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1. 02:26 PM - Brake Master Cylinders (William Bernard)
2. 02:35 PM - Re: Brake Master Cylinders (Jim and Donna Clement)
3. 02:38 PM - tank vent (Paul Holmes)
4. 02:55 PM - Re: tank vent (Jim and Donna Clement)
5. 03:59 PM - Re: Brake Master Cylinders (Cy Galley)
6. 04:23 PM - vent (Paul Holmes)
7. 07:33 PM - Re: Brake Master Cylinders (Rich Ellis)
8. 08:27 PM - Re: Brake Master Cylinders (Jim and Donna Clement)
9. 08:36 PM - Re: vent (mlinda@wt.net)
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| Subject: | Brake Master Cylinders |
Without going into the gorey details, it appears advisable that I replace the brake
master cylinders. The present ones are Cleveland 10-55s and are old enough
to vote. I'm thinking about replacing them with Matco MT-MC4 cylinders but...
1) Has anyone used these master cylinders with Cleveland brakes? If so how have
they held up in service?
2) Since the Matco master cylinders are shorter than the Clevelands they would
replace, I have to modify the brake pedals to lower the arm a bit, probably about
3/4 inch. The arm is already at the mid point of the brake pedal vertical
tube. I suspect that lowering it a bit more will be to the good, but I'd like
another opinion before I cut things up.
Thanks for the ideas
Bill
(Fixin' stuff after I thought I was done!)
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Master Cylinders |
Bill, use the Matco's and lower the arm on the pedal. Been using them in most all
my TWs with no problems. The others at Baraboo use them also. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: William Bernard
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Brake Master Cylinders
Without going into the gorey details, it appears advisable that I replace the
brake master cylinders. The present ones are Cleveland 10-55s and are old enough
to vote. I'm thinking about replacing them with Matco MT-MC4 cylinders but...
1) Has anyone used these master cylinders with Cleveland brakes? If so how have
they held up in service?
2) Since the Matco master cylinders are shorter than the Clevelands they would
replace, I have to modify the brake pedals to lower the arm a bit, probably
about 3/4 inch. The arm is already at the mid point of the brake pedal vertical
tube. I suspect that lowering it a bit more will be to the good, but I'd like
another opinion before I cut things up.
Thanks for the ideas
Bill
(Fixin' stuff after I thought I was done!)
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I need some advice on tank vent placement. Anybody?
Paul Holmes
Horton, MI
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Paul, On 168A I ran a line from the filler neck up the passenger side windshield
frame. It then curved around and fastened to a aluminum tube protruding about
1" from the wing root fairing. Tube and fittings should be at least 1/4" ID.
A vent coming out of the cap facing forward also works if the cap isn't put on
backwards. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Holmes
To: Tailwind-list
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: tank vent
I need some advice on tank vent placement. Anybody?
Paul Holmes
Horton, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Master Cylinders |
Why not just rebuilt them? The only thing that wears are the o-rings. There is
a small one in the bottom of the piston.
----- Original Message -----
From: William Bernard
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Brake Master Cylinders
Without going into the gorey details, it appears advisable that I replace the
brake master cylinders. The present ones are Cleveland 10-55s and are old enough
to vote. I'm thinking about replacing them with Matco MT-MC4 cylinders but...
1) Has anyone used these master cylinders with Cleveland brakes? If so how have
they held up in service?
2) Since the Matco master cylinders are shorter than the Clevelands they would
replace, I have to modify the brake pedals to lower the arm a bit, probably
about 3/4 inch. The arm is already at the mid point of the brake pedal vertical
tube. I suspect that lowering it a bit more will be to the good, but I'd like
another opinion before I cut things up.
Thanks for the ideas
Bill
(Fixin' stuff after I thought I was done!)
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Jim, Thanks for the vent design.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Master Cylinders |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rich Ellis <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
Jim C,
Are you using the Matco MC4 or MC5 model? rle
--- Jim and Donna Clement <168x@merr.com> wrote:
> Bill, use the Matco's and lower the arm on the
> pedal. Been using them in most all my TWs with no
> problems. The others at Baraboo use them also. Jim
> C
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Bernard
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ;
> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Brake Master Cylinders
>
>
> Without going into the gorey details, it appears
> advisable that I replace the brake master cylinders.
> The present ones are Cleveland 10-55s and are old
> enough to vote. I'm thinking about replacing them
> with Matco MT-MC4 cylinders but...
>
> 1) Has anyone used these master cylinders with
> Cleveland brakes? If so how have they held up in
> service?
>
> 2) Since the Matco master cylinders are shorter
> than the Clevelands they would replace, I have to
> modify the brake pedals to lower the arm a bit,
> probably about 3/4 inch. The arm is already at the
> mid point of the brake pedal vertical tube. I
> suspect that lowering it a bit more will be to the
> good, but I'd like another opinion before I cut
> things up.
>
> Thanks for the ideas
>
> Bill
> (Fixin' stuff after I thought I was done!)
>
>
=====
Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
Gundersen Lutheran Health System
Co-Director
Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
1900 South Avenue
La Crosse, WI 54601
800.362.9567, ext. 52102
rjrellis@yahoo.com
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Master Cylinders |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
MC5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Ellis" <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Brake Master Cylinders
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rich Ellis <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
>
> Jim C,
>
> Are you using the Matco MC4 or MC5 model? rle
>
> --- Jim and Donna Clement <168x@merr.com> wrote:
> > Bill, use the Matco's and lower the arm on the
> > pedal. Been using them in most all my TWs with no
> > problems. The others at Baraboo use them also. Jim
> > C
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: William Bernard
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ;
> > TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: Tailwind-List: Brake Master Cylinders
> >
> >
> > Without going into the gorey details, it appears
> > advisable that I replace the brake master cylinders.
> > The present ones are Cleveland 10-55s and are old
> > enough to vote. I'm thinking about replacing them
> > with Matco MT-MC4 cylinders but...
> >
> > 1) Has anyone used these master cylinders with
> > Cleveland brakes? If so how have they held up in
> > service?
> >
> > 2) Since the Matco master cylinders are shorter
> > than the Clevelands they would replace, I have to
> > modify the brake pedals to lower the arm a bit,
> > probably about 3/4 inch. The arm is already at the
> > mid point of the brake pedal vertical tube. I
> > suspect that lowering it a bit more will be to the
> > good, but I'd like another opinion before I cut
> > things up.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas
> >
> > Bill
> > (Fixin' stuff after I thought I was done!)
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
> Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
> Gundersen Lutheran Health System
> Co-Director
> Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
> 1900 South Avenue
> La Crosse, WI 54601
> 800.362.9567, ext. 52102
> rjrellis@yahoo.com
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: mlinda@wt.net
Quoting Paul Holmes <pholmes@wmis.net>:
> Jim, Thanks for the vent design.
> Paul
>
Mine is a 1/4"aluminum tub that I ran down and exits out of the rear of the
cowling near the top of the right side landing gear so if you get in rain, the
rain will have a hard time running uphill and never get in the tank. The tube
still faces forward to pressurize the tank. Ralph N710DH
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