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1. 04:56 AM - Re: Flight Speeds (William Bernard)
2. 11:32 AM - Bob Nuckolls Seminar (Jerry Hey)
3. 02:07 PM - Re: [TailwindForum] Bob Nuckolls Seminar (flamini2@comcast.net)
4. 05:34 PM - Re:Dick Martin's RV8 (Fred Weaver)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Speeds |
Jim, Thanks! Good advice to be conservative at first. I'm made the question sound
like I was a professional test pilot, which I'm not. I also don't know how
accurate the pitot static system will be. Hopefully, I'll know some answers soon.
Thanks again.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Clement
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Flight Speeds
Bill, a few suggestions. 100 for climb out is a little slow unless you want to
gain altitude in a hurry. You will be climing at about 1500 fpm and won't be
able to see over the nose, try 125-140mph. I use 110mph for flap speed. Start
out your approach speeds no lower than 80 mph untill you get the feel of things,
it is easy to get in a sink mode at 70. This is my suggestion only, others
may differ. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: William Bernard
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Flight Speeds
Well, I'm getting close to first flight (inspector is due here tomorrow) and
am trying to get some idea of various speeds to expect. I'e checked the Maronics
archives and found a suggestion that 100 mph is good for climb, flaps can
be lowered at 100 also, final approach is 70-75mph.
I got these numbers from Rick's posts describing his first flight. Are these
pretty much what everyone else uses?
Of course, the actual numbers I see will likely be different due to different
pitot and static systems, so I will have to determine these for myself. I'm
just looking for 'ballpark' stuff now.
Thanks for the help.
Bill
N40WB
(waitin' on the inpsector)
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| Subject: | Bob Nuckolls Seminar |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Bob Nuckolls held one of his AeroElectric seminars in Kalamazoo Mich
last weekend. It was arranged by the local EAA chapter. There were 24
attendees. Three Tailwinders showed up: Eric Schlanser, Kalamazoo,
Rich Wells, Louisville and myself Northern Indiana. The Schlansers
generously opened their house to Rich and his wife Nicole and to me.
Saved us all a motel bill and more importantly, gave us a chance to
gather around Eric's project and talk Tailwinds.
The AeroElectric seminar was fantastic. The recurring theme was to
design the electrical system so that no likely failure mode could
cause a crash. Another theme was the design of the ground circuit in
such a way that "noise" is eliminated. Bob is a hand's on" teacher so
while he was talking we were practicing using various splicing and
crimping tools. The Tailwind Times will carry a full report in the
issue after next. We will try to apply the lessons learned to the
Tailwind and come up with a really good schematic plus information of
relays, contactors, switches and so on that will get the job done.
Rich Wells has volunteered to do the heavy lifting on this project.
The next TT, to be mailed April 15, is issue 16 and the issue on
electronics will be # 17 which will be mailed July 15.
Richard Martin who claims to have the fastest RV in the world attended.
He is associated with TruTrak autopilot. They have just developed an
instrument called a " Pictorial Turn Coordinator." He had one with
him for us to look at. It is a totally digital, no gyros involved.
It can be bought to fill either a small or large instrument hole. It
only requires about 4 inches behind the panel. Although the prototype
did not have it, the production version will also indicate vertical
rate of climb. This is a pretty cool instrument and it is only $399.00
as an introductory price. I think I may buy one for my instrument
panel. You can see the "Pictorial Turn Coordinator" at
www.trutrakflightsystems.com.
If you have a chance to attend an AeroElectric seminar, do it. It
is worth every penny. Jerry
J-Wind Designs/Tailwind Times
3790 S. 600 W.
Albion, Indiana 46701
260-799-4507
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| Subject: | Re: [TailwindForum] Bob Nuckolls Seminar |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: flamini2@comcast.net
Jerry,
You can't mention speed without getting our attention.
Here is the only race i was in with Dick Martin and several RV's beat him.
The prerace briefing was a blast.
Dennis in Dallas from Chicago.
Paul MPH TIME CLASS PLACE # NAME N # AIRPLANE
293.26 19.31 300.00 1st 1 Michael Dacey N712 Venture
264.25 21.43 200.00 1st 8 David W. Anders N230A RV4
252.58 22.42 100.00 1st 26 Klaus Savier N57LG Varieze
251.57 22.51 180.00 1st 3 Mark Raviriski N360K8 Lancair
360
244.41 23.17 180.00 2nd 15 Bruce Hammer N9ILH Glasair
TD
241.18 23.48 180.00 3rd 5 Char1es A. Werner N749CC Lancair
360
240.77 23.52 180.00 4th 4 Halvor Johansen NILC Lancair
360
240.57 23.54 180.00 5th 14 Ron Stacey N242RS Glasair
IIS
235.46 24.05 180.00 6th 9 Tracey Saylor N25TS RV-6
233.04 24.30 180.00 7th 13 Steven Hammer N735H Glasair
231.71 24.44 200.00 2nd 7 Richard K Martin N233M RV-8
230.67 24.55 180.00 8th 10 Richard S. Jankowski N241R8 RV-6
221.99 25.51 180.00 9th 16 Donald W. Saint N952W Glasair
216.97 26.10 160.00 1st 21 Robert Wagner N791RW Mustang
II
215.98 26.22 100.00 2nd 23 Tom Moore N32ITM Quickie
214.26 26.43 160.00 2nd 20 William Robin Young N286YM Glasair
TD
208.96 27.10 180.00 10th 12 Francis H Smith N83F5 RV4
205.70 27.53 160.00 3rd 11 Bob Goodman N311U RV4
198.98 28.46 160.00 4th 6 Fayette McElhannon N7198M Glasair
RG
198.49 28.53 180.00 11th 17 Dennis Flamini N4J8 Tailwind
141.57 40.00 99.00 1st 24 Rick Thompson
141.57 40.00 100.00 22 James E. Guldi N3992A Tailwind
W8
141.57 40.00 300.00 2 Bob Schmidt N425V Venture
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| Subject: | Re:Dick Martin's RV8 |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
There is only a small catch in the way you wrote this Jerry.... Dick
has a very nice and very fast RV8. I believe he might have the fastest
RV8 but as you could see from Flamini's post, Dave Anders definitely
lays claim to the fastest RV period. Both of these fine airplanes share
the same type of baffling manufactured now by Sam James in Florida. I'd
like to point out at the same time to Dennis that there was only ONE
other RV that beat Martin at that race. "IF" Dick Martin has been
beat by other RV's in a race, it could only have been caused by a
mechanical or electrical problem of some sort. His plane is clean and
fast but I think there are a couple of Tailwinds that could hold their
own while racing him.... :) And they don't have 200 hp or constant
speed props!
Weav
On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Jerry Hey wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Bob Nuckolls held one of his AeroElectric seminars in Kalamazoo Mich
> last weekend.
> <snip>
> Richard Martin who claims to have the fastest RV in the world
> attended. He is associated with TruTrak autopilot. They have just
> developed an instrument called a " Pictorial Turn Coordinator." He
> had one with him for us to look at. It is a totally digital, no
> gyros involved. It can be bought to fill either a small or large
> instrument hole. It only requires about 4 inches behind the panel.
> Although the prototype did not have it, the production version will
> also indicate vertical rate of climb. This is a pretty cool instrument
> and it is only $399.00 as an introductory price. I think I may buy
> one for my instrument panel. You can see the "Pictorial Turn
> Coordinator" at www.trutrakflightsystems.com.
>
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