Tailwind-List Digest Archive

Tue 12/30/03


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1.  PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (Lovelace, Malcolm)
     2.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (William Bernard)
     3.  PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (USAviator1@aol.com)
     4.  PM - Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first (USAviator1@aol.com)
     5.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Jim and Donna Clement)
     6.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Lovelace, Malcolm)
     7.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Bob Estelle Danner)
     8.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (USAviator1@aol.com)
     9.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Fred Weaver)
    10.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Bob Estelle Danner)
    11.  PM - O-O prop (Rick and Cindy)
    12.  PM - Re: O-O prop (Bob Conner)
    13.  PM - Stabilizer setting (RJ)
    14.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Jim and Donna Clement)
    15.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (Fred Weaver)
    16.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (George Turner)
    17.  PM - Stabilizer setting (RJ)
    18.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (RJ)
    19.  PM - Prop for speed? (Fred Weaver)
    20.  PM - Nose Gear tubing (Fred Weaver)
    21.  PM - Stab trim shot (Fred Weaver)
    22.  PM - Gordon's W10 (Fred Weaver)
    23.  PM - Re: Stabilizer setting (George Turner)
 
 
 


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    From: "Lovelace, Malcolm" <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
    Subject: OOPS! or how I should ask first
    Steve, I would cut them at the gear leg mount, heat the top and bend them back to get the clearance you need. I think I had about 1/4-3/8 on mine. The nose gear mount is rigid so there is not much movement as long as you don't land on the nose gear first. > -----Original Message----- > From: USAviator1@aol.com [SMTP:USAviator1@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:07 PM > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > Cc: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first > > << Message: Untitled Attachment >> << File: engine interference2.jpg >> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <META NAME"Generator" CONTENT"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> RE: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first Steve, I would cut them at the gear leg mount, heat the top and bend them back to get the clearance you need. I think I had about 1/4-3/8 on mine. The nose gear mount is rigid so there is not much movement as long as you don't land on the nose gear first. -----Original Message-----
    From: USAviator1@aol.com [SMTP:USAviator1@aol.com]
    Subject: Tailwind-List: OOPS! or how I should ask first Message: Untitled Attachment File: engine interference2.jpg


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    From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> Jim I went out and measured my plane after I got your post. I just want to make sure of a couple of things. Your measurement at the bottom longeron was taken at the front of the fuselage, say, between the firewall and the wing strut, correct? The reading on the smart level showed 1.5 degrees with the little arrow showing that the leading edge end of the level had to go down. Correct?? I don't have a smart level, but using an ordinary level and a tape measure, I think that the leading edge of the stabilizer, measured at the tip, inboard of the elevator, shows 1 degree up, with the leading edge higher than the trailing edge. If I interpret your post correctly, your stab is set essentially level with respect to the long axis of the fuselage. I also assume that your wing is set to 0 deg. incidence. Mine has 1 deg. so I am not sure what the stab setting should be. It appears I may be close. thanks for the help. Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > <168x@merr.com> > > > > Bill, I measured my trike with a smart level and this is what it trike > > reads. > > Horizontal stab, measured at the outboard tip, inboard of the elevator > arm. > > 1.5 degrees down in front. > > Bottom of root rib, 1.2 degrees down at front. > > Bottom longeron, 1.5 degrees down at front. This might vary as the > > sheetmetal prevented getting on the longeron itself. > > The airplane was sitting on the hanger floor with about a half tank of > gas. Jim C


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    From: USAviator1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first
    Bob, thanks, already thought of that one! Yes, it clears fine. Steve


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    From: USAviator1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: OOPS! or how I should ask first
    Malcomb, thanks but too late, I already cut them out. I have the new ones fitted and just wanted to make sure I had enough clearance. It sure is fun to be able to roll the fuselage around on its own gear now! Later, Steve


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    From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> Bill, Right, my stab and wing appear to measured the same. The measurement ahead of the strut might not be a good comparision as it has the boot cowl wrapped around the longeron. On some of my other TWs it seems the stab was about 1/2 degree down on the front. It's a uncomfortable feeling when the airplane wants to pitch over when the stick is let loose. Without the wheelpants it will for sure. Maybe Malcolm could check his. I'll also check with Bob and Russ when I see them. Jim C ----- Original Message -----
    From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> > > Jim I went out and measured my plane after I got your post. I just want to > make sure of a couple of things. > > Your measurement at the bottom longeron was taken at the front of the > fuselage, say, between the firewall and the wing strut, correct? > > The reading on the smart level showed 1.5 degrees with the little arrow > showing that the leading edge end of the level had to go down. Correct?? > > I don't have a smart level, but using an ordinary level and a tape measure, > I think that the leading edge of the stabilizer, measured at the tip, > inboard of the elevator, shows 1 degree up, with the leading edge higher > than the trailing edge. If I interpret your post correctly, your stab is set > essentially level with respect to the long axis of the fuselage. > > I also assume that your wing is set to 0 deg. incidence. Mine has 1 deg. so > I am not sure what the stab setting should be. It appears I may be close. > > thanks for the help. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > > <168x@merr.com> > > > > > > Bill, I measured my trike with a smart level and this is what it trike > > > reads. > > > Horizontal stab, measured at the outboard tip, inboard of the elevator > > arm. > > > 1.5 degrees down in front. > > > Bottom of root rib, 1.2 degrees down at front. > > > Bottom longeron, 1.5 degrees down at front. This might vary as the > > > sheetmetal prevented getting on the longeron itself. > > > The airplane was sitting on the hanger floor with about a half tank of > > gas. > Jim C > >


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    From: "Lovelace, Malcolm" <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
    Subject: Stabilizer setting
    I have my wings and stab set at Zero. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim and Donna Clement [SMTP:168x@merr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:13 AM > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > <168x@merr.com> > > Bill, Right, my stab and wing appear to measured the same. The measurement > ahead of the strut might not be a good comparision as it has the boot cowl > wrapped around the longeron. On some of my other TWs it seems the stab was > about 1/2 degree down on the front. It's a uncomfortable feeling when the > airplane wants to pitch over when the stick is let loose. Without the > wheelpants it will for sure. Maybe Malcolm could check his. I'll also > check > with Bob and Russ when I see them. Jim C > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:53 AM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" > <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> > > > > Jim I went out and measured my plane after I got your post. I just want > to > > make sure of a couple of things. > > > > Your measurement at the bottom longeron was taken at the front of the > > fuselage, say, between the firewall and the wing strut, correct? > > > > The reading on the smart level showed 1.5 degrees with the little arrow > > showing that the leading edge end of the level had to go down. Correct?? > > > > I don't have a smart level, but using an ordinary level and a tape > measure, > > I think that the leading edge of the stabilizer, measured at the tip, > > inboard of the elevator, shows 1 degree up, with the leading edge higher > > than the trailing edge. If I interpret your post correctly, your stab is > set > > essentially level with respect to the long axis of the fuselage. > > > > I also assume that your wing is set to 0 deg. incidence. Mine has 1 deg. > so > > I am not sure what the stab setting should be. It appears I may be > close. > > > > thanks for the help. > > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > > > <168x@merr.com> > > > > > > > > Bill, I measured my trike with a smart level and this is what it > trike > > > > reads. > > > > Horizontal stab, measured at the outboard tip, inboard of the > elevator > > > arm. > > > > 1.5 degrees down in front. > > > > Bottom of root rib, 1.2 degrees down at front. > > > > Bottom longeron, 1.5 degrees down at front. This might vary as the > > > > sheetmetal prevented getting on the longeron itself. > > > > The airplane was sitting on the hanger floor with about a half tank > of > > > gas. > > Jim C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    From: "Bob Estelle Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    RE: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer settinghi dont know what the angle of the dangle is on the horv . stab. on the trike . but i do know it was to high in the front to start with we ended up with the bolt setting in the lowest hole all the way to the bottom of my adjustment . and still have to to have a small trim tab on the bottom of the elevator . the cause of this is that i didnt have the horizontal tube up far enough against the top longeron . when i welded it in . i had the four diagonals all ready welded to the lower and upper longerons. so the horizontal tube that you slide the horizontal stablizer on to is about a 1/2 to3/4in to low . so i ended up in the very bottom of my bolt hole adjustment on the leading where it meets the fusalage adj. holes. just another screw up that Jim bailed me out on one of many others Bob Danner ----- Original Message ----- From: Lovelace, Malcolm To: 'tailwind-list@matronics.com' Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting I have my wings and stab set at Zero. -----Original Message----- From: Jim and Donna Clement [SMTP:168x@merr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:13 AM To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> Bill, Right, my stab and wing appear to measured the same. The measurement ahead of the strut might not be a good comparision as it has the boot cowl wrapped around the longeron. On some of my other TWs it seems the stab was about 1/2 degree down on the front. It's a uncomfortable feeling when the airplane wants to pitch over when the stick is let loose. Without the wheelpants it will for sure. Maybe Malcolm could check his. I'll also check with Bob and Russ when I see them. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> > > Jim I went out and measured my plane after I got your post. I just want to > make sure of a couple of things. > > Your measurement at the bottom longeron was taken at the front of the > fuselage, say, between the firewall and the wing strut, correct? > > The reading on the smart level showed 1.5 degrees with the little arrow > showing that the leading edge end of the level had to go down. Correct?? > > I don't have a smart level, but using an ordinary level and a tape measure, > I think that the leading edge of the stabilizer, measured at the tip, > inboard of the elevator, shows 1 degree up, with the leading edge higher > than the trailing edge. If I interpret your post correctly, your stab is set > essentially level with respect to the long axis of the fuselage. > > I also assume that your wing is set to 0 deg. incidence. Mine has 1 deg. so > I am not sure what the stab setting should be. It appears I may be close. > > thanks for the help. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > > <168x@merr.com> > > > > > > Bill, I measured my trike with a smart level and this is what it trike > > > reads. > > > Horizontal stab, measured at the outboard tip, inboard of the elevator > > arm. > > > 1.5 degrees down in front. > > > Bottom of root rib, 1.2 degrees down at front. > > > Bottom longeron, 1.5 degrees down at front. This might vary as the > > > sheetmetal prevented getting on the longeron itself. > > > The airplane was sitting on the hanger floor with about a half tank of > > gas. > Jim C > > > > > > > > > > > > entirely through the Contributions never see banner ads or any other the Matronics Forums. ">http://www.matronics.com/chat tailwind-list@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/subscription FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Tailwind-List.htm ">http://www.matronics.com/search http://www.matronics.com/browse/tailwind-list ">http://www.matronics.com/digest/tailwind-list ">http://www.matronics.com/chat Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ">http://www.matronics.com/tailwind-list Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists


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    From: USAviator1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    Bob, that is interesting that you brought that up about the horizontal stabilizer. I have mine welded in and it is also down from the upper longeron just as you described. Thanks for the heads up, I will make accommodations for the adjustment. Steve -in Michigan


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    From: "Fred Weaver" <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    For all of you guys interested in Stab settings... That last post from Jim said it all.. It doesn't matter where it is in "inches" from anything... It does matter "How many Degrees" it is with respect to the "Level" fuselage. When the fuse is level, the stab should be at zero OR with the leading edge of the stab slightly lower by maybe a half a degree or so. You will almost never find a situation where you have to have the leading edge up higher than zero degrees. As Bob pointed out, when the stab mounting tube is welded in, that becomes a focal point. Not an upper longeron or anything else. Most of the time when you are flying a Tailwind, you will be lightly loaded aft so it's going to require "up" trim for level flight. Think about that when you are setting the incidence into the stab just don't get carried away. When you load up your plane for the trip to Baraboo, you will probably have a passenger and loads of luggage/baggage. When you begin to get close to Wisconsin and the fuel level begins to diminish, that is when you will start enjoying the down trim feature of your controls. Hopefully, I used the right words to give you the thought process for that procedure. Have fun, Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: USAviator1@aol.com To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting Bob, that is interesting that you brought that up about the horizontal stabilizer. I have mine welded in and it is also down from the upper longeron just as you described. Thanks for the heads up, I will make accommodations for the adjustment. Steve -in Michigan


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    From: "Bob Estelle Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    Hi again as a after thought if you made the bolt attachment bracket somewhat deeper longer with a couple of more holes. well it cant hurt Bob Danner ----- Original Message ----- From: USAviator1@aol.com To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting Bob, that is interesting that you brought that up about the horizontal stabilizer. I have mine welded in and it is also down from the upper longeron just as you described. Thanks for the heads up, I will make accommodations for the adjustment. Steve -in Michigan


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    From: "Rick and Cindy" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
    Subject: O-O prop
    Just back from pickin' up the prop for O-O, a constant speed McCauley off a Mooney 231, fresh out of the overhaul shop. Looks brand new, 74" long. The guy I bought it from threw in a spinner and backing plate to fit it. Man is this thing ever goin' to haul ass. Rick N241SW


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    From: "Bob Conner" <bdconner@hotmail.com>
    Subject: O-O prop
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bob Conner" <bdconner@hotmail.com> Rick sounds like your still making good progress. Can't wait till ya fly it............Bob 149 do not archive
    From: "Rick and Cindy" <RCAVIATE@INFIONLINE.NET>
    Man is this thing ever goin' to haul ass. Rick N241SW Expand your wine savvy and get some great new recipes at MSN Wine.


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    From: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> I replied to this a couple days ago but for some reason it didn't appear. Thanks to all for the input concerning the stabilizer setting. When I set mine up sometime ago, with the thrust line level, wings incidence almost zero, I set the stabilizer incidence at zero, (root and tip), and drilled a hole. Then I drilled a second hole lower, I think 1/2 degree negative, (it's been a while ago, I'd have to find my notes to be sure). I planned to use this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. Does this sound about right for a 220 pound change in fuel load during a long flight? The reason I'm thinking of this now is I'm painting and wanted to fix the stabilizer setting upon assembly in the paint room with a stabilizer to fuselage tape to cover the gap, (it will have some trim and base color on it). It sure would be easier to do it now with the fuselage on a rotating fixture than later after flying it. The gap varies from zero to about 1/4 inch. Bob Danner makes a good point about the stabilizer tube of some planes being lower. And Weav's point of measuring to the top of the longeron for the same reason. But, I've measured 7 W-10's, (tailwheel version), and the measurements fall within a narrow range. I'm somewhat surprised some Tailwinds are flying with zero incidence, perhaps I should use the zero degree hole for the above fuel weight change? Also, I can move the battery aft 12-14 inches if I'm off a lot. Well, what do those that have flown W-10s cross country think? RJ __________________________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/


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    From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> My guess would be 1/2 degree neg. Jim C ----- Original Message -----
    From: "RJ" <gatsby8898@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> > > I replied to this a couple days ago but for some > reason it didn't appear. > Thanks to all for the input concerning the stabilizer > setting. When I set mine up sometime ago, with the > thrust line level, wings incidence almost zero, I set > the stabilizer incidence at zero, (root and tip), and > drilled a hole. Then I drilled a second hole lower, I > think 1/2 degree negative, (it's been a while ago, I'd > have to find my notes to be sure). I planned to use > this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. Does > this sound about right for a 220 pound change in fuel > load during a long flight? The reason I'm thinking of > this now is I'm painting and wanted to fix the > stabilizer setting upon assembly in the paint room > with a stabilizer to fuselage tape to cover the gap, > (it will have some trim and base color on it). It sure > would be easier to do it now with the fuselage on a > rotating fixture than later after flying it. The gap > varies from zero to about 1/4 inch. > Bob Danner makes a good point about the stabilizer > tube of some planes being lower. And Weav's point of > measuring to the top of the longeron for the same > reason. But, I've measured 7 W-10's, (tailwheel > version), and the measurements fall within a narrow > range. I'm somewhat surprised some Tailwinds are > flying with zero incidence, perhaps I should use the > zero degree hole for the above fuel weight change? > Also, I can move the battery aft 12-14 inches if I'm > off a lot. Well, what do those that have flown W-10s > cross country think? RJ > > __________________________________ > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >


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    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net> I'm with Jim.... I would go with some negative angle "at least"... RJ, the worst that will happen is you will have to carry more "down" trim as the fuel load burns off.. It's a beautiful thing......more speed and less drag= more mpg.... :) Weav PS.... RJ... When you lived on top of the mountains, how did you stay warm? Wood or gas? On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 07:42 PM, Jim and Donna Clement wrote: > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" > <168x@merr.com> > > My guess would be 1/2 degree neg. Jim C > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RJ" <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: Tailwind-List: Stabilizer setting > > >> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> >> >> I replied to this a couple days ago but for some >> reason it didn't appear. >> Thanks to all for the input concerning the stabilizer >> setting. When I set mine up sometime ago, with the >> thrust line level, wings incidence almost zero, I set >> the stabilizer incidence at zero, (root and tip), and >> drilled a hole. Then I drilled a second hole lower, I >> think 1/2 degree negative, (it's been a while ago, I'd >> have to find my notes to be sure). I planned to use >> this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. Does >> this sound about right for a 220 pound change in fuel >> load during a long flight? The reason I'm thinking of >> this now is I'm painting and wanted to fix the >> stabilizer setting upon assembly in the paint room >> with a stabilizer to fuselage tape to cover the gap, >> (it will have some trim and base color on it). It sure >> would be easier to do it now with the fuselage on a >> rotating fixture than later after flying it. The gap >> varies from zero to about 1/4 inch. >> Bob Danner makes a good point about the stabilizer >> tube of some planes being lower. And Weav's point of >> measuring to the top of the longeron for the same >> reason. But, I've measured 7 W-10's, (tailwheel >> version), and the measurements fall within a narrow >> range. I'm somewhat surprised some Tailwinds are >> flying with zero incidence, perhaps I should use the >> zero degree hole for the above fuel weight change? >> Also, I can move the battery aft 12-14 inches if I'm >> off a lot. Well, what do those that have flown W-10s >> cross country think? RJ >> >> __________________________________ >> http://photos.yahoo.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > > _- > ======================================================================= > > _- > ======================================================================= > > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    I have 33 gal fuel tank but never fill it unless I am going on a long trip, so usually I have no more than 15 or 20 gallons for most flights. Also, what the pilot weighs will offset the fuel weight on the cg in my case. George.....Phx W10 Clements nice tail: I planned to use >> this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. Does >> this sound about right for a 220 pound change in fuel >> load during a long flight? ---------------------------------


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    From: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> Strictly wood, Weav. Nearest natural gas was 30 miles away. The terrain was too difficult to haul in propane, we would have to had an enormous amount of it too. We made sure we had about 7 cords of wood cut and stored by the end of each October to compete with the occasional minus 35. We could keep a 105 degree differential between inside and out. It was a great way to live for 10 years. No utility bills either. Life for my wife and me is too easy now. Spoiled by technology. Thanks for the input Jim & Weave. I'll go with the minus 1/2. RJ __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com/top2003


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    From: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> Thanks, George. Long way between airports sometimes out here. Since I'll be flying alone most of the time, and to maintain the max head pressure for take off, I'll probably always have a full tank for T.O., at least till I get used to the Tailwind habits. On those occasion's when you do fly long trips can you maintain trim, or do you have to hold pressure on the stick at beginning or end of the trip? --- George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have 33 gal fuel tank but never fill it unless I > am going on a long trip, so usually I have no more > than 15 or 20 gallons for most flights. Also, what > the pilot weighs will offset the fuel weight on the > cg in my case. George.....Phx W10 > > Clements nice tail: > > > > > > > I planned to use > >> this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. > Does > >> this sound about right for a 220 pound change in > fuel > >> load during a long flight? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com/top2003


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    Subject: Prop for speed?
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    This prop was mounted on a nice Award Winning Tailwind. How fast did it go? russprop


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    Subject: Nose Gear tubing
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    hey Steve.... Could you have used this picture sooner? That's Jerry Hey on this end and Russ Hasenbalg with the cap on. November 2002. I still remember watching Russ putting this motor mount together. He had the engine case sitting on a cart in front of the airplane with it bolted to the dynafocal mount. Everything was positioned properly and he was "tacking" in tubes with a mig. Remember I just said "tacking"... It was a great visual to see how it's really done when you have to do it by yourself. I prefer the idea of buying one from Jerry Hey's fixture but...........................................he doesn't make one for Trikes. :) Weav russfirewall


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    Subject: Stab trim shot
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    RJ.... This shows just how well the stab/elevator trims out at around 180 mph... This stab had a slight amount of Neg stab incidence. Note how well the elevator lines up with the stab. Maybe the builder got lucky? :) I like to think he knew what he was doing. Weav OldnSlow W10/Cont O-300.jpg Just a joke on the file name... hahahahhaha This was and still is a very slick airframe.


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    Subject: Gordon's W10
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    Nice sky eh? Gordon Parkers nice ride... W10 with 0-320


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    From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Stabilizer setting
    The plans trim on the stick works ok almost 100 per sent of the time no matter what fuel or baggage I have. I have a wood prop. RJ <gatsby8898@yahoo.com> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: RJ Thanks, George. Long way between airports sometimes out here. Since I'll be flying alone most of the time, and to maintain the max head pressure for take off, I'll probably always have a full tank for T.O., at least till I get used to the Tailwind habits. On those occasion's when you do fly long trips can you maintain trim, or do you have to hold pressure on the stick at beginning or end of the trip? --- George Turner wrote: > I have 33 gal fuel tank but never fill it unless I > am going on a long trip, so usually I have no more > than 15 or 20 gallons for most flights. Also, what > the pilot weighs will offset the fuel weight on the > cg in my case. George.....Phx W10 > > Clements nice tail: > > > > > > > I planned to use > >> this second hole as I have a 36 gallon fuel tank. > Does > >> this sound about right for a 220 pound change in > fuel > >> load during a long flight? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ---------------------------------




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