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     1. 06:05 PM - Re: Stratus-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/09/06 (Brett Hanley)
     2. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Stratus-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/09/06 (Don Walker)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Stratus-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/09/06 | 
      
      --> Stratus-List message posted by: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com>
      
      I have been hanging out around the local experimental
      airport for some time now.  I have witnessed more than
      a few engine failures.  Some have been certified
      engines.  Some have been expensive "aircraft" engine
      failures.  Others have been automobile engine
      failures.
      
       It is interesting to note that the complaints after
      the incident seem to be much less pointed when the
      engine was a much more expensive "aircraft" engine. 
      That is to say engine failures in an expensive
      "aircraft" engine seem to be accepted and  glossed
      over much more rapidly than an engine failure in an
      automotive engine conversion.  Maybe it is just human
      nature.  The less someone pays the less they value the
      service or the product. When the product is perceived
      as free is when the complaints get the most vocal. 
      
      Even more interesting is that only Stratus EA-81
      engine owners seem to blame one specific person at the
      factory for the problem.  When you elect to use any
      automotive conversion or any other experimental engine
      you must become the mechanic and the maintenance
      professional.  You as pilot in command and
      manufacturer are soley responsible for the
      airworthiness of your aircraft prior to any flight. 
      That's why we are hearing so much about pulling the
      cowl before every flight with some of these engines.
      
      Sometimes we seem to be like little old ladies in this
      list.   When someone does not live up to your
      expectations we blame them for the rest of their
      career.  I do not think it is fair to Stratus to keep
      dragging up the same old problems long after they have
      been addressed and corrected in current production. 
      The Stratus engines have proven themselves to be low
      maintenance and dependable.  
      
      For me the difference in the price of a a conversion
      and an "aircraft" engine is the difference between
      flying and not flying.  I would hate to see one of the
      few companies that support the EA-81 leave the market
      place because of our gossip about things that have
      long since been rectified.
      
      Just one other mans opinion. 
      
      Opinions are just like assholes.
      
      Most everybody has one.
      
      Everybody is entitled to one.
      
      Clear blue skies and smoth landings.
      
      
      
      Brett Hanley
      CH 701 plans built
      San Jose, Costa Rica
      (506)771-7078
      (506)371-4064
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Stratus-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/09/06 | 
      
      --> Stratus-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
      
      Hi Brett,
         I enjoyed my EA-81 powered HDS this week. I flew up from Texas to Little Rock
      on Wednesday and back on Saturday with beautifully clear skies.
         I also enjoyed what you wrote and I agree that unrealistic expectations cause
      a lot of frustration. If, however, someone tells you something about his product
      which is not true, or the product does not live up to what is advertised,
      then that is another story. That has been the case with some of the engines/products
      sold by Stratus. I know the complaints I have heard to be legitimate...not
      just unrealistic expectations.  Unlike Lycoming and Continental, there is
      only one man responsible now for these engines and products.
         The efforts of myself and others who mention Mikel have been to help him, as
      well as to correct our problems. However, as a good natured but hardheaded mechanic
      who is trying to make a dollar, in the past he has been slow to learn some
      things...as perhaps many of us are.
         Like you, I believe everyone can learn to improve things. I hope Stratus engines
      are now better. It wouldn't be hard to do or expensive if one intended to
      make those improvements.  What is your personal experience with the NEW Stratus
      engines? 
      
      do not archive
      
      From: Brett Hanley<mailto:bretttdc@yahoo.com>
        To: stratus-list@matronics.com<mailto:stratus-list@matronics.com>
        Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:05 PM
        Subject: Stratus-List: Re: Stratus-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/09/06
      
      
        --> Stratus-List message posted by: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com<mailto:bretttdc@yahoo.com>>
      
        I have been hanging out around the local experimental
        airport for some time now.  I have witnessed more than
        a few engine failures.  Some have been certified
        engines.  Some have been expensive "aircraft" engine
        failures.  Others have been automobile engine
        failures.
      
         It is interesting to note that the complaints after
        the incident seem to be much less pointed when the
        engine was a much more expensive "aircraft" engine.
        That is to say engine failures in an expensive
        "aircraft" engine seem to be accepted and  glossed
        over much more rapidly than an engine failure in an
        automotive engine conversion.  Maybe it is just human
        nature.  The less someone pays the less they value the
        service or the product. When the product is perceived
        as free is when the complaints get the most vocal.
      
        Even more interesting is that only Stratus EA-81
        engine owners seem to blame one specific person at the
        factory for the problem.  When you elect to use any
        automotive conversion or any other experimental engine
        you must become the mechanic and the maintenance
        professional.  You as pilot in command and
        manufacturer are soley responsible for the
        airworthiness of your aircraft prior to any flight.
        That's why we are hearing so much about pulling the
        cowl before every flight with some of these engines.
      
        Sometimes we seem to be like little old ladies in this
        list.   When someone does not live up to your
        expectations we blame them for the rest of their
        career.  I do not think it is fair to Stratus to keep
        dragging up the same old problems long after they have
        been addressed and corrected in current production.
        The Stratus engines have proven themselves to be low
        maintenance and dependable. 
      
        For me the difference in the price of a a conversion
        and an "aircraft" engine is the difference between
        flying and not flying.  I would hate to see one of the
        few companies that support the EA-81 leave the market
        place because of our gossip about things that have
        long since been rectified.
      
        Just one other mans opinion.
      
        Opinions are just like assholes.
      
        Most everybody has one.
      
        Everybody is entitled to one.
      
        Clear blue skies and smoth landings.
      
      
      
        Brett Hanley
        CH 701 plans built
        San Jose, Costa Rica
        (506)771-7078
        (506)371-4064
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
        
        
        
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
 
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