Tailwind-List Digest Archive

Sun 09/28/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 08:07 AM - Re: backing plate (Brian Alley)
     2. 06:25 PM - Frasca taildragger flyin (flamini2)
     3. 07:03 PM - Old Tailwinds (flamini2)
     4. 07:27 PM - Re: Old Tailwinds (Robert Cutter)
     5. 07:41 PM - Re: Old Tailwinds (Cy Galley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:07:11 AM PST US
    From: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: backing plate
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com> John, I have back plates of carbon fiber ready to ship in sizes 11 1/2 inches & 12 inches. These plates are $35 each ===== BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck? __________________________________


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    Time: 06:25:22 PM PST US
    From: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net>
    Subject: Frasca taildragger flyin
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net> Just got the flyer on the flyin at C16 on Sat the 11th of Oct, see you there? i may have an extra seat, Nick in Kalamazoo? Dennis Flamini N564DF race # 53 Chicago


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    Time: 07:03:42 PM PST US
    From: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net>
    Subject: Old Tailwinds
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net> i was looking at a list of EAA Rockford Tailwinds and came across N1111N built by the second owner of my TW and the second one Wittman built, N9052C. i looked them up on Google and both were destroyed in crashes!! N1111N in 1971 and N9052C in 1993 in San Jose (Weave, do you know more about it?) NTSB Identification: LAX94LA025. The docket is stored in the (offline) NTSB Imaging System. Accident occurred OCT-27-93 at SAN JOSE, CA Aircraft: WITTMAN TAILWIND W8L, registration: N9052C Injuries: 2 Fatal. THE AIRPLANE HAD BEEN IN STORAGE FOR 10 YRS. IN MAY 1993, IT WAS REMOVED FROM STORAGE AND A CONDITION INSPECTION PERFORMED. THE ACCIDENT FLIGHT WAS THE SECOND SINCE REMOVAL FROM STORAGE. AFTER THE AIRPLANE WAS SEQUENCED FOR LANDING, THE LOCAL CONTROLLER HEARD A GARBLED TRANSMISSION FROM THE AIRPLANE CONCERNING THE ENGINE. NO FURTHER TRANSMISSIONS WERE HEARD. GROUND WITNESSES REPORTED THAT THE AIRPLANE APPEARED TO BE ATTEMPTING TO LAND ON A RESIDENTIAL CITY STREET WITH THE PROPELLER STOPPED. IT THEN COLLIDED WITH 3 TREES, A PARKED PICKUP TRUCK, AND THE STREET. FIRE CONSUMED THE AIRPLANE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DRAINED ABOUT 10 GALS OF FUEL FROM THE FUSELAGE TANK AFTER THE FIRE WAS EXTINGUISHED. THE DRAINED FUEL HAD AN ODOR AND COLOR SIMILAR TO AUTOMOTIVE GASOLINE. THE ENGINE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY INSTALLED ON A TEST STAND AND RUN FOR 4 MIN 40 SECS. MAGNETO CHECKS WERE SATISFACTORY, AND THE ENGINE RESPONDED WELL TO RAPID THROTTLE MOVEMENTS. Probable Cause THE LOSS OF ENGINE POWER FOR AN UNDETERMINED REASON(S). A FACTOR IN THE ACCIDENT WAS THE UNSUITABLE NATURE OF THE TERRAIN ENCOUNTERED DURING THE FORCED LANDING. Index for Oct 1993 | Index of Months =1A=1A=1A=1A=1A=1A Dennis in Chicago


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    Time: 07:27:54 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Cutter" <rcutter@cupower.com>
    Subject: Re: Old Tailwinds
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Robert Cutter" <rcutter@cupower.com> N1111N (picket fence) is in North Carolina. I have seen it in an ALMOST flying mode a couple of years ago. Robert Cutter ----- Original Message ----- From: flamini2 To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: Old Tailwinds --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net> i was looking at a list of EAA Rockford Tailwinds and came across N1111N built by the second owner of my TW and the second one Wittman built, N9052C. i looked them up on Google and both were destroyed in crashes!! N1111N in 1971 and N9052C in 1993 in San Jose (Weave, do you know more about it?) NTSB Identification: LAX94LA025. The docket is stored in the (offline) NTSB Imaging System. Accident occurred OCT-27-93 at SAN JOSE, CA Aircraft: WITTMAN TAILWIND W8L, registration: N9052C Injuries: 2 Fatal. THE AIRPLANE HAD BEEN IN STORAGE FOR 10 YRS. IN MAY 1993, IT WAS REMOVED FROM STORAGE AND A CONDITION INSPECTION PERFORMED. THE ACCIDENT FLIGHT WAS THE SECOND SINCE REMOVAL FROM STORAGE. AFTER THE AIRPLANE WAS SEQUENCED FOR LANDING, THE LOCAL CONTROLLER HEARD A GARBLED TRANSMISSION FROM THE AIRPLANE CONCERNING THE ENGINE. NO FURTHER TRANSMISSIONS WERE HEARD. GROUND WITNESSES REPORTED THAT THE AIRPLANE APPEARED TO BE ATTEMPTING TO LAND ON A RESIDENTIAL CITY STREET WITH THE PROPELLER STOPPED. IT THEN COLLIDED WITH 3 TREES, A PARKED PICKUP TRUCK, AND THE STREET. FIRE CONSUMED THE AIRPLANE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DRAINED ABOUT 10 GALS OF FUEL FROM THE FUSELAGE TANK AFTER THE FIRE WAS EXTINGUISHED. THE DRAINED FUEL HAD AN ODOR AND COLOR SIMILAR TO AUTOMOTIVE GASOLINE. THE ENGINE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY INSTALLED ON A TEST STAND AND RUN FOR 4 MIN 40 SECS. MAGNETO CHECKS WERE SATISFACTORY, AND THE ENGINE RESPONDED WELL TO RAPID THROTTLE MOVEMENTS. Probable Cause THE LOSS OF ENGINE POWER FOR AN UNDETERMINED REASON(S). A FACTOR IN THE ACCIDENT WAS THE UNSUITABLE NATURE OF THE TERRAIN ENCOUNTERED DURING THE FORCED LANDING. Index for Oct 1993 | Index of Months 1A1A1A1A1A1A Dennis in Chicago


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    Time: 07:41:35 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Old Tailwinds
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> NTSB Identification: NYC72FGT04 14 CFR Part 91 General Aviation Event occurred Sunday, August 01, 1971 in HALIFAX, PA Aircraft: WHITTMAN W-8, registration: N1111N ------------------------------------------------ FILE DATE LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT PILOT DATA F S M/N -------------------------------------------------------3-4378 71/8/1 HALIFAX,PA WHITTMAN W-8 CR- 0 0 1 NONCOMMERCIAL PRIVATE, AGE 28, 250 TIME - 2000 N1111N PX- 0 0 1 PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP TOTAL HOURS, 15 IN TYPE, DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL OT- 0 0 0 NOT INSTRUMENT RATED. DEPARTURE POINT INTENDED DESTINATION FREDERICKSBURG,PA FT.WAYNE,IND TYPE OF ACCIDENT PHASE OF OPERATION COLLIDED WITH: OBJECT LANDING: ROLL NOSE OVER/DOWN LANDING: ROLL PROBABLE CAUSE(S) PILOT IN COMMAND - CONTINUED VFR FLIGHT INTO ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS PILOT IN COMMAND - SELECTED UNSUITABLE TERRAIN FACTOR(S) WEATHER - LOW CEILING WEATHER - RAIN WEATHER - THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY TERRAIN - OTHER WEATHER BRIEFING - BRIEFED BY FLIGHT SERVICE PERSONNEL, BY PHONE WEATHER FORECAST - FORECAST SUBSTANTIALLY CORRECT EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - PRECAUTIONARY LANDING OFF AIRPORT ADVERSE/UNFAVORABLE WEATHER SKY CONDITION CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED 1700 VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE 3 MILES OR LESS RAIN SHOWERS, THUNDERSTORM OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS NONE VFR TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN NONE REMARKS- CONT INTO KNOWN MARGINAL WEA. MADE PRECAUTIONARY LDG ON SLOPING PASTURE STRIP. GR HIT FURROW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net> Subject: Tailwind-List: Old Tailwinds > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net> > > i was looking at a list of EAA Rockford Tailwinds and came across N1111N built by the second owner of my TW and the second one Wittman built, N9052C. > i looked them up on Google and both were destroyed in crashes!! > N1111N in 1971 and N9052C in 1993 in San Jose (Weave, do you know more about it?) > NTSB Identification: LAX94LA025. The docket is stored in the (offline) NTSB Imaging System. > > Accident occurred OCT-27-93 at SAN JOSE, CA > Aircraft: WITTMAN TAILWIND W8L, registration: N9052C > Injuries: 2 Fatal. > THE AIRPLANE HAD BEEN IN STORAGE FOR 10 YRS. IN MAY 1993, IT WAS REMOVED FROM STORAGE AND A CONDITION INSPECTION PERFORMED. THE ACCIDENT FLIGHT WAS THE SECOND SINCE REMOVAL FROM STORAGE. AFTER THE AIRPLANE WAS SEQUENCED FOR LANDING, THE LOCAL CONTROLLER HEARD A GARBLED TRANSMISSION FROM THE AIRPLANE CONCERNING THE ENGINE. NO FURTHER TRANSMISSIONS WERE HEARD. GROUND WITNESSES REPORTED THAT THE AIRPLANE APPEARED TO BE ATTEMPTING TO LAND ON A RESIDENTIAL CITY STREET WITH THE PROPELLER STOPPED. IT THEN COLLIDED WITH 3 TREES, A PARKED PICKUP TRUCK, AND THE STREET. FIRE CONSUMED THE AIRPLANE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DRAINED ABOUT 10 GALS OF FUEL FROM THE FUSELAGE TANK AFTER THE FIRE WAS EXTINGUISHED. THE DRAINED FUEL HAD AN ODOR AND COLOR SIMILAR TO AUTOMOTIVE GASOLINE. THE ENGINE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY INSTALLED ON A TEST STAND AND RUN FOR 4 MIN 40 SECS. MAGNETO CHECKS WERE SATISFACTORY, AND THE ENGINE RESPONDED WELL TO RAPID THROTTLE MOVEMENTS. > Probable Cause > THE LOSS OF ENGINE POWER FOR AN UNDETERMINED REASON(S). A FACTOR IN THE ACCIDENT WAS THE UNSUITABLE NATURE OF THE TERRAIN ENCOUNTERED DURING THE FORCED LANDING. > > Index for Oct 1993 | Index of Months =1A=1A=1A=1A=1A=1A > > Dennis in Chicago > >




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