---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/29/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. PM - Re: Re: Tailwind Exhaust (William Bernard) 2. PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (William Bernard) 3. PM - OOPS! or how I should ask first (USAviator1@aol.com) 4. PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (Fred Weaver) 5. PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (USAviator1@aol.com) 6. PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (Fred Weaver) 7. PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (Bob Estelle Danner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ - From: "William Bernard" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind Exhaust Yep! The pipes don't come anywhere near the firewall. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Weaver To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind Exhaust I thought it looked like it was coming sort of steeply downward. So the exhaust will stick down and out thru a hole or two in the bottom cowling? Well ahead of the firewall? On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 02:48 PM, William Bernard wrote: Fred, I adapted a crossover system I had previously used on my Mustang II. Both pipes cross in front of the oil sump but then turn downward and exit the cowling sort of like on the later Cherokees. I have not had good experience with long tail pipes in the cowling and I also like to get the heat out as quickly as possible. This system has been used for a couple hundred hours and didn't have a bit of problem. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Weaver To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Got the Wings on Looks real nice Bill.... What did you end up doing for exhaust? On Saturday, December 27, 2003, at 12:56 PM, William Bernard wrote: I finally got the wings mounted, hopefully permantly. Just had to show off a little. Bill I love it whan a plane comes together ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ - From: "William Bernard" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" Thanks Jim. I'm about to the point of rigging the flaps and ailerons and getting close to doing the weight & balance. I had planned to fly without wheel pants on the mains for a while, mainly just to get into the air a bit quicker. It's good to know that they will have an effect on the trim. I may have to increase the priority on getting them on. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> > > Bill, I measured my trike with a smart level and this is what it trike > reads. > Horizontal stab, measured at the outboard tip, inboard of the elevator arm. > 1.5 degrees down in front. > Bottom of root rib, 1.2 degrees down at front. > Bottom longeron, 1.5 degrees down at front. This might vary as the > sheetmetal prevented getting on the longeron itself. > The airplane was sitting on the hanger floor with about a half tank of gas. > If you fly it without the wheel pants, the drag of the wheels will pull the > nose down quite a bit more than expected. Jim C > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Bernard" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" > > > > > RJ, I'm not sure. I think that it is about an inch from the bolt hole to > the > > top of the top longeron, but it's been a while since I worked on that end > of > > the plane. > > > > I'm hoping that this works out about right, but I won't know until after I > > fly it. > > > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RJ" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 5:25 PM > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ > > > > > > Looks like an exciting time, Bill. What incidence is > > > your stabilizer set at? Looks about zero degrees. I'm > > > setting mine about a degree down, (tailwheel version). > > > I measured some W-10s at Baraboo, most are 1" to 1 > > > 1/2" from bolt hole to top of longeron. Just curious. > > > RJ > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ - From: USAviator1@aol.com Subject: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first Jim C. and everybody. I finished welding the engine mount with the dynafocal ring and nose gear socket. The big moment came to fit the Lycoming 0-320 up to the new mount and I should have asked why the bottom tubes to the nose gear socket looked goofy. Now I know. The oil pan is hitting the 2 tubes and I am looking at moving them farther back on the nose gear socket and then welding in gussets for addition strength. Jim or anybody, do you have another idea on how to deal with the problem I have now? How much space should I allow between the oil pan and the tubes? I will try to include a pic. Steve -in Michigan ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ - Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first From: Fred Weaver Ahhhh..... You gotta love those nose gears..... :) Steve, were you using the RV6A drawings for reference? It's a must... Weav On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 12:07 PM, USAviator1@aol.com wrote: > > > Jim C. and everybody.=A0 I finished welding the engine mount with the > dynafocal ring and nose gear socket.=A0 The big moment came to fit the > Lycoming 0-320 up to the new mount and I should have asked why the > bottom tubes to the nose gear socket looked goofy.=A0 Now I know.=A0 The > oil pan is hitting the 2 tubes and I am looking at moving them farther > back on the nose gear socket and then welding in gussets for addition > strength. > > Jim or anybody, do you have another idea on how to deal with the > problem I have now?=A0 How much space should I allow between the oil pan > and the tubes? > > I will try to include a pic. > > Steve -in Michigan > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ - From: USAviator1@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first Weav, yes, I actually was using Jim's drawing and didn't quite understand the tubing placement and why they crossed over each other. Now I know. Stupid me, I even have his pics too. Steve ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ - Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first From: Fred Weaver Doesn't that just kill ya? I have to tell you, I loved the picture of the sump nested up against those tubes.. Bet you really had to scratch your head after seeing that one? Good Luck with the fix, Weav do not archive On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 01:50 PM, USAviator1@aol.com wrote: > Weav, yes, I actually was using Jim's drawing and didn't quite > understand the tubing placement and why they crossed over each other.=A0 > Now I know.=A0 Stupid me, I even have his pics too. > > Steve ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ - From: "Bob Estelle Danner" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first put the carb on to make sure it dont hit the gear leg Bob Danner ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Weaver To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first Doesn't that just kill ya? I have to tell you, I loved the picture of the sump nested up against those tubes.. Bet you really had to scratch your head after seeing that one? Good Luck with the fix, Weav do not archive On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 01:50 PM, USAviator1@aol.com wrote: Weav, yes, I actually was using Jim's drawing and didn't quite understand the tubing placement and why they crossed over each other. Now I know. Stupid me, I even have his pics too. Steve