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1. 05:52 AM - Re: Welding done! (USAviator1@aol.com)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Welding done! (David Magaw)
3. 07:25 AM - 2nd West Coast Tailwind Flyin June 8 (David Magaw)
4. 12:30 PM - Powder coat cost (Davstamsta@aol.com)
5. 12:34 PM - Re: Powder coat cost (USAviator1@aol.com)
6. 01:10 PM - Re: Powder coat cost (Richard Lamb)
7. 05:28 PM - Re: Powder coat cost (Jim and Donna Clement)
8. 06:29 PM - Re: Powder coat cost (Davstamsta@aol.com)
9. 08:01 PM - Nose Wheel Pant (William Bernard)
10. 09:02 PM - Re: Nose Wheel Pant (Jim and Donna Clement)
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| Subject: | Re: Welding done! |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: USAviator1@aol.com
Congrats Dave! Good to hear from you. I had wondered about the powder
coating, what is the cost to have that done?
Steve -in Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Welding done! |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "David Magaw" <dmagaw@att.net>
You work almost as fast as Rick Croslin! If you get a chance, post some
pictures to the Tailwind forum.
Dave
N202Q (installing new engine and lots is different)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Davstamsta@aol.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Welding done!
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
>
> Hi everyone,
> I finished brazing the last tab today then loaded the airframe in a pickup
to
> be sandblasted and powder coated at a place in Niles Michigan that does
race
> cars.
> I must say, today was a big moment for me.
> The last thing I welded was actually the first thing I welded. I had to
> re-make the brake pedal to accept the 8" clevelands. The plans seem to be
> wrong. Or maybe its me.
> This weekend I plan to cover through the tape. Eric, Now is your chance!
> If all goes well, the engine goes in the following weekend.
>
> David Stamsta, Michigan
> N917WT
>
>
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| Subject: | 2nd West Coast Tailwind Flyin June 8 |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "David Magaw" <dmagaw@att.net>
Just a reminder that the 2nd Annual Tailwind Fly-in will be June 8 at Yolo County
Airport (2Q3) near Sacramento, CA. Hope to see a bunch of tailwinds and cougars
there. Free breakfast (my treat) for those who fly in via tailwind or cougar.
Meet at the EAA hangar on the field. Breakfast between 9-10:30 am.
See you there.
Dave Magaw
N202Q
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| Subject: | Powder coat cost |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
Steve,
I don't know the cost yet. Somewhere between $600 and $700 is what I was
quoted.
But it was the time it took that sold me. I can get it done this week, and
start covering over the long weekend. No waiting for the paint to dry!
At the local rental place a decent sand blaster rents for $300 a day and I
would have to do that messy job.
David
N917WT
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat cost |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: USAviator1@aol.com
Sounds like a good deal, I will have to come out and see what it looks like
when you get yours done.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat cost |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
David,
Pardon if this sound blunt, I don't mean it that way.
But is powder coating the fuselage really a good idea?
I know it's state of the art stuff and all, but...?
Power coat finishes can crack or chip leaving the steel exposed.
I don't know actual weights, but my impression is that PC is
fairly heavy(?) Or can be?
And $600 is a fair chunk of change - to me, at least.
Everybody has their own priorities though.
The messy job of sandblasting the frame is an ideal opportunity
for one last close visual inspection of all the tubes and clusters.
May I suggest a two part epoxy primer like Epibond?
Sprayed out, it cures to the touch in half an hour.
It gives the same protection, impervious to almost anything,
(including, to some extent, sandplasting!)
but without the potential for cracks and rust.
A quart kit of Epibond, thinner and all, costs about $50.
Just my 2 cents.
Richard
Davstamsta@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
>
> Steve,
> I don't know the cost yet. Somewhere between $600 and $700 is what I was
> quoted.
> But it was the time it took that sold me. I can get it done this week, and
> start covering over the long weekend. No waiting for the paint to dry!
> At the local rental place a decent sand blaster rents for $300 a day and I
> would have to do that messy job.
>
> David
> N917WT
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat cost |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
I'll go along with Richard, a good urethane or epoxy is a lot less money and
the Randolph Epibond is as good as it gets. It is also less money than most
of the automotive type primers and doesn't need a topcoat. Comes in two
colors. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lamb" <lamb01@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Powder coat cost
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <lamb01@flash.net>
>
> David,
> Pardon if this sound blunt, I don't mean it that way.
>
> But is powder coating the fuselage really a good idea?
> I know it's state of the art stuff and all, but...?
>
> Power coat finishes can crack or chip leaving the steel exposed.
>
> I don't know actual weights, but my impression is that PC is
> fairly heavy(?) Or can be?
>
> And $600 is a fair chunk of change - to me, at least.
>
> Everybody has their own priorities though.
>
> The messy job of sandblasting the frame is an ideal opportunity
> for one last close visual inspection of all the tubes and clusters.
>
> May I suggest a two part epoxy primer like Epibond?
> Sprayed out, it cures to the touch in half an hour.
> It gives the same protection, impervious to almost anything,
> (including, to some extent, sandplasting!)
> but without the potential for cracks and rust.
>
> A quart kit of Epibond, thinner and all, costs about $50.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Davstamsta@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
> >
> > Steve,
> > I don't know the cost yet. Somewhere between $600 and $700 is what I was
> > quoted.
> > But it was the time it took that sold me. I can get it done this week,
and
> > start covering over the long weekend. No waiting for the paint to dry!
> > At the local rental place a decent sand blaster rents for $300 a day and
I
> > would have to do that messy job.
> >
> > David
> > N917WT
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat cost |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
I knew you guys would give me a hard time about the cost! :)
But right now my motto is: I can always get more money, but I'll never get
more time.
The epoxy recommends to cure for seven days before application of the poly
tak.
Just so you know, I had already bought the two part epoxy primer, E420. I did
the flaps, ailerons, rudder, elevator, and stabilizer last fall. Still have
plenty left. I also have a few bags of sand if anyone wants to fly over and
haul some home. No charge!
I've heard a lot of the pros and cons of both. I encourage hearing more, just
for conversations sake.
Mine can be an experiment to see which is better, since I have used both.
I have not heard that the powder cracks or chips. In fact just the opposite.
It is very difficult to remove for a repair. And I have heard that moisture
can get underneath and rust can be hard to spot. I think it can be heavy, but
I'm not too worried. As some of you know who have seen my project, there is
nothing extra inside and it will be a light one.
If anyone wants to fly out this weekend for an up close inspection just stop
on by.
I live a mile for 4N0, Newman's field in south west Michigan.
David
N917WT
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
I'me in the process of installing Van's Nosewheel pant on the gear fork. The drawing
I got shows riveting the pant to the attachment bracket. Is this the way
it's done? I thought about substituting plate nuts to allow removal of the pant,
rather than installing the pant 'permantly'.
Any comments from the tri-gear crowd as to how to proceed?
Thanks in advance!
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Wheel Pant |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Bill, I used plate nuts on the brackets, otherwise you have to remove the
axle and the two allen screws.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Nose Wheel Pant
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard"
<billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
>
> I'me in the process of installing Van's Nosewheel pant on the gear fork.
The drawing I got shows riveting the pant to the attachment bracket. Is this
the way it's done? I thought about substituting plate nuts to allow removal
of the pant, rather than installing the pant 'permantly'.
>
> Any comments from the tri-gear crowd as to how to proceed?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Bill
>
>
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