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0. 12:11 AM - Why? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:35 AM - Re: Oil Filter Cooler (Jim Weston)
2. 11:00 AM - Re: Oil Filter Cooler (Don Walker)
3. 11:11 AM - Re: Oil Filter Cooler (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
4. 11:16 AM - Oil Filter Cooler (P.H. Raker)
5. 07:53 PM - Re: Oil Filter Cooler (Kelly Meiste)
6. 08:32 PM - Re: Oil Filter Cooler (Tim Vader)
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| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
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| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some, but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
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| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Jim,
From my experience you have assessed this correctly. The muffler heat is the
offender. If you have room to wrap your muffler in a heat muff with 1/2" or
so space, then duct air into it and out, it will do wonders. I use mine for
cabin heat and it is plenty, as well as shielding the oil pan and blowing cool
air over the muffler continuously. Like I said earlier, I recorded very significant
reduction in oil temp.
I made my muff with a small sheet of aluminun...rolled to fit and connected with
a strip of nut plates. On either end I used semi-circular aluminum standoffs
of 1/4" plate, like two "C's" butted against each other for a spacer to creat
the 1/2" chamber around the muffler. Has worked great now for years.
Earlier in the process I tried wrapping the manifold in exhaust wrap, too, but
I didn't like that. don
Jim Weston <k4cod@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some, but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
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6:48 AM
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| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Just for fun, Have you tried dropping your sensor into a pan of boiing
water?...I have known guages to read incorrectly.
Frank
________________________________
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
From my experience you have assessed this correctly. The muffler heat
is the offender. If you have room to wrap your muffler in a heat muff
with 1/2" or so space, then duct air into it and out, it will do
wonders. I use mine for cabin heat and it is plenty, as well as
shielding the oil pan and blowing cool air over the muffler
continuously. Like I said earlier, I recorded very significant reduction
in oil temp.
I made my muff with a small sheet of aluminun...rolled to fit and
connected with a strip of nut plates. On either end I used semi-circular
aluminum standoffs of 1/4" plate, like two "C's" butted against each
other for a spacer to creat the 1/2" chamber around the muffler. Has
worked great now for years.
Earlier in the process I tried wrapping the manifold in exhaust wrap,
too, but I didn't like that. don
Jim Weston <k4cod@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up
some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air
to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some,
but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime
temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap
that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The
heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where
Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the
underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
To: stratus-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it
took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
To: stratus-list@matronics.com
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone
tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time
oil cooling
problems? I purchased
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| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Yes, Jim,
There are still some of us monitoring this list. Not much action
recently.
I've heard that the oil filter cooling fins do work. I have no
personal experience with them, yet. I plan to put them on the filter
on my Stratus when I get ready to fire it up.
Phil Raker N556P Zenith HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
> From: "Jim Weston"
> Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
> Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone
> tried putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer
> time oil cooling problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from
> J.C. Whitney a while back, but haven't ever installed them. Just
> wondering if anyone has tried this and if it did any good. During
> July and August here in the south I have to watch my temps pretty
> closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
> Concord, Georgia
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Greetings Frank!
Nice to hear from you again, glad to see your still monitoring this
list.
Kelly
Do not achieve
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
To: stratus-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Just for fun, Have you tried dropping your sensor into a pan of boiing
water?...I have known guages to read incorrectly.
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
List
I began subscribing to the list about three or four months ago.
Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it. I don't
have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in my Kitfox IV.
First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same day, engine out, off
field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired up and ran smoothly two
days after accident. Airframe is currently repaired and am going over
the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this winter. Aerocarb Throttle body,
Leburg ignition. Reductions belt redrive. Haven't positively
identified the cause of the engine out yet but will work through things
over the winter. Looking forward to more posts to get more information
on possible weak spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't
wait.
Tim Vader
Kitfox IV
Calgary, Alberta,
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