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1. 04:34 AM - Flight test progress (William Bernard)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Flight test progress (dmagaw@att.net)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: Interesting (Robert Ardis)
4. 12:13 PM - Re: Flight test progress (William Bernard)
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| Subject: | Flight test progress |
Tailwind testing is going pretty well so far. I've got things tweaked so that it
will fly hands and feet off in smooth air. It took a bit of adjustment of the
flaps and ailerons, lowering the horizontal stabilizer leading edge and a tab
on the rudder.
I've stalled it (power off, no bank, forward C.G) with and without flaps. Indicated
stall speed was 55 flaps up and about 51-52 flaps down. The interesting thing
was that with full aft stick, the nose did not drop through, but only pitched
down slightly and the aircraft continued to settle at about 700 fpm. I'm
sure other stalls can be more interesting, but I'm impressed.
The aircraft is easily controllable and has good control response. The only problem
I've had so far is making consistently good landings. Most of them have been
kind of like 'Navy Landings' - hit with a big THUMP. Approach speed has been
about 80 on final to avoid a high sink rate that others have mentioned. Suggestions
are appreciated.
I'm now exploring the handling with increased weights I have 130 lbs of ballast
in the right seat.
Got just over 13 hours so far.
Bill
N40WB
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| Subject: | Re: Flight test progress |
Bill:
Sounds like you are having great fun. You description of the power off stall is
very typical tailwind behavior. Go up a few thousand feet more than usual so
you have some room to play, then put in a power off stall. Hold the stick back
and try your ailerons and rudder. You will find them quite effective still.
You wouldn't hardly know the plane wasn't flying except for the high descent
rate.
In a power on stall, you will have to get the nose up unreasonably high, and it
will break then, usually falling off one way or the other very suddenly. My
W-8 always broke to the right. Need to be quick on the rudder to catch it.
However, I have never tried really kicking the rudder and putting a tailwind into
a spin, though have done many in a Pitts. A tailwind will do an OK roll, although
slow compared to a Pitts.
Landings are a matter of getting the feel for the plane, and the trikes land just
like the taildraggers--need to hold it off just above the runway until it won't
fly, and the stick is back (though not all the way). I usually get to high,
and it drops some, but I am getting much better with some practice. I try
to keep the nose wheel off the runway as long as possible. Another problem I
used to do more than now, is flair to much and bob back up a bit. Then I was
to high when it quit flying. I try to flair to level and then keep pulling back
hold it off until it quits flying.
Have fun!
Dave
From: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Flight test progress
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Tailwind testing is going pretty well so far. I've got things tweaked so that it
will fly hands and feet off in smooth air. It took a bit of adjustment of the
flaps and ailerons, lowering the horizontal stabilizer leading edge and a tab
on the rudder.
I've stalled it (power off, no bank, forward C.G) with and without flaps. Indicated
stall speed was 55 flaps up and about 51-52 flaps down. The interesting thing
was that with full aft stick, the nose did not drop through, but only pitched
down slightly and the aircraft continued to settle at about 700 fpm. I'm
sure other stalls can be more interesting, but I'm impressed.
The aircraft is easily controllable and has good control response. The only problem
I've had so far is making consistently good landings. Most of them have been
kind of like 'Navy Landings' - hit with a big THUMP. Approach speed has been
about 80 on final to avoid a high sink rate that others have mentioned. Suggestions
are appreciated.
I'm now exploring the handling with increased weights I have 130 lbs of ballast
in the right seat.
Got just over 13 hours so far.
Bill
N40WB
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Tailwind testing is going pretty well so far. I've got things tweaked so
that it will fly hands and feet off in smooth air. It took a bit of adjustment
of the flaps and ailerons, lowering the horizontal stabilizer leading edge and
a
tab on the rudder.
I've stalled it (power off, no bank, forward C.G) with and without flaps.
Indicated stall speed was 55 flaps up and about 51-52 flaps down. The
interesting thing was that with full aft stick, the nose did not drop through,
but only pitched down slightly and the aircraft continued to settle at about 700
fpm. I'm sure other stalls can be more interesting, but I'm impressed.
The aircraft is easily controllable and has good control response. The only
problem I've had so far is making consistently good landings. Most of them have
been kind of like 'Navy Landings' - hit with a big THUMP. Approach speed has
been about 80 on final to avoid a high sink rate that others have mentioned.
Suggestions are appreciated.
I'm now exploring the handling with increased weights I have 130 lbs of
ballast in the right seat.
Got just over 13 hours so far.
Bill
N40WB
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Robert Ardis" <ardis_rb@hotmail.com>
What did Dennis mean by "if you are not married"? My wife wanted to know.
>From: "Dennis Flamini" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: "tailwind-list@matronics.c" <tailwind-list@matronics.com>,
><TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Interesting
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:24:18 -0500
>
>i came across this at Hicks, looks great if you are not married.
>
>Dennis in Dallas
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight test progress |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
Dan, Jim, Dave, Thanks for the advice. Since this morning's post, I've been
flying. I found that if I slow down a bit, to about 70-75 over the 'fence',
and carry a little power, the landings are much better.
I've been tending to flare too high and probably rising a bit after
initiating the flare. The result was a hard landing. The nose doesn't seem
to come down quite so fast at more aft CGs. With me and almost full fuel.
the CG is near the forward limit. I may end up carrying some lead shot in
the back when flying solo.
Heaviest weight so far is about 1465 pounds. Right now, I've got the plane
loaded for a test at or near gross weight, which I've set at 1600 pounds.
I'm amazed at how 'solid' it feels at the low end of the speed range. It
really doesn't feel squirrley at 70 mph indicated at all. Top speed at 3000
msl, 27 inHg and about 2800 rpm is 175 mph indicated. The GPS gave an
average ground speed of 166 mph.
Thanks again for the advice.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <dmagaw@att.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Flight test progress
> Bill:
> Sounds like you are having great fun. You description of the power off
stall is very typical tailwind behavior. Go up a few thousand feet more
than usual so you have some room to play, then put in a power off stall.
Hold the stick back and try your ailerons and rudder. You will find them
quite effective still. You wouldn't hardly know the plane wasn't flying
except for the high descent rate.
>
> In a power on stall, you will have to get the nose up unreasonably high,
and it will break then, usually falling off one way or the other very
suddenly. My W-8 always broke to the right. Need to be quick on the rudder
to catch it.
>
> However, I have never tried really kicking the rudder and putting a
tailwind into a spin, though have done many in a Pitts. A tailwind will do
an OK roll, although slow compared to a Pitts.
>
> Landings are a matter of getting the feel for the plane, and the trikes
land just like the taildraggers--need to hold it off just above the runway
until it won't fly, and the stick is back (though not all the way). I
usually get to high, and it drops some, but I am getting much better with
some practice. I try to keep the nose wheel off the runway as long as
possible. Another problem I used to do more than now, is flair to much and
bob back up a bit. Then I was to high when it quit flying. I try to flair
to level and then keep pulling back hold it off until it quits flying.
>
> Have fun!
> Dave
>
>
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