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1. 10:10 AM - Dynofocal mounts (Paul Holmes)
2. 01:52 PM - Icy runway (Jerry Hey)
3. 02:29 PM - Re: Icy runway (Christian Bobka)
4. 02:46 PM - Re: Icy runway (Jerry Hey)
5. 02:53 PM - I used to like my Ivo Prop (Bob Conner)
6. 03:28 PM - Re: Icy runway (Jim and Donna Clement)
7. 05:02 PM - Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Jerry Hey)
8. 05:59 PM - Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Fred Weaver)
9. 06:04 PM - QRe: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Dave M)
10. 06:16 PM - Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Bob Conner)
11. 06:19 PM - Re: QRe: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Bob Conner)
12. 06:40 PM - Re: QRe: I used to like my Ivo Prop (Fred Weaver)
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| Subject: | Dynofocal mounts |
Wicks can't tell me if their homebuilt set of dynofocal mounts EM100-005 is ok
for my 150 hp O-320. Has anyone used them?
Paul
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This is a picture of N6PJ taken this morning. For the last six days.,
my airport has been under a heavy sheet of ice. My response is to stay
at home in front of the fire, a hot toddy close at hand. But if I
wanted to fly off of this stuff, would it be particularly dangerous?
What are the special techniques for Tailwinding on ice. You Baraboo
guys should have all the answers. Jerry
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
You won't have any brakes. None. The tailwheel will have no effect. It
may as well be a free swivelling caster. If you have a crosswind, make sure
it is from the right. This way as you raise the tail (aka lower the nose),
the gyroscopic precession of the prop disc will have a vector 90 degrees
from the point the force is applied, which is the top of the disc, so the
effect will be that as you raise the tail, the fuselage will swing right.
With a crosswind from the right, trying to swing the tail left while
weathervaning, they will more or less cancel. The first 100 feet of the
takeoff roll is the most challenging until the rudder takes holt.
Use the same logic for landing but now the tail is coming down so the
crosswind should be from the left.
I flew a lusombe through the aftermath of a bunch of ice storms in Dallas,
Texas, fifteen or so years ago and this was the only way to deal with the
ice sheet on the runway. I learned a lot about applied physics.
At least you got the hangar door open. It makes the case for a bifold door.
The doors in texas are pretty much all on tracks and the tracks freeze up
with water, locking the door shut with ice.
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Icy runway
> This is a picture of N6PJ taken this morning. For the last six days.,
> my airport has been under a heavy sheet of ice. My response is to stay
> at home in front of the fire, a hot toddy close at hand. But if I
> wanted to fly off of this stuff, would it be particularly dangerous?
> What are the special techniques for Tailwinding on ice. You Baraboo
> guys should have all the answers. Jerry
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Thanks Chris, I learned more from your comments than I ever expected.
Funny too. Jerry
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 05:27 PM, Christian Bobka wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
> <bobka@charter.net>
>
> You won't have any brakes. None. The tailwheel will have no effect.
> It
> may as well be a free swivelling caster. If you have a crosswind,
> make sure
> it is from the right. This way as you raise the tail (aka lower the
> nose),
> the gyroscopic precession of the prop disc will have a vector 90
> degrees
> from the point the force is applied, which is the top of the disc, so
> the
> effect will be that as you raise the tail, the fuselage will swing
> right.
> With a crosswind from the right, trying to swing the tail left while
> weathervaning, they will more or less cancel. The first 100 feet of
> the
> takeoff roll is the most challenging until the rudder takes holt.
>
> Use the same logic for landing but now the tail is coming down so the
> crosswind should be from the left.
>
> I flew a lusombe through the aftermath of a bunch of ice storms in
> Dallas,
> Texas, fifteen or so years ago and this was the only way to deal with
> the
> ice sheet on the runway. I learned a lot about applied physics.
>
> At least you got the hangar door open. It makes the case for a bifold
> door.
> The doors in texas are pretty much all on tracks and the tracks freeze
> up
> with water, locking the door shut with ice.
> chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> To: <Tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 3:51 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Icy runway
>
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>> This is a picture of N6PJ taken this morning. For the last six
>> days.,
>> my airport has been under a heavy sheet of ice. My response is to
>> stay
>> at home in front of the fire, a hot toddy close at hand. But if I
>> wanted to fly off of this stuff, would it be particularly dangerous?
>> What are the special techniques for Tailwinding on ice. You Baraboo
>> guys should have all the answers. Jerry
>>
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| Subject: | I used to like my Ivo Prop |
This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos. Anybody have any
idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob 149
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Pretty much what Chris said, no braking what so ever. Even with the throttle
all the way closed it will roll forever and hard to slow down. On landing
with any crosswind, it will weathervane into the wind and start sliding
sideways, then all you can do is ride it out and hope you don't hit
something. If you are on a frozen lake with smooth ice you can go full power
and pretty much fly out of a slide but always land straight into the wind
and never toward shore. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Icy runway
> This is a picture of N6PJ taken this morning. For the last six days.,
> my airport has been under a heavy sheet of ice. My response is to stay
> at home in front of the fire, a hot toddy close at hand. But if I
> wanted to fly off of this stuff, would it be particularly dangerous?
> What are the special techniques for Tailwinding on ice. You Baraboo
> guys should have all the answers. Jerry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
Ivo's are notorious for falling apart. Ultralites used to use my
runway back in California and I witnessed several Ivo failures.
Amazing they are still in business. Jerry
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 05:53 PM, Bob Conner wrote:
> This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos.
> Anybody have any idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob
> 149
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
You know Bob......we all were concerned for you when we saw those
blades at Baraboo.. But, we thought we might learn something from you.
What we learned is..........they have killed in the past and they just
shouldn't be on our airplanes. We are sure happy you got to take the
picture. Please don't be tempted to fix them and use them again.
Get a prop from a friend and use it while you get one on order.
So glad to see that you could type an email after your visit to your
Granddaughter.......
Weav
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 02:53 PM, Bob Conner wrote:
> This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos.
> Anybody have any idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob
> 149
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
Bob:
I have heard (or read) a number of times that Ivo props and Lycoming engines don't
mix well, with the prop coming out the worst for the wear. You seem to be
proving it. Get a good wood or composit prop: Sterba, Catto, Prince, Culver,
or Felix all have good (some better depending on opinion) props for tailwinds.
Dave
N202Q
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Conner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; Tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos. Anybody have
any idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob 149
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bob Conner" <bdconner@hotmail.com>
Grandson!!!!!!! I had a friend get my old wood prop and fly it down to me. Put
it on and flew it back. It was 68 in. by 69 pitch. It was on the plane when I
bought it. It would only turn up to about 2300. I chopped it down to 66 in. and
took about 3/8 off the chord. It will turn 2500 now and the oil temp runs about
10 degrees cooler. Doesn't climb out nearly as good, seems to run pretty close
to the same speed maybe a little slower. I need to check the fuel tommorrow,
but I think it burns more fuel with the wood prop................Bob 149
From: Fred Weaver <MYTYWEAV@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
You know Bob......we all were concerned for you when we saw those
blades at Baraboo..But, we thought we might learn something from
you. What we learned is..........they have killed in the past and
they just shouldn't be on our airplanes. We are sure happy you got
to take the picture. Please don't be tempted to fix them and use
them again.
Get a prop from a friend and use it while you get one on order.
So glad to see that you could type an email after your visit to your
Granddaughter.......
Weav
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 02:53 PM, Bob Conner wrote:
This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos.
Anybody have any idea what woud make them split this way?????????
Bob 149
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bob Conner" <bdconner@hotmail.com>
I'll probably give Fred Felix a call. I know several people that fly with his props
and have been really satisfied.................Bob 149
From: "Dave M" <DMAGAW@ATT.NET>
Subject: QRe: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
Bob:
I have heard (or read) a number of times that Ivo props and Lycoming engines don't
mix well, with the prop coming out the worst for the wear.You seem to be proving
it.Get a good wood or composit prop:Sterba, Catto, Prince, Culver, or Felix
all have good (some better depending on opinion) props for tailwinds.
Dave
N202Q
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Conner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; Tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos. Anybody have
any idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob 149
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| Subject: | Re: I used to like my Ivo Prop |
Give Catto the nod.....
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 06:19 PM, Bob Conner wrote:
> I'll probably give Fred Felix a call. I know several people that fly
> with his props and have been really satisfied.................Bob 149
>
>
> >From: "Dave M"
>
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>
> >To:
>
> >Subject: QRe: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
>
> >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:48:01 -0800
>
> >
>
> >Bob:
>
> >I have heard (or read) a number of times that Ivo props and Lycoming
> engines don't mix well, with the prop coming out the worst for the
> wear.=A0=A0You seem to be proving it.=A0=A0Get a good wood or composit
> prop:=A0=A0Sterba, Catto, Prince, Culver, or Felix all have good (some
> better depending on opinion) props for tailwinds.
>
> >Dave
>
> >N202Q
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> >=A0=A0 ----- Original Message -----
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> >=A0=A0 From: Bob Conner
>
> >=A0=A0 To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; Tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >=A0=A0 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:53 PM
>
> >=A0=A0 Subject: Tailwind-List: I used to like my Ivo Prop
>
> >
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> >
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> >=A0=A0 This is what the blades looked like when I landed at San Marcos.
> Anybody have any idea what woud make them split this way????????? Bob
> 149
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