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1. 04:00 AM - Re: tax (IslPilot@aol.com)
2. 04:42 AM - Re: tax (john)
3. 05:24 AM - Re: pANEL (Brian Alley)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: tax (USAviator1@aol.com)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: strobes on the fin (Eric Schlanser)
6. 07:47 AM - Re: strobe light (Eric Schlanser)
7. 08:17 AM - Re: tax (Eric Schlanser)
8. 08:23 AM - Re: strobe light (Dave M)
9. 08:47 AM - Re: tax (Robert Ardis)
10. 10:05 AM - Re: strobes on the fin (Rick and Cindy)
11. 11:27 AM - Re: tax (Fred Weaver)
12. 02:09 PM - Re: tax (Kenneth Graves)
13. 03:06 PM - heat treat (Paul Holmes)
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John:
As a Michigander if you have your receipts for material purchased "In State"
where you have all ready paid sales tax, these areas are exempt. Check with
Doug Bell in CAD he should be very familiar.
Paul
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Paul; Dave Ford, put his RV-6, in the air this month and the Tax bureau
told him if he didn't have the receipts for the out of state items the plane
would be accessed at resale value and as your plane is not the first one we
have inspected, we have a vary good idea of what is in it. JohnD Don't
Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: IslPilot@aol.com
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tax
John:
As a Michigander if you have your receipts for material purchased "In
State" where you have all ready paid sales tax, these areas are exempt.
Check with Doug Bell in CAD he should be very familiar.
Paul
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Bill, I welded a thin plate inside the fuselage
(.025-.035) forward of the front door post and along
the tube that extends forward to the firewall. This is
the same as the H-stab forward mount only taller.
Drill 2 3/16 or 1/4 inch holes each side of the
fuselage and install nut plates. Bolt the panel in and
your done. The panel is flanged on the top, bottom and
sides. Unless you plan to install a complete IFR
panel, no additional bracing is required. The mounts
in my installion are visiable in the attached photo.
=====
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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Farmer John, maybe we should look at registering in another state.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: strobes on the fin |
Rick, Thanks for the description. How did you form the thin soft steel mounting
bracket?
Eric
Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@infionline.net> wrote:
Eric: The strobe mounting bracket was formed from thin soft steel to fit the lense
and rubber bulb holder. A small piece was cut from the top of the fin and
flattened piece of tubing was welded in for the wires to go throught, a couple
of 8-32 nuts were welded into the top tube of the fin to accept screws to mount
the strobe bracket.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Schlanser
Subject: Tailwind-List: strobes on the fin
Rick C and others, I noted your clever vertical fin strobe light installation at
Oshkosh and would like to know how you mounted it. A Whelen 650 strobe bulb
and lens is held down with a metal adapter sleeve screwed onto an existing wingtip
navlight assembly. However, you used only the strobe bulb and glass lens.
Then you made a custom mounting base and something to hold the bulb and lens
onto that base. How did you do that?
Thanks in advance,
Eric Schlanser - in Kalamazoo
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| Subject: | Re: strobe light |
John, Thanks for the description. Your mounting sounds a lot like Rick C's and
between the two I think I can work it out. Let's archive this message as it could
help somebody else someday. Eric
john <frmrjohn@netonecom.net> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john"
Eric; I purchased my strobe from Kunzelmann in Penn. It is a streamlined
unit with an adapter for tubing which I epoxyed to the top of the fin. I
drilled and welded in place,vertical, in the top fin tubing, a tubing of
1/4" i.d. for the wire to pass through and two 1/4" pcs. of rod 3/4" long,
drilled and tapped for #6 screw, which are also welded in the top fin tube
to accept the mounting screws. I layed the fabric over the top of the fin
and after it was positioned, I put a hole in the fabric for the strobe wire
with a small soldering iron. I then install the strobe and wire, so that
the wire could be secured inside the fin before the fabric was permanetly
attached. The fabric was heat formed around the base of the strobe and
looks nice. JohnD
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John, A recently launched builder, who shall remain unnamed here unless he reveals
himself in order to correct my version of events, told me that he told the
tax people in our fair state that his W-10 project was worth $9000. They accepted
his valuation and charged him the going rate, 6.5% I think, on the $9K. Since
they already know that a W-10 is worth $9K, I don't plan to try to argue
with them that I only have $8K invested in mine.
Steve, The state actually checks their registration list against a list of planes
hangared in Michigan which they require from the airport managers. If you rent
a hangar for your plane in Michigan and keep it here and do not register it,
the state will know about it and come after you. If you have a hangar in Ohio
and keep it there 50 weeks out of the year you should be OK.
Eric - do not archive
USAviator1@aol.com wrote:
Farmer John, maybe we should look at registering in another state.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: strobe light |
Just a caution on Kunzelmann strobe lights. I mounted a streamlined strobe on
the top of my vertical stab and one on the belly. The one on the belly works
fine and has lasted now for almost a year. It mounts to the thin aluminum ground
plane of the transponder antenna which is attached to the stringers under
the baggage area. However the one on the fin I had to replace 3 times, each lasting
one or two flights before the bulb shattered. I now have a streamline
wheelen strobe light on the vertical stab. It is much heavier duty, but it now
doesn't flash as brightly as when I first installed it. I don't think the Kunzelmann
flasher unit is up to the needs of the wheelen strobe bulb. I think
the vibration of taxiing and landing (generally tailwheel hits first) is the
cause of the vibration that wreaks the Kunzelmann bulbs on the vertical stab.
I attached it directly to the stab tubing. Trike drivers probably won't have
that problem. In any event, mount your lights so that they can be replaced if
necessary, and use connectors to allow the wires to be disconnected instead
of soldering them like I did the first times. My opinions and experience. Your
mileage will likely vary.
Dave
N202Q
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Schlanser
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: strobe light
John, Thanks for the description. Your mounting sounds a lot like Rick C's and
between the two I think I can work it out. Let's archive this message as it
could help somebody else someday. Eric
john <frmrjohn@netonecom.net> wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john"
Eric; I purchased my strobe from Kunzelmann in Penn. It is a streamlined
unit with an adapter for tubing which I epoxyed to the top of the fin. I
drilled and welded in place,vertical, in the top fin tubing, a tubing of
1/4" i.d. for the wire to pass through and two 1/4" pcs. of rod 3/4" long,
drilled and tapped for #6 screw, which are also welded in the top fin tube
to accept the mounting screws. I layed the fabric over the top of the fin
and after it was positioned, I put a hole in the fabric for the strobe wire
with a small soldering iron. I then install the strobe and wire, so that
the wire could be secured inside the fin before the fabric was permanetly
attached. The fabric was heat formed around the base of the strobe and
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Robert Ardis" <ardis_rb@hotmail.com>
Texas has a very good system on aircraft taxing. THERE IS NO TAX ON
PERSONALLY OWNED AIRCRAFT. In the case of a homebuilt built with parts and
material obtained out of state, there would be no sales tax either. Parts
and material purchased locally carries at least an 8%--even an 8.25% in most
cities here in Texas. Since there is no registration, as such, an FAA
issued title to the owner showing a Texas address would probably suffice to
avoid taxes for a period of time.
This "tax avoidance" technique has been a boon to Delaware where
thousands of corporations call it home instead of their "real" home state.
Robert Ardis
>From: USAviator1@aol.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tax
>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:54:51 EST
>
>Farmer John, maybe we should look at registering in another state.
>
>Steve
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| Subject: | Re: strobes on the fin |
Eric: Try to find some thin soft steel, a piece of a newer auto body fender will
do, for instance. I used a 16 oz ball pien hammer and various backing bars of
wood and steel to form the steel. If you buy a wing tip add on strobe, you can
use the keeper that comes with it for a guide.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Schlanser
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: strobes on the fin
Rick, Thanks for the description. How did you form the thin soft steel mounting
bracket?
Eric
Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@infionline.net> wrote:
Eric: The strobe mounting bracket was formed from thin soft steel to fit the
lense and rubber bulb holder. A small piece was cut from the top of the fin
and flattened piece of tubing was welded in for the wires to go throught, a couple
of 8-32 nuts were welded into the top tube of the fin to accept screws to
mount the strobe bracket.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Schlanser
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: strobes on the fin
Rick C and others, I noted your clever vertical fin strobe light installation
at Oshkosh and would like to know how you mounted it. A Whelen 650 strobe
bulb and lens is held down with a metal adapter sleeve screwed onto an existing
wingtip navlight assembly. However, you used only the strobe bulb and glass
lens. Then you made a custom mounting base and something to hold the bulb and
lens onto that base. How did you do that?
Thanks in advance,
Eric Schlanser - in Kalamazoo
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Yer gittin the hang of it....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Conrad" <dconrad@dwave.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tax
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Dave Conrad <dconrad@dwave.net>
>
> He probably built his plane with used parts he had laying around,
> right. Those wouldn't be worth much of anything. smily face, wink, wink.
> On Sunday, February 15, 2004, at 09:59 PM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Fred Weaver
> > <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Remember the words.... homemade airplane.. The appraised value
> > shouldn't be very high at all.... Got it? I can get in touch with
> > some of my Michigan friends to see what they had to do.. If you
> > want...?
> > Weav
> > On Sunday, February 15, 2004, at 06:44 PM, john wrote:
> >
> >> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
> >>
> >> Fred; Unfortunately I live in the bankrupt state of Michigan and
> >> either you
> >> pay on the value of the parts or the appraised finished project,
> >> which in
> >> most cases is two or three times higher. Since 1999, all tax is due
> >> with
> >> your state income tax each year, or the penalties add up faster than
> >> the
> >> price of the parts. Last year they added some new non taxes which
> >> they call
> >> fees, just in case you don't remember to pay the tax. We are still
> >> thankful
> >> that they still let use fly here. Started clearing the runway of snow
> >> today, hope to get in the air tomorrow, probably shouldn't use that
> >> word ,
> >> as tomorrow never comes. JohnD Don't Archive.
> >>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Kenneth Graves <kbgraves@yahoo.com>
I wonder if that's because of the Gas that we're
paying $1.79 for regular?
--- Robert Ardis <ardis_rb@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Robert Ardis"
> <ardis_rb@hotmail.com>
>
> Texas has a very good system on aircraft
> taxing. THERE IS NO TAX ON
> PERSONALLY OWNED AIRCRAFT. In the case of a
> homebuilt built with parts and
> material obtained out of state, there would be no
> sales tax either. Parts
> and material purchased locally carries at least an
> 8%--even an 8.25% in most
> cities here in Texas. Since there is no
> registration, as such, an FAA
> issued title to the owner showing a Texas address
> would probably suffice to
> avoid taxes for a period of time.
> This "tax avoidance" technique has been a boon
> to Delaware where
> thousands of corporations call it home instead of
> their "real" home state.
>
> Robert Ardis
>
> >From: USAviator1@aol.com
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tax
> >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:54:51 EST
> >
> >Farmer John, maybe we should look at registering in
> another state.
> >
> >Steve
>
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Jerry, Are the Lange gear legs received with your mount heat treated?
Paul pholmes@wmis.net
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