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1. 07:38 AM - Re: Dallas last week (Earl Luce)
2. 08:19 AM - Re: Dallas last week (Rick and Cindy)
3. 08:27 AM - Re: Wing glass work (james wright)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Wing glass work (Brian Alley)
5. 09:42 AM - Re: Wing glass work (Richard Lamb)
6. 09:53 AM - Re: Dallas last week (Cy Galley)
7. 11:52 AM - Re: Wing glass work (Dave Conrad)
8. 11:56 AM - Re: Wing glass work (Dave Conrad)
9. 11:57 AM - Re: Dallas last week (Dave Conrad)
10. 02:10 PM - Re: Dallas last week (Kenneth Graves)
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| Subject: | Re: Dallas last week |
So you think you got some snow ? This picture was taken a few miles down the road
from my airport . When do you think Buttercup will fly again ?
Earl Luce
----- Original Message -----
From: flamini2
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:00 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
not exactly good Tailwind weather!!! That is a UAL hat on the snowman.
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| Subject: | Re: Dallas last week |
Earl:
Move south.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
So you think you got some snow ? This picture was taken a few miles down the
road from my airport . When do you think Buttercup will fly again ?
Earl Luce
----- Original Message -----
From: flamini2
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:00 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
not exactly good Tailwind weather!!! That is a UAL hat on the snowman.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing glass work |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "james wright" <njwright@mw.net>
Did you sgueegee the first coat through the cloth or coat the wood
first? Jim Wright
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Wing glass work
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Gorgeous Dave..... Love the models in the background.
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Conrad" <dconrad@dwave.net>
> To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>; <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:44 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Wing glass work
>
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> > Last evening I put the 1.4oz glass cloth on the top of 1 wing panel.
> > This morning I put 1 more cote of resin on it and tonight I put the 3rd
> > cote on. I think it came out real nice. 1st cote used 7oz to adhere the
> > cloth. 2nd cote used 2oz and cote 1 used about 1.5oz. Dave Conrad
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing glass work |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Having done quite a bit of composite work, I highly
recommend you lay the cloth on the wing dry and
squeege the resin thru the cloth. If you apply the
resin first it will be very sticky and you will find
it near imposible to prevent air from being trapped
under the cloth once it becomes wet. Wrinkles in the
fabric will result. I always put the first layer of
cloth in my molds before applying resin. An extra tip
you will find helpful is to dab or pat the surface of
excess resin with folded up paper towls. Use the cheap
ones as they leave less paper fibers on your layup.
The areas where there is excess resin will show up as
wet shiney spots. Mix small batches or resin and work
from one end of the wing to the other smoothing out
the fabric as you go. Have a helper to mix resin and
maybe someone to dab or pat the areas you have already
wetted out before the resin begins to kick.
=====
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: Wing glass work |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
Brian Alley wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Having done quite a bit of composite work, I highly
> recommend you lay the cloth on the wing dry and
> squeege the resin thru the cloth. If you apply the
> resin first it will be very sticky and you will find
> it near imposible to prevent air from being trapped
> under the cloth once it becomes wet. Wrinkles in the
> fabric will result. I always put the first layer of
> cloth in my molds before applying resin. An extra tip
> you will find helpful is to dab or pat the surface of
> excess resin with folded up paper towls. Use the cheap
> ones as they leave less paper fibers on your layup.
> The areas where there is excess resin will show up as
> wet shiney spots. Mix small batches or resin and work
> from one end of the wing to the other smoothing out
> the fabric as you go. Have a helper to mix resin and
> maybe someone to dab or pat the areas you have already
> wetted out before the resin begins to kick.
>
> =====
> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
>
> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
>
>
>
I'll second Brian's recommendations and add one of my own.
On big lay-ups I sometimes premix several batches of resin and
store the batches in zip lock baggies in the refrigerator.
When the next batch is needed, pour the cool resin into a shallow
bowl, let it warm up a bit (you can tell by observing the viscosity
of the resin), and go for it.
Richard
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: Dallas last week |
Few Miles.... 500! <GRIN>
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick and Cindy
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
Earl:
Move south.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
So you think you got some snow ? This picture was taken a few miles down the
road from my airport . When do you think Buttercup will fly again ?
Earl Luce
----- Original Message -----
From: flamini2
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:00 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
not exactly good Tailwind weather!!! That is a UAL hat on the snowman.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing glass work |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Dave Conrad <dconrad@dwave.net>
Brian, My pictures were of the finished wing, Dry glass lay-up as you
stated, resin forced through the glass cloth. Thanks for clarifying for
the rest of the group. Dave Conrad
On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Having done quite a bit of composite work, I highly
> recommend you lay the cloth on the wing dry and
> squeege the resin thru the cloth. If you apply the
> resin first it will be very sticky and you will find
> it near imposible to prevent air from being trapped
> under the cloth once it becomes wet. Wrinkles in the
> fabric will result. I always put the first layer of
> cloth in my molds before applying resin. An extra tip
> you will find helpful is to dab or pat the surface of
> excess resin with folded up paper towls. Use the cheap
> ones as they leave less paper fibers on your layup.
> The areas where there is excess resin will show up as
> wet shiney spots. Mix small batches or resin and work
> from one end of the wing to the other smoothing out
> the fabric as you go. Have a helper to mix resin and
> maybe someone to dab or pat the areas you have already
> wetted out before the resin begins to kick.
>
> =====
> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
>
> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing glass work |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Dave Conrad <dconrad@dwave.net>
I highly recommend coating the wing with west system and letting it
completely dry for several days and then sand it with some med. paper.
(Make sure this is a very thin cote.) This will seal the wood and
prevent air bubbles coming up through the cloth when you apply it dry.
(resin forced through with squeegee. Dave Conrad
On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 11:28 AM, james wright wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "james wright" <njwright@mw.net>
>
> Did you sgueegee the first coat through the cloth or coat the wood
> first? Jim Wright
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Wing glass work
>
>
>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Gorgeous Dave..... Love the models in the background.
>> Weav
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Conrad" <dconrad@dwave.net>
>> To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>; <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Wing glass work
>>
>>
>>> Last evening I put the 1.4oz glass cloth on the top of 1 wing panel.
>>> This morning I put 1 more cote of resin on it and tonight I put the
>>> 3rd
>>> cote on. I think it came out real nice. 1st cote used 7oz to adhere
>>> the
>>> cloth. 2nd cote used 2oz and cote 1 used about 1.5oz. Dave Conrad
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Dallas last week |
Looks like a big batch of micro balloons!
On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 09:44 AM, Earl Luce wrote:
> So you think you got some snow ? This picture was taken a few miles
> down the road from my airport . When do you think Buttercup will fly
> again ?
> Earl Luce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: flamini2
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:00 AM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Dallas last week
>
> not exactly good Tailwind weather!!!=A0 That is a UAL hat on the snowman.
>
> <Fulton snow w blower 01-31-04.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Dallas last week |
You'll note that says Fulton Snow. That's where our Chapter 486 Hangar is. Went
to a Chapter Diner there last week. The President got up an stated " Don't worry
in Fulton if you can get in you can usually got out". We got out as soon after
the Dinner as possible.
Ken
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