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1. 10:29 AM - Panel again... (Richard Lamb)
2. 10:42 AM - Re: Panel again... (Fred Weaver)
3. 01:48 PM - Re: Panel again... (Jim and Donna Clement)
4. 09:04 PM - Re: Change e-mail address (BILNEWKIRK@aol.com)
5. 11:01 PM - Re: Panel again... (Richard Lamb)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
After spending some time in the cockpit,
(close the hanger doors so no one will see!)
I'm about ready to admit that Steve knew what he was doing.
I have the panel design printed full size and mounted in the plane.
(Ancient Epson FX-100 can do that where "modern" printers can't
without a lot of cutting and pasting)
Gives me a chance to see how the arrangement works - and where it
doesn't - before cutting metal!
A single throttle lever on the left is a very simple deal,
but, as pointed out by several, you can't easily reach it from the
right seat.
Putting a vernier on the left side is even worse. It feels very
ackward. Hard to be smooth with it, and it's too close to the
door and window.
With the the panel mock-up in the plane, I noticed that it might be
possible to put verniers right under the radios and still run the
cables over the tank (!). It still feels a little high, but fairly
comfortable.
So, back to the drawing board to move things around enough to make
that happen. I lost one gauge from the panel. Looks like the gas
gauge will be a mechanical mounted on the tank (per plans no less).
The panel layout is a bit less "clean" looking, but there is room for
everything on it and it looks like it will work well.
http://home.flash.net/~lamb01/p-k6v3c.jpg
(I hope I got that right this time)
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| Subject: | Re: Panel again... |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@flash.net>
You're so funny..... If you would just put a tube thru the tank, you
could put Throttle, Mixture and Carb heat thru it and they would work
Smoothly.... come on Richard, what's keeping you from doing it?
:) Weav
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 10:26 PM, Richard Lamb wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
>
> After spending some time in the cockpit,
> (close the hanger doors so no one will see!)
> I'm about ready to admit that Steve knew what he was doing.
>
> I have the panel design printed full size and mounted in the plane.
> (Ancient Epson FX-100 can do that where "modern" printers can't
> without a lot of cutting and pasting)
>
> Gives me a chance to see how the arrangement works - and where it
> doesn't - before cutting metal!
>
> A single throttle lever on the left is a very simple deal,
> but, as pointed out by several, you can't easily reach it from the
> right seat.
>
> Putting a vernier on the left side is even worse. It feels very
> ackward. Hard to be smooth with it, and it's too close to the
> door and window.
>
> With the the panel mock-up in the plane, I noticed that it might be
> possible to put verniers right under the radios and still run the
> cables over the tank (!). It still feels a little high, but fairly
> comfortable.
>
> So, back to the drawing board to move things around enough to make
> that happen. I lost one gauge from the panel. Looks like the gas
> gauge will be a mechanical mounted on the tank (per plans no less).
>
> The panel layout is a bit less "clean" looking, but there is room for
> everything on it and it looks like it will work well.
>
> http://home.flash.net/~lamb01/p-k6v3c.jpg
>
> (I hope I got that right this time)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel again... |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Richard, my first TW had a fuel gauge in the tank and it was worthless. Go
with a low buck auto gauge and sender. Mount the sender in the top of the
tank and the gauge anywhere. The 2" gauges take up very little room. I think
if you mount your throttle, mixture and carb heat in the center you will
find that after a very short time it is the most convenient.Running the
controls over the top of the tank seems a little high at first but is ok
after a while and much easier. Bring the instrument panel back far enough
and the top part of the fuel tank forward enough to get the radios in
without notching the tank. I think about 12" will do. My panel is about 5-6"
back from the door post. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Panel again...
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
>
> After spending some time in the cockpit,
> (close the hanger doors so no one will see!)
> I'm about ready to admit that Steve knew what he was doing.
>
> I have the panel design printed full size and mounted in the plane.
> (Ancient Epson FX-100 can do that where "modern" printers can't
> without a lot of cutting and pasting)
>
> Gives me a chance to see how the arrangement works - and where it
> doesn't - before cutting metal!
>
> A single throttle lever on the left is a very simple deal,
> but, as pointed out by several, you can't easily reach it from the
> right seat.
>
> Putting a vernier on the left side is even worse. It feels very
> ackward. Hard to be smooth with it, and it's too close to the
> door and window.
>
> With the the panel mock-up in the plane, I noticed that it might be
> possible to put verniers right under the radios and still run the
> cables over the tank (!). It still feels a little high, but fairly
> comfortable.
>
> So, back to the drawing board to move things around enough to make
> that happen. I lost one gauge from the panel. Looks like the gas
> gauge will be a mechanical mounted on the tank (per plans no less).
>
> The panel layout is a bit less "clean" looking, but there is room for
> everything on it and it looks like it will work well.
>
> http://home.flash.net/~lamb01/p-k6v3c.jpg
>
> (I hope I got that right this time)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Change e-mail address |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: BILNEWKIRK@aol.com
Please change my e-mail address from: bilnewkirk@aol.com
Thanks
Bill Newkirk
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| Subject: | Re: Panel again... |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
Smart-ellick answer is I'm a card carrying coward.
Truth is I've already been in a couple of aircraft
fires. Ok, helicopters, but it was still fire.
My right hand is mostly burn scar tissue.
Nice big burn scar on my right shoulder.
They make a lasting impression.
Putting a tube fore/aft in the middle of the tank
seems like it would create a hard spot right in the
middle of the very flexible skins of the tank.
Perfect recipe for metal fatigue, cracks and leaks.
Maybe it wouldn't actually turn out that way, but
it really is a serious issue with me. I want to feel
comfortable and confident in it. Not constantly worried.
That's no way to have fun!
You see, Fred, for me, just climbing in an airplane
shows amazing courage - and no brains at all.
Having sat in the thing for a few hours trying out all
the various possibilities, the center throttle seems like
the best compromise. I already have verniers for throttle
and mixture.
I've flown left handed. I'm (a lot!) smoother with the right,
but in a few hours it will all feel perfectly natural.
Fred Weaver wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@flash.net>
>
> You're so funny..... If you would just put a tube thru the tank, you
> could put Throttle, Mixture and Carb heat thru it and they would work
> Smoothly.... come on Richard, what's keeping you from doing it?
> :) Weav
> On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 10:26 PM, Richard Lamb wrote:
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> >
> > After spending some time in the cockpit,
> > (close the hanger doors so no one will see!)
> > I'm about ready to admit that Steve knew what he was doing.
> >
> > I have the panel design printed full size and mounted in the plane.
> > (Ancient Epson FX-100 can do that where "modern" printers can't
> > without a lot of cutting and pasting)
> >
> > Gives me a chance to see how the arrangement works - and where it
> > doesn't - before cutting metal!
> >
> > A single throttle lever on the left is a very simple deal,
> > but, as pointed out by several, you can't easily reach it from the
> > right seat.
> >
> > Putting a vernier on the left side is even worse. It feels very
> > ackward. Hard to be smooth with it, and it's too close to the
> > door and window.
> >
> > With the the panel mock-up in the plane, I noticed that it might be
> > possible to put verniers right under the radios and still run the
> > cables over the tank (!). It still feels a little high, but fairly
> > comfortable.
> >
> > So, back to the drawing board to move things around enough to make
> > that happen. I lost one gauge from the panel. Looks like the gas
> > gauge will be a mechanical mounted on the tank (per plans no less).
> >
> > The panel layout is a bit less "clean" looking, but there is room for
> > everything on it and it looks like it will work well.
> >
> > http://home.flash.net/~lamb01/p-k6v3c.jpg
> >
> > (I hope I got that right this time)
> >
> >
>
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