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Fri 04/02/04


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 12:15 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
     2. 05:47 AM - Flew It! (William Bernard)
     3. 06:23 AM - Re: Flew It! (Dave Conrad)
     4. 06:29 AM - Re: Flew It! (Graham Mitchell)
     5. 07:44 AM - Re: Flew It! (USAviator1@aol.com)
     6. 08:43 AM - Re: Flew It! (Fred Weaver)
     7. 09:32 AM - Re: Flew It! (Eric Schlanser)
     8. 11:06 AM - Re: Flew It! (IslPilot@aol.com)
     9. 12:10 PM - Re: Flew It! (von Allmen Guido)
    10. 03:19 PM - Re: Flew It! (Rick and Cindy)
    11. 05:21 PM - Re: Flew It! (Alex Frizzell)
    12. 07:04 PM - Re: Flew It! (Brian Alley)
    13. 07:25 PM - Re: Panal (Bill newkirk)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:14 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Tailwind-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Tailwind-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Tailwind-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Tailwind-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Tailwind-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Tailwind-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]


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    Time: 05:47:10 AM PST US
    From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
    "James Doyle" <jdoyle1941@worldnet.att.net>, <tailwind-list@matronics.com>, <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: Flew It!
    Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill


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    Time: 06:23:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    From: Dave Conrad <dconrad@dwave.net>
    Congrats Bill! Now you have a weekend project adjusting stuff. Have fun, be careful! Dave Conrad On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 07:51 AM, William Bernard wrote: > Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about > 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. > It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I > decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the > out of trim condition. > > VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. > > It really was fun and a blast. > > Just had to let somebody know. > > Bill


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    Time: 06:29:30 AM PST US
    From: Graham Mitchell <gmitchell@coastcomposites.com>
    Subject: Flew It!
    Congratulations Bill: Can't wait to hear more reports. Graham Mitchell. -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Bernard TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Tailwind-List: Flew It! Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'> <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'>VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23 mp and 2450 rpm. <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'> <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'>It really was fun and a blast. <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'> <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'>Just had to let somebody know. <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'> <p classMsoNormal style'margin-left:.5in'><span style'font-size:12.0pt'>Bill _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply email or call the=A0IT Department at 949.455.0665 x125 and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.


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    Time: 07:44:17 AM PST US
    From: USAviator1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Hey! Congratulations Bill!! Steve -in Michigan


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    Time: 08:43:06 AM PST US
    From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Great news Bill! The pitch condition is fairly easy to resolve but the wing heaviness can take a few minutes. Depending on how heavy it felt, I generally start by making sure the flaps line up again after you have flown it. If the entire trailing edge is lined up from left to right, make sure that the bottom camber is lined up with the lower camber of the airfoil. All too often, I've seen where the guys sorta split the difference and this results in a "Pitch Down" feel/condition. By raising both flaps and ailerons about an 1/8 to 3/16", it allows the stab to relax a little. This improves the speed more than you think too.. A trim wedge underneath the right aileron will allow you to comfortably go fly some more to check out the new trailedge position along with any stab change you might have done at the same time. It's always better to trim an aileron up from the bottom than visa/versa.. I'm sure your weekend will be consumed with trim flights and zooming along. Have fun, and enjoy the process, Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: William Bernard To: Larry Weishaar ; James Doyle ; tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:51 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Flew It! Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill


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    Time: 09:32:31 AM PST US
    From: Eric Schlanser <eschlanser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the news. You are an inspiration. Eric do not archive William Bernard <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> wrote: Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:06:42 AM PST US
    From: IslPilot@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Congratulations, Bill! Paul Charlevoix, MI


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    Time: 12:10:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    From: von Allmen Guido <lapulce@freesurf.ch>
    Congratulations, Bill ! Keep us informed of your further test flights. Guido and all The Swiss guys


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    Time: 03:19:47 PM PST US
    From: "Rick and Cindy" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Biill: CONGRATS to you and 40WB! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: William Bernard To: Larry Weishaar ; James Doyle ; tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Flew It! Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill


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    Time: 05:21:52 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Frizzell" <CARRXW10@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 19:21:36 -0600 GREAT! ! ! Bill, very happy for you. Got to be an exhilarating feeling. Can't wait for mine. Be safe and enjoy. Alex Auburn, Al. ----- Original Message ----- From: William Bernard To: Larry Weishaar ; James Doyle ; tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:51 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Flew It! Just got back from the first flight in N40WB. The event lasted about 15 minutes. I wish I could say that it flew hands off, but it didn't. It was left wing heavy and nose heavy. Things were controllable but I decided against too much investigation of the flight envelope with the out of trim condition. VERY PRELIMINARY estimate of speed is 155 mph at 23" mp and 2450 rpm. It really was fun and a blast. Just had to let somebody know. Bill


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    Time: 07:04:23 PM PST US
    From: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Flew It!
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com> Fantastic, Welcome to the club!!! ===== BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?


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    Time: 07:25:32 PM PST US
    From: "Bill newkirk" <bilnewkirk@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Panal
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 19:24:42 -0800 Brian; Received the panel yesterday. Looks great. Now I've got to figure how to fasten it. Thanks, Bill newkirk, Prather CA BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck? http://www.matronics.com/chat<http://www.matronics.com/chat> tailwind-list@matronics.com<mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com> http://www.matronics.com/subscription<http://www.matronics.com/subscription> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Tailwind-List.htm<http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Tailwind-List.htm> http://www.matronics.com/search<http://www.matronics.com/search> http://www.matronics.com/browse/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/browse/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/digest/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/digest/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/chat<http://www.matronics.com/chat> http://www.matronics.com/archives<http://www.matronics.com/archives> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare<http://www.matronics.com/photoshare> http://www.matronics.com/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists<http://www.matronics.com/emaillists> report> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>




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