new issue but I'm trying to figure what I will do if it gets much worse.
Engine had RAM heads installed at 261 hours.
The last time I checked compression (at 378 hours) all was good. Compressions
were about where they had always been. It was burning oil at that time.
This engine was built up by Reiner just before Mykal bought the company. Not
sure if he did things any differently than Mykal.
Before I try and contact Mykal, I wanted to ask some questions of you guys.
- Is anyone else having an oil consumtion issue?
- Does anyone know if ther was ever a TBO estimate placed on the Stratus?
- When these engines are built up for aircraft use, do they get bored out and
fittted with oversize pistons? That would probably preclude the ability to bore
it out again!! I would like to know what I can do to the cylinders if anything.
Anyway, the thing is running great and still has plenty of power as it always
has. The last time I cleaned the bottom of the aircraft was during my annual
at 378 hours and now the bottom is pretty coated with exhaust crud.
Regards,
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Consuming Oil |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
> - Is anyone else having an oil consumtion issue?
The last time I cleaned the bottom of the aircraft was during my annual at
378 hours and now the bottom is pretty coated with exhaust crud.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Bill,
My engine is still burning approx one oz of oil per hour of flight. Doesn't
matter if I'm running my summer 20W-50, or my winter 10W-30. Yeah my planes
exhaust side has the crub underneath also.
The maintenance guide I received with my engine only specifies "countless
hours of enjoyment" (maintenance guide stops after 1,500 enjoyable hours).
Kelly
(125 somewhat enjoyable hours)
do not achieve
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| Subject: | Re: Consuming Oil |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bill,
I found a bit which might be of interest when checking compression.
(after removing all plugs and disconnecting coil wires) The Haynes
repair manual describes doing a compression check on each cylinder with
a threaded plug adapter pressure gage rather than the hand held type,
and cranking 4 full compression strokes on each one. "Low pressure on
the first stroke with increasing pressure on successive strokes
indicates bad rings." "Low pressure on the first stroke with no
successive increase in pressure indicates leaking valves or head
gasket." You might also check the "pvc hose" that clears valve cover
pressure to the carb inlet as it may be sucking spray oil rather than
excess case atmosphere. Worn valve guides will sometimes cause smoke in
the exhaust at start up, but rings will smoke constantly, if at all. My
Stratus puts a thin oily soot on the belly of the plane that blackens
lead edges of my step tubes etc and consistently burns about 1/8 quart
each 10 hours of operation. I've only 70+ hours, so it's scarcely
enough time to know more. On the 601 Stratus Installation sheet, "Due
to its simple design, the Stratus EA81 is easy to operate with an
estimated TBO of 1,000 hours."
Larry McFarland
Bill Morelli wrote:
>--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net>
>
>Hey Stratus guys,
>
>My Stratus has been consuming oil for a good amount of time. It is using about
1 quart every 6 hours of hobbs time. The engine has 432 hours on it. This is
not a new issue but I'm trying to figure what I will do if it gets much worse.
>
>Engine had RAM heads installed at 261 hours.
>
>The last time I checked compression (at 378 hours) all was good. Compressions
were about where they had always been. It was burning oil at that time.
>
>This engine was built up by Reiner just before Mykal bought the company. Not sure
if he did things any differently than Mykal.
>
>Before I try and contact Mykal, I wanted to ask some questions of you guys.
>
>- Is anyone else having an oil consumtion issue?
>- Does anyone know if ther was ever a TBO estimate placed on the Stratus?
>- When these engines are built up for aircraft use, do they get bored out and
fittted with oversize pistons? That would probably preclude the ability to bore
it out again!! I would like to know what I can do to the cylinders if anything.
>
>Anyway, the thing is running great and still has plenty of power as it always
has. The last time I cleaned the bottom of the aircraft was during my annual at
378 hours and now the bottom is pretty coated with exhaust crud.
>
>Regards,
>Bill
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | ignition failure |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
Frank, Larry,
I took the coil wire and attached it directly to the primary coil instead of
the HV diode pack. Then held the distributor end next to the frame to check spark.
It's there. But it sparks when I turn on and off the ignition switch...not
when cranking the engine. Actually it sparks when I turn OFF the ignition switch.
Looks like this means the ignition module in the distributor is bad. What's
it sound like to you guys? don
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
Oh yes the standard subaru (ND)ignitor chips are pretty feeble...Its a
matter of when they fail rather than IF. I have heard a number of the
back up ignitions failing as well.
Sounds like a weak spark, Have you checked the reluctor gap? Usually if
the chip is going to fail it either works or it doesn't. Seems this one
is working partially.
Are you sure all your wiring is intact?..For example the wire from the
ignition switch? Have you tried connecting the battery directly to the
igntion?
This would remove the ignition switch and wiring from the equation.
Yes you could change the coils over too, and remove the HV diode pack by
connecting the coil directly to the rotor cap.
Good luck...Sounds like you should really get yourself a twin TP 45
setup. They are pretty easy to make.
I mounted 3 TP 45's on a plate on the firewall. The center chip is a
spare...If one fails away from home I simply unplug the bad one and move
it to the spare...Not that one has ever failed mind you.
Remember to keep the pickup you will need it (and a second one) to drive
the TP 45 module.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>
Each time (three) it has run long enough for me to run the rpm to 2000
to activate the alternator, then pull it back to about 1200 rpm, after
which it has died with no sputter. Now it is not firing at all. I
installed a new rotor and cap. Fuel pump is flowing full. Plugs look
good. It is not a plug or plug wire since the whole system goes dead at
once.
The dual ignition is installed but the pick-up is disconnected. Both
coils are still connected to the ignition selector disc, but in effect I
have no secondary to check. Mine quit working at 40 hours right when
Stratus was sold and Mikel was not willing to replace the secondary
module, so I don't do business with him any more.
I think it may have cooled off a couple of times and allowed a
re-start, but repeated the same pattern. Now no fire. If it is a coil, I
have the secondary which only has 40 hrs on it. then again it may be
time to update the ignition from the stock Stratus stuff. I have heard
you say they are prone to failure, I think. don
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
I could be electrical...i.e something opening up with heat.
The usual mode of failure is the coil goes low resistance on the
primary
side and shorts out the ignitor chip...So you replave the chip ($300)
and it runs for 10 seconds and the faulty coil frys the new chip all
over again...Lovely!
This does not sound like the problem though...yet..:)
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
Possibly,
Do you have the second ignition installed?...if it dies on the second
ignition as well then it cannot be a coil or ignitor chip and must be
related to the distributor rotor/cap/wires or plugs.
If it runs OK on the second system it is either a ignotr chip, coil,
or
reluctor issue.
More details please.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
Walker
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
<d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>>
Okay Larry and Frank,
My 6 yr old Stratus is quitting on me this morning. It runs for a
minute or so and then dies. I have eliminated fuel as a problem. I
don't
think the distributor cap and wires are the problem, though I just
bought new ones today since they are original from 1999 with 370 hrs.
Am
I likely looking at a coil or a module in the distributor? don walker
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George
(Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
To:
stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra>
tus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:tus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
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| Subject: | Re: ignition failure |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Don,
Having circuit from ignition switch and coil, but not with the Module
suggests
this would be a good time to replace the module with a TP45. This
repair/conversion should not be hard if your wires are all accessible.
You're going to have to splice a pair of longer wires from your pickup
in the distributor to the TP45, so I'd suggest you need a small coil of
silver bearing solder (Radio Shack), shrink wrap and Tefzel wire.
A module failure does suggest a serious need for dual ignition, but I'd
make it go first with one TP45 and do conversion to dual as a separate
effort to keep the current electronic module rewire problems separate
from the logistics and effort of conversion to dual pickups.
Larry
Don Walker wrote:
>--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
>
>Frank, Larry,
> I took the coil wire and attached it directly to the primary coil instead of
the HV diode pack. Then held the distributor end next to the frame to check
spark. It's there. But it sparks when I turn on and off the ignition switch...not
when cranking the engine. Actually it sparks when I turn OFF the ignition
switch. Looks like this means the ignition module in the distributor is bad. What's
it sound like to you guys? don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
>
> Oh yes the standard subaru (ND)ignitor chips are pretty feeble...Its a
> matter of when they fail rather than IF. I have heard a number of the
> back up ignitions failing as well.
>
> Sounds like a weak spark, Have you checked the reluctor gap? Usually if
> the chip is going to fail it either works or it doesn't. Seems this one
> is working partially.
>
> Are you sure all your wiring is intact?..For example the wire from the
> ignition switch? Have you tried connecting the battery directly to the
> igntion?
>
> This would remove the ignition switch and wiring from the equation.
>
> Yes you could change the coils over too, and remove the HV diode pack by
> connecting the coil directly to the rotor cap.
>
> Good luck...Sounds like you should really get yourself a twin TP 45
> setup. They are pretty easy to make.
>
> I mounted 3 TP 45's on a plate on the firewall. The center chip is a
> spare...If one fails away from home I simply unplug the bad one and move
> it to the spare...Not that one has ever failed mind you.
>
> Remember to keep the pickup you will need it (and a second one) to drive
> the TP 45 module.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>
>
> Each time (three) it has run long enough for me to run the rpm to 2000
> to activate the alternator, then pull it back to about 1200 rpm, after
> which it has died with no sputter. Now it is not firing at all. I
> installed a new rotor and cap. Fuel pump is flowing full. Plugs look
> good. It is not a plug or plug wire since the whole system goes dead at
> once.
> The dual ignition is installed but the pick-up is disconnected. Both
> coils are still connected to the ignition selector disc, but in effect I
> have no secondary to check. Mine quit working at 40 hours right when
> Stratus was sold and Mikel was not willing to replace the secondary
> module, so I don't do business with him any more.
> I think it may have cooled off a couple of times and allowed a
> re-start, but repeated the same pattern. Now no fire. If it is a coil, I
> have the secondary which only has 40 hrs on it. then again it may be
> time to update the ignition from the stock Stratus stuff. I have heard
> you say they are prone to failure, I think. don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
>
> I could be electrical...i.e something opening up with heat.
>
> The usual mode of failure is the coil goes low resistance on the
> primary
> side and shorts out the ignitor chip...So you replave the chip ($300)
> and it runs for 10 seconds and the faulty coil frys the new chip all
> over again...Lovely!
>
> This does not sound like the problem though...yet..:)
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
> @matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
> Frank George (Corvallis)
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> --> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
>
> Possibly,
>
> Do you have the second ignition installed?...if it dies on the second
> ignition as well then it cannot be a coil or ignitor chip and must be
> related to the distributor rotor/cap/wires or plugs.
>
> If it runs OK on the second system it is either a ignotr chip, coil,
> or
> reluctor issue.
>
> More details please.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
> @matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Walker
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
> <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>>
>
> Okay Larry and Frank,
> My 6 yr old Stratus is quitting on me this morning. It runs for a
> minute or so and then dies. I have eliminated fuel as a problem. I
> don't
> think the distributor cap and wires are the problem, though I just
> bought new ones today since they are original from 1999 with 370 hrs.
> Am
> I likely looking at a coil or a module in the distributor? don walker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George
> (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
> To:
> stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra>
> tus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:tus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:40 AM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ignition failure |
--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
Good suggestion. I was kinda thinking in this direction. I have another distributor
and could build it up for dual while still flying if I do this replacement.
However the other distributor has the diffeen shaped reluctor I mentioned.
Not sure what that means.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry McFarland<mailto:larrymc@qconline.com>
To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: ignition failure
--> Stratus-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com<mailto:larrymc@qconline.com>>
Don,
Having circuit from ignition switch and coil, but not with the Module
suggests
this would be a good time to replace the module with a TP45. This
repair/conversion should not be hard if your wires are all accessible.
You're going to have to splice a pair of longer wires from your pickup
in the distributor to the TP45, so I'd suggest you need a small coil of
silver bearing solder (Radio Shack), shrink wrap and Tefzel wire.
A module failure does suggest a serious need for dual ignition, but I'd
make it go first with one TP45 and do conversion to dual as a separate
effort to keep the current electronic module rewire problems separate
from the logistics and effort of conversion to dual pickups.
Larry
Don Walker wrote:
>--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>
>
>Frank, Larry,
> I took the coil wire and attached it directly to the primary coil instead
of the HV diode pack. Then held the distributor end next to the frame to check
spark. It's there. But it sparks when I turn on and off the ignition switch...not
when cranking the engine. Actually it sparks when I turn OFF the ignition
switch. Looks like this means the ignition module in the distributor is bad.
What's it sound like to you guys? don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
>
> Oh yes the standard subaru (ND)ignitor chips are pretty feeble...Its a
> matter of when they fail rather than IF. I have heard a number of the
> back up ignitions failing as well.
>
> Sounds like a weak spark, Have you checked the reluctor gap? Usually if
> the chip is going to fail it either works or it doesn't. Seems this one
> is working partially.
>
> Are you sure all your wiring is intact?..For example the wire from the
> ignition switch? Have you tried connecting the battery directly to the
> igntion?
>
> This would remove the ignition switch and wiring from the equation.
>
> Yes you could change the coils over too, and remove the HV diode pack by
> connecting the coil directly to the rotor cap.
>
> Good luck...Sounds like you should really get yourself a twin TP 45
> setup. They are pretty easy to make.
>
> I mounted 3 TP 45's on a plate on the firewall. The center chip is a
> spare...If one fails away from home I simply unplug the bad one and move
> it to the spare...Not that one has ever failed mind you.
>
> Remember to keep the pickup you will need it (and a second one) to drive
> the TP 45 module.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com>>
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>>
>
> Each time (three) it has run long enough for me to run the rpm to 2000
> to activate the alternator, then pull it back to about 1200 rpm, after
> which it has died with no sputter. Now it is not firing at all. I
> installed a new rotor and cap. Fuel pump is flowing full. Plugs look
> good. It is not a plug or plug wire since the whole system goes dead at
> once.
> The dual ignition is installed but the pick-up is disconnected. Both
> coils are still connected to the ignition selector disc, but in effect I
> have no secondary to check. Mine quit working at 40 hours right when
> Stratus was sold and Mikel was not willing to replace the secondary
> module, so I don't do business with him any more.
> I think it may have cooled off a couple of times and allowed a
> re-start, but repeated the same pattern. Now no fire. If it is a coil, I
> have the secondary which only has 40 hrs on it. then again it may be
> time to update the ignition from the stock Stratus stuff. I have heard
> you say they are prone to failure, I think. don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>>
>
> I could be electrical...i.e something opening up with heat.
>
> The usual mode of failure is the coil goes low resistance on the
> primary
> side and shorts out the ignitor chip...So you replave the chip ($300)
> and it runs for 10 seconds and the faulty coil frys the new chip all
> over again...Lovely!
>
> This does not sound like the problem though...yet..:)
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
> Frank George (Corvallis)
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>>
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> --> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>>
>
> Possibly,
>
> Do you have the second ignition installed?...if it dies on the second
> ignition as well then it cannot be a coil or ignitor chip and must be
> related to the distributor rotor/cap/wires or plugs.
>
> If it runs OK on the second system it is either a ignotr chip, coil,
> or
> reluctor issue.
>
> More details please.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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> @matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Walker
> To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>>
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
>
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
> <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>>>
>
> Okay Larry and Frank,
> My 6 yr old Stratus is quitting on me this morning. It runs for a
> minute or so and then dies. I have eliminated fuel as a problem. I
> don't
> think the distributor cap and wires are the problem, though I just
> bought new ones today since they are original from 1999 with 370 hrs.
> Am
> I likely looking at a coil or a module in the distributor? don walker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hinde, Frank George
> (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>>
> To:
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> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:40 AM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
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--> Stratus-List message posted by: rueffy@jetthrust.com
Hi Gang. I was down from BC in Arlington today to check out a similar aircraft
to mine (not a stratus though). While I was talking to the guy he was telling
me about a buddy of his in Arlingotn with an Avid Flyer, stratus driven who is
the president of a chapter there. He reported a stratus belt failure 800ft off
the deck and was able to make a successfull 180 back to the runway. Apparently
it was at a mountainous airport.
We were talking about belt failures a couple of weeks ago and im not sure if I
remember reading about this one. Does anyone remember this occuring within the
last 12 months and perhaps if the guy is on this list he could share what if
anything he found that might have caused the failure? If no-one knows anything
on the list here I might chase the guy up and talk to him on the phone and post
what I find.
Cheerio
Brett
Quoting Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>:
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Don,
> Having circuit from ignition switch and coil, but not with the Module
> suggests
> this would be a good time to replace the module with a TP45. This
> repair/conversion should not be hard if your wires are all accessible.
> You're going to have to splice a pair of longer wires from your pickup
> in the distributor to the TP45, so I'd suggest you need a small coil of
> silver bearing solder (Radio Shack), shrink wrap and Tefzel wire.
> A module failure does suggest a serious need for dual ignition, but I'd
> make it go first with one TP45 and do conversion to dual as a separate
> effort to keep the current electronic module rewire problems separate
> from the logistics and effort of conversion to dual pickups.
>
> Larry
>
> Don Walker wrote:
>
> >--> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
> >
> >Frank, Larry,
> > I took the coil wire and attached it directly to the primary coil instead
> of the HV diode pack. Then held the distributor end next to the frame to
> check spark. It's there. But it sparks when I turn on and off the ignition
> switch...not when cranking the engine. Actually it sparks when I turn OFF the
> ignition switch. Looks like this means the ignition module in the distributor
> is bad. What's it sound like to you guys? don
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>
> > To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:00 PM
> > Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> >
> > --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
> >
> > Oh yes the standard subaru (ND)ignitor chips are pretty feeble...Its a
> > matter of when they fail rather than IF. I have heard a number of the
> > back up ignitions failing as well.
> >
> > Sounds like a weak spark, Have you checked the reluctor gap? Usually if
> > the chip is going to fail it either works or it doesn't. Seems this one
> > is working partially.
> >
> > Are you sure all your wiring is intact?..For example the wire from the
> > ignition switch? Have you tried connecting the battery directly to the
> > igntion?
> >
> > This would remove the ignition switch and wiring from the equation.
> >
> > Yes you could change the coils over too, and remove the HV diode pack by
> > connecting the coil directly to the rotor cap.
> >
> > Good luck...Sounds like you should really get yourself a twin TP 45
> > setup. They are pretty easy to make.
> >
> > I mounted 3 TP 45's on a plate on the firewall. The center chip is a
> > spare...If one fails away from home I simply unplug the bad one and move
> > it to the spare...Not that one has ever failed mind you.
> >
> > Remember to keep the pickup you will need it (and a second one) to drive
> > the TP 45 module.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
>
owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com>
> > [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
> > To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> > --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
> <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>
> >
> > Each time (three) it has run long enough for me to run the rpm to 2000
> > to activate the alternator, then pull it back to about 1200 rpm, after
> > which it has died with no sputter. Now it is not firing at all. I
> > installed a new rotor and cap. Fuel pump is flowing full. Plugs look
> > good. It is not a plug or plug wire since the whole system goes dead at
> > once.
> > The dual ignition is installed but the pick-up is disconnected. Both
> > coils are still connected to the ignition selector disc, but in effect I
> > have no secondary to check. Mine quit working at 40 hours right when
> > Stratus was sold and Mikel was not willing to replace the secondary
> > module, so I don't do business with him any more.
> > I think it may have cooled off a couple of times and allowed a
> > re-start, but repeated the same pattern. Now no fire. If it is a coil, I
> > have the secondary which only has 40 hrs on it. then again it may be
> > time to update the ignition from the stock Stratus stuff. I have heard
> > you say they are prone to failure, I think. don
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hinde, Frank George
> (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
> > To:
>
stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> >
> > --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> >
>
<frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
> >
> > I could be electrical...i.e something opening up with heat.
> >
> > The usual mode of failure is the coil goes low resistance on the
> > primary
> > side and shorts out the ignitor chip...So you replave the chip ($300)
> > and it runs for 10 seconds and the faulty coil frys the new chip all
> > over again...Lovely!
> >
> > This does not sound like the problem though...yet..:)
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
>
owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
> > @matronics.com>
> > [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
> > Frank George (Corvallis)
> > To:
>
stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> > Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> > --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> > -->
>
<frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
> >
> > Possibly,
> >
> > Do you have the second ignition installed?...if it dies on the second
> > ignition as well then it cannot be a coil or ignitor chip and must be
> > related to the distributor rotor/cap/wires or plugs.
> >
> > If it runs OK on the second system it is either a ignotr chip, coil,
> > or
> > reluctor issue.
> >
> > More details please.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
>
owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-stratus-list-server>
> > @matronics.com>
> > [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
> > Walker
> > To:
>
stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>>
> > Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> > --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
> >
> <d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com<mailto:d3dw@msn.com>>>
> >
> > Okay Larry and Frank,
> > My 6 yr old Stratus is quitting on me this morning. It runs for a
> > minute or so and then dies. I have eliminated fuel as a problem. I
> > don't
> > think the distributor cap and wires are the problem, though I just
> > bought new ones today since they are original from 1999 with 370 hrs.
> > Am
> > I likely looking at a coil or a module in the distributor? don walker
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hinde, Frank George
> >
>
(Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>>
> > To:
> >
>
stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stra>
> >
>
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> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:40 AM
> > Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Cylinder head removal
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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