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1. 07:22 PM - hot steel (Richard Lamb)
2. 07:37 PM - Re: hot steel (Jim and Donna Clement)
3. 08:17 PM - Re: hot steel (Richard Lamb)
4. 09:11 PM - Re: hot steel (Fred Weaver)
5. 11:39 PM - Re: hot steel (Richard Lamb)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
My back finally had enough bending over the parasol messing with the
trim mechanism and I had to go do something else for a while.
Went and chilled out in the TW cabin for a while (cool in the hangar
today). Finally decided it was time to do something - even if it was
wrong!
Since the panel design has been on my mind for a while, I decided the
thing to do was cut off the top instrument panel frame tube. It's per
plans, and right in the way. With it out of the way, I can actually
start putting panel stuff together.
Pumped up the compressor, put a steel cutting disk on the die grinder
and went at it.
I had forgotten the smell of hot steel.
The few minutes it took to cut that tube out wandered back over
40 years of people and places - all brought together by a common
love.
Some are gone now.
Some are brand new.
More are on the way.
I just wanted to say - it a pleasure to know you guys.
Richard
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Richard, Cut the bottom tube out also, then you can make the panel to your
liking. Bring it back enough to get things in with out hitting the fuel
tank. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: hot steel
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
>
> My back finally had enough bending over the parasol messing with the
> trim mechanism and I had to go do something else for a while.
>
> Went and chilled out in the TW cabin for a while (cool in the hangar
> today). Finally decided it was time to do something - even if it was
> wrong!
>
> Since the panel design has been on my mind for a while, I decided the
> thing to do was cut off the top instrument panel frame tube. It's per
> plans, and right in the way. With it out of the way, I can actually
> start putting panel stuff together.
>
> Pumped up the compressor, put a steel cutting disk on the die grinder
> and went at it.
>
>
> I had forgotten the smell of hot steel.
>
>
> The few minutes it took to cut that tube out wandered back over
> 40 years of people and places - all brought together by a common
> love.
>
> Some are gone now.
> Some are brand new.
> More are on the way.
>
> I just wanted to say - it a pleasure to know you guys.
>
> Richard
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
Thanks Jim.
Actually, that bottom tube looks pretty handy.
It's located back three inches from the door frame tube.
I have moved the panel aft.
The panel itself is back 5 or 6 inches from the door frame.
There's no obstructions at all for the top row, and the cross
tube is 8 or 9 inches (?) in front of the panel.
Think that will be enough room?
Some of those panel drawing I did think that lower cross tube
would be exactly the right spot to hinge mount an instrument panel.
The throttle at high center, and the radios in the top of the panel
would have to be mounted permenately. But the rest of the panel
could easily swing down. Having the pivot point back behind the
panel that far lets all the gauges swing clear without hitting
anything. The Tailwind panel is fairly small, and the floors
fairly comfortable without a stick sticking in my back.
Still, it's an intriguing idea.
You know better than most people how far back behind that thing
you have to go sometimes...
Jim and Donna Clement wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
>
> Richard, Cut the bottom tube out also, then you can make the panel to your
> liking. Bring it back enough to get things in with out hitting the fuel
> tank. Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
> To: "TW List" <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Tailwind-List: hot steel
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> >
> > My back finally had enough bending over the parasol messing with the
> > trim mechanism and I had to go do something else for a while.
> >
> > Went and chilled out in the TW cabin for a while (cool in the hangar
> > today). Finally decided it was time to do something - even if it was
> > wrong!
> >
> > Since the panel design has been on my mind for a while, I decided the
> > thing to do was cut off the top instrument panel frame tube. It's per
> > plans, and right in the way. With it out of the way, I can actually
> > start putting panel stuff together.
> >
> > Pumped up the compressor, put a steel cutting disk on the die grinder
> > and went at it.
> >
> >
> > I had forgotten the smell of hot steel.
> >
> >
> > The few minutes it took to cut that tube out wandered back over
> > 40 years of people and places - all brought together by a common
> > love.
> >
> > Some are gone now.
> > Some are brand new.
> > More are on the way.
> >
> > I just wanted to say - it a pleasure to know you guys.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@flash.net>
Yo Richard... You really don't need the hinged panel. Hinging the panel is
just a lot more engineering and you will find out with time, that you don't
need it at all. Simplify your design by screwing it together... It's not
like you are loading the thing with GPS, Autopilot, Radios(plural) etc
etc... The stuff you install will be fairly accessible thru the top cover
of the dash.
Once the plane flies, you will be spending lots of time in the air and you
won't be doinking around pivoting your panel down for maintenance.
Honest.....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: hot steel
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
> Actually, that bottom tube looks pretty handy.
> It's located back three inches from the door frame tube.
>
> I have moved the panel aft.
> The panel itself is back 5 or 6 inches from the door frame.
> There's no obstructions at all for the top row, and the cross
> tube is 8 or 9 inches (?) in front of the panel.
> Think that will be enough room?
>
> Some of those panel drawing I did think that lower cross tube
> would be exactly the right spot to hinge mount an instrument panel.
>
> The throttle at high center, and the radios in the top of the panel
> would have to be mounted permenately. But the rest of the panel
> could easily swing down. Having the pivot point back behind the
> panel that far lets all the gauges swing clear without hitting
> anything. The Tailwind panel is fairly small, and the floors
> fairly comfortable without a stick sticking in my back.
> Still, it's an intriguing idea.
>
> You know better than most people how far back behind that thing
> you have to go sometimes...
>
>
> Jim and Donna Clement wrote:
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement"
<168x@merr.com>
> >
> > Richard, Cut the bottom tube out also, then you can make the panel to
your
> > liking. Bring it back enough to get things in with out hitting the fuel
> > tank. Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
> > To: "TW List" <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Tailwind-List: hot steel
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> > >
> > > My back finally had enough bending over the parasol messing with the
> > > trim mechanism and I had to go do something else for a while.
> > >
> > > Went and chilled out in the TW cabin for a while (cool in the hangar
> > > today). Finally decided it was time to do something - even if it was
> > > wrong!
> > >
> > > Since the panel design has been on my mind for a while, I decided the
> > > thing to do was cut off the top instrument panel frame tube. It's per
> > > plans, and right in the way. With it out of the way, I can actually
> > > start putting panel stuff together.
> > >
> > > Pumped up the compressor, put a steel cutting disk on the die grinder
> > > and went at it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I had forgotten the smell of hot steel.
> > >
> > >
> > > The few minutes it took to cut that tube out wandered back over
> > > 40 years of people and places - all brought together by a common
> > > love.
> > >
> > > Some are gone now.
> > > Some are brand new.
> > > More are on the way.
> > >
> > > I just wanted to say - it a pleasure to know you guys.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
He never lets me have any fun :(
I still like that cross tube tho.
It's even a handy spot to secure a (hurrump) non-folding panel.
I'll tell ya what, tho.
Jim commented about making the tank easily removable.
I'll take that one at face value.
The only thing under the tank are the mount straps
and the fuel line.
I've had the front cabin side panels clecoed on.
Trying to get a feel for how to get everything flush and
rolled around to the bottom. That's interesting.
I need a firewall material, and, of course, want stainless.
The .025 stuff I've seem locally is twice too heavy.
Any alternate source for .017??
This weekend, I bent the windshield frame for the parasol.
1/2" .040 4130 tube. Came out pretty nice. I think I
see how to form the winshield frame for the TW now.
By comparison, that will be easy.
Door skins and windows and frames, oh my!
Especially the back window.
I think I see now why the long pointy one is so popular!
Fred Weaver wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@flash.net>
>
> Yo Richard... You really don't need the hinged panel. Hinging the panel is
> just a lot more engineering and you will find out with time, that you don't
> need it at all. Simplify your design by screwing it together... It's not
> like you are loading the thing with GPS, Autopilot, Radios(plural) etc
> etc... The stuff you install will be fairly accessible thru the top cover
> of the dash.
>
> Once the plane flies, you will be spending lots of time in the air and you
> won't be doinking around pivoting your panel down for maintenance.
> Honest.....
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: hot steel
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> >
> > Thanks Jim.
> >
> > Actually, that bottom tube looks pretty handy.
> > It's located back three inches from the door frame tube.
> >
> > I have moved the panel aft.
> > The panel itself is back 5 or 6 inches from the door frame.
> > There's no obstructions at all for the top row, and the cross
> > tube is 8 or 9 inches (?) in front of the panel.
> > Think that will be enough room?
> >
> > Some of those panel drawing I did think that lower cross tube
> > would be exactly the right spot to hinge mount an instrument panel.
> >
> > The throttle at high center, and the radios in the top of the panel
> > would have to be mounted permenately. But the rest of the panel
> > could easily swing down. Having the pivot point back behind the
> > panel that far lets all the gauges swing clear without hitting
> > anything. The Tailwind panel is fairly small, and the floors
> > fairly comfortable without a stick sticking in my back.
> > Still, it's an intriguing idea.
> >
> > You know better than most people how far back behind that thing
> > you have to go sometimes...
> >
> >
> > Jim and Donna Clement wrote:
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement"
> <168x@merr.com>
> > >
> > > Richard, Cut the bottom tube out also, then you can make the panel to
> your
> > > liking. Bring it back enough to get things in with out hitting the fuel
> > > tank. Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
> > > To: "TW List" <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Tailwind-List: hot steel
> > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
> > > >
> > > > My back finally had enough bending over the parasol messing with the
> > > > trim mechanism and I had to go do something else for a while.
> > > >
> > > > Went and chilled out in the TW cabin for a while (cool in the hangar
> > > > today). Finally decided it was time to do something - even if it was
> > > > wrong!
> > > >
> > > > Since the panel design has been on my mind for a while, I decided the
> > > > thing to do was cut off the top instrument panel frame tube. It's per
> > > > plans, and right in the way. With it out of the way, I can actually
> > > > start putting panel stuff together.
> > > >
> > > > Pumped up the compressor, put a steel cutting disk on the die grinder
> > > > and went at it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had forgotten the smell of hot steel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The few minutes it took to cut that tube out wandered back over
> > > > 40 years of people and places - all brought together by a common
> > > > love.
> > > >
> > > > Some are gone now.
> > > > Some are brand new.
> > > > More are on the way.
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to say - it a pleasure to know you guys.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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