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1. PM - New list test (Luc H.)
2. PM - Re: Fred Double Posting? (Fred Weaver)
3. PM - Matronics Internet Connection Repaired!! (Matt Dralle)
4. PM - Re: Tailwind List Now Supports Stuff... (George Turner)
5. PM - Finally a day to brag about (Jerry Hey)
6. PM - Re: Finally a day to brag about (Fred Weaver)
7. PM - Looking outside (Jerry Hey)
8. PM - Re: Re: Fred Can't quit. (George Turner)
9. PM - Re: Fred Can't quit. (Fred Weaver)
10. PM - Finally a day to brag about (Fred Weaver)
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How is this for special text and embeds.
Hey Fred kiss my b**t.
Will I fit in a Tailwind?
Fred at play.
For you Mac guys the animated gif.'s might not work.
49T over the central valley of California
with Fred flying close formation on the Mooney. 3749T Built by Jerome Thiessen,
now owned by Dennis Vest.
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| Subject: | Re: Fred Double Posting? |
George....Not sure what you are talking about. However, I have been
sending the same messages to Yahoo groups Tailwind Forum as well as our
Matronics Tailwind list. In that case, you would receive two messages
but from different lists. I would sincerely like to only post to the
Matronics site... In fact, I'm glad you posted this one... I'm
going to cancel out of the forum now...
Thanks George...
Weav
On Friday, December 26, 2003, at 05:39 AM, George Turner wrote:
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> Fred:=A0=A0 Why do you double post?=A0=A0=A0=A0 I usually get two of everything
> you send and I was thinking that you have been repeating yourself for
> emphasis or something?
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> George....Phx.<image.tiff>
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> The Tailwind Forum group site is:
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| Subject: | Matronics Internet Connection Repaired!! |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
The phone company was out here bright and early this morning and repaired
the wires and the T1 connection is back up and rock solid!
Again my apologies for any inconvenience the disruption may have caused.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind List Now Supports Stuff... |
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been included so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or block
similar future email. If you have any questions, contact
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Tailwind.
Thank you Matt. This is great for pictures. Hope we don't get out of control.
George
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| Subject: | Finally a day to brag about |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Today was perfect. Forty-one degrees, crystal clear, and a light
breeze. I celebrated by finally cutting the umbilical cord that had me
tethered to the airport and took a sight seeing trip around northern
Indiana. From my modest altitude of 3000 ft AGL I could see at least
fifty lakes some quite large. Blue jewels set in the snow. I found
my house and then I found the airport again and so on for two hours.
Just getting comfortable with this part of the world. There is an
east-west railroad track, the Baltimore-Ohio, that crosses Indiana
that will damn near take me back to the airport. Ain't that cool.
N6PJ performed beautifully but the fresh air vent on the pilots side
leaked badly. Otherwise I would still be up there right now.
I wanted to find out for real what this 0-200 powered W-8 would do.
At 3200 MSL in level flight for ten minutes at full throttle, the rpm
climbed to 2900 and the speed reached 175 indicated. After all that
fun, I made my first landing on an icy runway and obviously have lived
to talk about it. I am so stoked.
Tomorrow, after fixing the vent, I may fly north for about 40 minutes
and take a look at Lake Michigan.
Jerry
P.S. I am going to double post this on both lists. I would appreciate
it if you would e-mail back either Matronics or Yahoo just to get a
feel what is going on. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Finally a day to brag about |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Great Stuff Jerry.... I went for a Rocket ride today.... wow, what
vertical. 5,000 ft in no time at all. Went hunting for the puffy cumulus in
a crystal clear and cold sky.. Had a ball... Can hardly wait to hear that
you flew up into Wisconsin to see Jim and the gang..
Weav Only on Matronics list... No more forum for me and Thanks to
George, no more double posts either.
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Tailwind-List: Finally a day to brag about
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Today was perfect. Forty-one degrees, crystal clear, and a light
> breeze. I celebrated by finally cutting the umbilical cord that had me
> tethered to the airport and took a sight seeing trip around northern
> Indiana. From my modest altitude of 3000 ft AGL I could see at least
> fifty lakes some quite large. Blue jewels set in the snow. I found
> my house and then I found the airport again and so on for two hours.
> Just getting comfortable with this part of the world. There is an
> east-west railroad track, the Baltimore-Ohio, that crosses Indiana
> that will damn near take me back to the airport. Ain't that cool.
>
> N6PJ performed beautifully but the fresh air vent on the pilots side
> leaked badly. Otherwise I would still be up there right now.
>
> I wanted to find out for real what this 0-200 powered W-8 would do.
> At 3200 MSL in level flight for ten minutes at full throttle, the rpm
> climbed to 2900 and the speed reached 175 indicated. After all that
> fun, I made my first landing on an icy runway and obviously have lived
> to talk about it. I am so stoked.
>
> Tomorrow, after fixing the vent, I may fly north for about 40 minutes
> and take a look at Lake Michigan.
>
> Jerry
>
> P.S. I am going to double post this on both lists. I would appreciate
> it if you would e-mail back either Matronics or Yahoo just to get a
> feel what is going on. Thanks.
>
>
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Today,=A0 after landing,=A0 I got into a conversation with a pilot who has
been at the same airport for the past two years.=A0 I mentioned how cool
it was to have a railroad cutting clear across Indiana that passed
right by the airport. It gave me a feeling of security that I could
always find my way back.=A0=A0=A0 He did not know what I was talking about.=A0
Just watching that GPS (which I am sure displayed the railroad)=A0 told
him everything he needed to know: Airport Dead Ahead. He=A0 had never
noticed the railroad.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Think about it.=A0 Jerry
=A0
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| Subject: | Re: Fred Can't quit. |
The Weaver Rocket
Fred: You can't quit Yahoo Forum. There are 230 people in the Yahoo forum who
will likely post messages and they need your experienced entertaining comments,
especially now that it is winter up north and they up there are all shut in
til spring. I think most subscribe to both groups and so if we post once,
everybody get's the post.
I do not know how many subscribe to Matronics List.
George.....Phx
The Tailwinds are out of control.
Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
George....Not sure what you are talking about. However, I have been
sending the same messages to Yahoo groups Tailwind Forum as well as our
Matronics Tailwind list. In that case, you would receive two messages
but from different lists. I would sincerely like to only post to the
Matronics site... In fact, I'm glad you posted this one... I'm
going to cancel out of the forum now...
Thanks George...
Weav
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| Subject: | Re: Fred Can't quit. |
George.... It's simple... They need to get off the freekin Yahooo forum and
get back to the original Tailwind List. I no longer want to deal with both lists.
Matt has really tried to put the red carpet out and I think we should take
advantage of it. It's everything we ever wanted without all that yahoooo crap
in our emails...... AND I loved the Weaver Rocket... Hahahaha...
Gotta tell you it was a tremendous amount of fun today. Such incredible power
and speed. The Tailwind is damned near as fast but this Rocket can go straight
up for a long way....and then roll over, come back and chase a cloud etc etc.........
Ok.... I had a good time.
BTW, I saw the barely visible... "The Tailwinds are out of control".. ! It was
somewhat camoflauged it the background. Only a few can really enjoy that one.
I still think it was the controllers and the T6's that were out of control.
hahahahahaha..
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Fred Can't quit.
The Weaver Rocket
Fred: You can't quit Yahoo Forum. There are 230 people in the Yahoo forum who
will likely post messages and they need your experienced entertaining comments,
especially now that it is winter up north and they up there are all shut
in til spring. I think most subscribe to both groups and so if we post once,
everybody get's the post.
I do not know how many subscribe to Matronics List.
George.....Phx
The Tailwinds are out of control.
Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
George....Not sure what you are talking about. However, I have been
sending the same messages to Yahoo groups Tailwind Forum as well as our
Matronics Tailwind list. In that case, you would receive two messages
but from different lists. I would sincerely like to only post to the
Matronics site... In fact, I'm glad you posted this one... I'm
going to cancel out of the forum now...
Thanks George...
Weav
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| Subject: | Finally a day to brag about |
Jerry...... If you would simply keep flying that nice little W8, you wouldn't
ever have to go thru all the headaches in front of you with the Rotary. I can
just see that rotary all spun up....delivering a million horsepower and the catapult
shoots you off... Wow! Your wings are swept back to reduce drag and the
climb is outrageous! God, you can make it to Baraboo in twenty minutes! Oh
damn, you have to get that thing cooled too???? Oh shit.. Steam is getting
on the windshield and freezing,making visibility so crappy.. Damn, damn, damn.....
Maybe you can land on Lake Winnebago..........since it's frozen over. Of
course all this can only happen during winter months. Oh, you can't make it??
Maybe Meigs Field is an option? No... they will rape you if you touch down
there. Better try to limp back to Indiana where the RR tracks can point you towards
home field... Then you could strap on the W8 and go back up to Baraboo
for a lunch at Culvers.. That's the nice thing about a Tailwind, it can actually
do all that stuff in a period of time so you won't be late for lunch.
:)
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hey
To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TailwindForum] Finally a day to brag about
John, The 0-200 gets this 750 lb airplane airborne in a few hundred feet. The
climb out is not bad either but I don't have a VSI. I would guess around 750
ft per min but that could be way off. Based on my airplane's logs, I would have
to say that short fields and high density altitudes are nothing to be particularly
worried about.
However, I don't think you would get the same performance out of a 0-200 powered
W-10, because it is a heavier airplane. A very light W-10 could be built.
There is one in Texas that is around 800 lbs, I am told and is intended to be
powered by a 65hp Cont. This does not sound like a good idea to me but I am watching
to see how it turns out. Personally, I liked the idea of the turbo-charged
0-200. Someplace this side of 10,000 ft, assuming turbo normalizing, you would
be developing more h.p. than Fred's n.a. 0-360. The big advantage of the
0-200 is that the engine is light enough that a constant speed prop could be employed.
That would help with the take off and climb out.
If you want guaranteed great performance, get an 0-320. An 0-320 powered W-10
is about as good as it is going to get.......well, until my 220 hp rotary is
strapped onto a W-10. Jerry
Today was perfect. Forty-one degrees, crystal clear, and a light breeze. I celebrated
by finally cutting the umbilical cord that had me tethered to the airport
and took a sight seeing trip around northern Indiana. From my modest altitude
of 3000 ft AGL I could see at least fifty lakes some quite large. Blue jewels
set in the snow. I found my house and then I found the airport again and
so on for two hours. Just getting comfortable with this part of the world. There
is an east-west railroad track, the Baltimore-Ohio, that crosses Indiana that
will damn near take me back to the airport. Ain't that cool.
N6PJ performed beautifully but the fresh air vent on the pilots side leaked badly.
Otherwise I would still be up there right now.
I wanted to find out for real what this 0-200 powered W-8 would do. At 3200 MSL
in level flight for ten minutes at full throttle, the rpm climbed to 2900 and
the speed reached 175 indicated. After all that fun, I made my first landing
on an icy runway and obviously have lived to talk about it. I am so stoked.
Tomorrow, after fixing the vent, I may fly north for about 40 minutes and take
a look at Lake Michigan.
Jerry
P.S. I am going to double post this on both lists. I would appreciate it if you
would e-mail back either Matronics or Yahoo just to get a feel what is going
on. Thanks.
.
On Friday, December 26, 2003, at 06:02 PM, john koning wrote:
Jerry,how's the take-off performance of the W-8 with an 0-200? Are short fields
or high density altitudes scary,or do you think the 0-200 is a good engine
choice? I'm sitting on the fence as to what engine to use on a W-10 project.
John Koning,Hamilton Ontario,Canada
Chuck and Nancy Riley <riley.nancy@comcast.net> wrote:
Way to go Jerry. I received this on yahoo. Happy Holidays
Chuck & Nancy Riley
Fresno, California
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hey
To: Tailwind Forum
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: [TailwindForum] Finally a day to brag about
Today was perfect. Forty-one degrees, crystal clear, and a light
breeze. I celebrated by finally cutting the umbilical cord that had me
tethered to the airport and took a sight seeing trip around northern
Indiana. From my modest altitude of 3000 ft AGL I could see at least
fifty lakes some quite large. Blue jewels set in the snow. I found
my house and then I found the airport again and so on for two hours.
Just getting comfortable with this part of the world. There is an
east-west railroad track, the Baltimore-Ohio, that crosses Indiana
that will damn near take me back to the airport. Ain't that cool.
N6PJ performed beautifully but the fresh air vent on the pilots side
leaked badly. Otherwise I would still be up there right now.
I wanted to find out for real what this 0-200 powered W-8 would do.
At 3200 MSL in level flight for ten minutes at full throttle, the rpm
climbed to 2900 and the speed reached 175 indicated. After all that
fun, I made my first landing on an icy runway and obviously have lived
to talk about it. I am so stoked.
Tomorrow, after fixing the vent, I may fly north for about 40 minutes
and take a look at Lake Michigan.
Jerry
P.S. I am going to double post this on both lists. I would appreciate
it if you would e-mail back which one you received it on either
Matronics or Yahoo just to get a feel what is going on. Thanks.
The Tailwind Forum group site is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TailwindForum
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