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1. 05:28 AM - Master cylinder (Jerry Hey)
2. 05:36 AM - Tailwind Times (Jerry Hey)
3. 09:09 AM - Re: Master cylinder (Fred Weaver)
4. 12:53 PM - Re: Master cylinder (Jerry Hey)
5. 02:14 PM - Re: Master cylinder (Fred Weaver)
6. 02:53 PM - Re: Master cylinder (Jerry Hey)
7. 03:40 PM - Re: Master cylinder (Jim and Donna Clement)
8. 05:49 PM - Buttercup (Earl Luce)
9. 06:22 PM - Re: Master cylinder (Jerry Hey)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
comments? Jerry
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Issue #16 of the Tailwind Times is now being printed. Feature articles
include applying glass to the wing, building the wing fittings, a two
page pictorial of outstanding craftsmanship, an adaptor to convert the
axle to accept larger wheels, plus Aaron King Jr.'s continuing series
on the life and Times of Steve Wittman. Should be mailed in about a
week. Jerry
J-Wind Designs/Tailwind Times
3790 S. 600 W.
Albion, Indiana 46701
260-799-4507
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no.... Do them
like Jim C's...
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
> comments? Jerry
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Hi Fred, in a related question, a couple of times in heavy
crosswinds when getting on the rudders, I have also accidentally
hit the brakes. Not hard, but I could hear them dragging. I think
that if the rudder pedal tread was a little higher from the floor I
would be less likely to accidentally activate the brakes. What do you
think?
Just checked the plans: The axle center to rudder tread center in
the TW plans is 5.250 inches. Same style pedal in the acro sport,
this distance is 6 inches. The TW brake tread is 2.5 inches above the
rudder pedal while on the Acro Sport it is 3.375 inches. So the Acro
Sport brake is 9.375 inches above the floor. The TW brake is 7.75
inches above the floor. I think the Acro Sport pedals would fit my
size 10s better than the TW pedals. Wonder why the TW pedals are the
way they are? Knowing Steve, there is probably a good reason.
BTW, I seem to remember the RV6 master cylinder being set up to pivot
with the rudder pedal. Axle is above of course. I have not seen that
set up in years, so I may be wrong. How it is done on the Rocket?
Jerry
On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Fred Weaver wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no.... Do
> them
> like Jim C's...
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:28 AM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>
>
>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>
>> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
>> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
>> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
>> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
>> comments? Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
I'm sure you could position the "Tread" at any point you want.. for both
Rudder and Brake. I could be wrong but don't think so. However, you want to
hold the bottom of the Master still when you rotate the pedal. Why?
Because, if you push full rudder deflection in a botched landing and you
still need some brake, it won't be there as your foot is already whacking
the backside of the firewall. I'm not sure if all Tailwinds are like that
but I owned one that ran out of brake sometimes during critical crosswind
corrections..whew!
The two airplanes that I've owned that Jim built, just work very good with
no problems whatsoever.
Good Luck....and go get some flying in. Isn't it springtime out there? You
should be flying that plane, not working on it.
Have Fun!
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Hi Fred, in a related question, a couple of times in heavy
> crosswinds when getting on the rudders, I have also accidentally
> hit the brakes. Not hard, but I could hear them dragging. I think
> that if the rudder pedal tread was a little higher from the floor I
> would be less likely to accidentally activate the brakes. What do you
> think?
>
> Just checked the plans: The axle center to rudder tread center in
> the TW plans is 5.250 inches. Same style pedal in the acro sport,
> this distance is 6 inches. The TW brake tread is 2.5 inches above the
> rudder pedal while on the Acro Sport it is 3.375 inches. So the Acro
> Sport brake is 9.375 inches above the floor. The TW brake is 7.75
> inches above the floor. I think the Acro Sport pedals would fit my
> size 10s better than the TW pedals. Wonder why the TW pedals are the
> way they are? Knowing Steve, there is probably a good reason.
>
> BTW, I seem to remember the RV6 master cylinder being set up to pivot
> with the rudder pedal. Axle is above of course. I have not seen that
> set up in years, so I may be wrong. How it is done on the Rocket?
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no.... Do
> > them
> > like Jim C's...
> > Weav
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:28 AM
> > Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> >
> >
> >> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
> >> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> >>
> >> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
> >> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
> >> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
> >> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
> >> comments? Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Three days of crap and then a "better" day. That is how it has been
this spring. Mostly just wind. I flew last week in 90cross winds
gusting to 20. Three landings that were not good at all. It was a
real battle but N6PJ and I survived. I will change nothing on this
neat little plane. The new pedals are for the W-10 project. Jerry
On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 04:14 PM, Fred Weaver wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm sure you could position the "Tread" at any point you want.. for
> both
> Rudder and Brake. I could be wrong but don't think so. However, you
> want to
> hold the bottom of the Master still when you rotate the pedal. Why?
> Because, if you push full rudder deflection in a botched landing and
> you
> still need some brake, it won't be there as your foot is already
> whacking
> the backside of the firewall. I'm not sure if all Tailwinds are like
> that
> but I owned one that ran out of brake sometimes during critical
> crosswind
> corrections..whew!
> The two airplanes that I've owned that Jim built, just work very good
> with
> no problems whatsoever.
>
> Good Luck....and go get some flying in. Isn't it springtime out there?
> You
> should be flying that plane, not working on it.
> Have Fun!
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>
>
>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>
>> Hi Fred, in a related question, a couple of times in heavy
>> crosswinds when getting on the rudders, I have also accidentally
>> hit the brakes. Not hard, but I could hear them dragging. I think
>> that if the rudder pedal tread was a little higher from the floor I
>> would be less likely to accidentally activate the brakes. What do you
>> think?
>>
>> Just checked the plans: The axle center to rudder tread center in
>> the TW plans is 5.250 inches. Same style pedal in the acro sport,
>> this distance is 6 inches. The TW brake tread is 2.5 inches above
>> the
>> rudder pedal while on the Acro Sport it is 3.375 inches. So the Acro
>> Sport brake is 9.375 inches above the floor. The TW brake is 7.75
>> inches above the floor. I think the Acro Sport pedals would fit my
>> size 10s better than the TW pedals. Wonder why the TW pedals are the
>> way they are? Knowing Steve, there is probably a good reason.
>>
>> BTW, I seem to remember the RV6 master cylinder being set up to pivot
>> with the rudder pedal. Axle is above of course. I have not seen that
>> set up in years, so I may be wrong. How it is done on the Rocket?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>>
>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
>>> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no.... Do
>>> them
>>> like Jim C's...
>>> Weav
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:28 AM
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>>>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>>>
>>>> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
>>>> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
>>>> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
>>>> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
>>>> comments? Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Don't mount the bottom of the brake cylinder so it swings with the rudder
pedal. Mount the bottom stationary to the floor and parallel to the rudder
pedals when in a upright position. The arm coming off the brake pedal should
be mounted no higher than 1/2 way up the brake pedal, not at the top as
shown in the plans. The lower the arm on the brake pedal, the better the
brakes work. It also might help if you make the rudder part of the assy. one
inch higher so the bottom brake cylinder mount doesn't mount below the belly
panel. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Three days of crap and then a "better" day. That is how it has been
> this spring. Mostly just wind. I flew last week in 90cross winds
> gusting to 20. Three landings that were not good at all. It was a
> real battle but N6PJ and I survived. I will change nothing on this
> neat little plane. The new pedals are for the W-10 project. Jerry
>
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 04:14 PM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > I'm sure you could position the "Tread" at any point you want.. for
> > both
> > Rudder and Brake. I could be wrong but don't think so. However, you
> > want to
> > hold the bottom of the Master still when you rotate the pedal. Why?
> > Because, if you push full rudder deflection in a botched landing and
> > you
> > still need some brake, it won't be there as your foot is already
> > whacking
> > the backside of the firewall. I'm not sure if all Tailwinds are like
> > that
> > but I owned one that ran out of brake sometimes during critical
> > crosswind
> > corrections..whew!
> > The two airplanes that I've owned that Jim built, just work very good
> > with
> > no problems whatsoever.
> >
> > Good Luck....and go get some flying in. Isn't it springtime out there?
> > You
> > should be flying that plane, not working on it.
> > Have Fun!
> > Weav
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> >
> >
> >> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
> >> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> >>
> >> Hi Fred, in a related question, a couple of times in heavy
> >> crosswinds when getting on the rudders, I have also accidentally
> >> hit the brakes. Not hard, but I could hear them dragging. I think
> >> that if the rudder pedal tread was a little higher from the floor I
> >> would be less likely to accidentally activate the brakes. What do you
> >> think?
> >>
> >> Just checked the plans: The axle center to rudder tread center in
> >> the TW plans is 5.250 inches. Same style pedal in the acro sport,
> >> this distance is 6 inches. The TW brake tread is 2.5 inches above
> >> the
> >> rudder pedal while on the Acro Sport it is 3.375 inches. So the Acro
> >> Sport brake is 9.375 inches above the floor. The TW brake is 7.75
> >> inches above the floor. I think the Acro Sport pedals would fit my
> >> size 10s better than the TW pedals. Wonder why the TW pedals are the
> >> way they are? Knowing Steve, there is probably a good reason.
> >>
> >> BTW, I seem to remember the RV6 master cylinder being set up to pivot
> >> with the rudder pedal. Axle is above of course. I have not seen that
> >> set up in years, so I may be wrong. How it is done on the Rocket?
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Fred Weaver wrote:
> >>
> >>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> >>> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >>>
> >>> Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no.... Do
> >>> them
> >>> like Jim C's...
> >>> Weav
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> >>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> >>> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:28 AM
> >>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
> >>>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
> >>>> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have excellent
> >>>> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an arm
> >>>> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
> >>>> comments? Jerry
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Earl Luce" <luceair@frontiernet.net>
Hey guys,
I got the Buttercup out for its 2nd aniversary flight ..........went
great . I can't believe it has been 2 years ! A half hour flight only took
an hour to clean off the mud , but it was worth it , I saw speeds of over
150 mph in this cold weather.
Earl Luce
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Subject: | Re: Master cylinder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Thanks Jim. I will build a taller version the Tailwind rudder pedals.
Jerry
On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 05:39 PM, Jim and Donna Clement wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement"
> <168x@merr.com>
>
> Don't mount the bottom of the brake cylinder so it swings with the
> rudder
> pedal. Mount the bottom stationary to the floor and parallel to the
> rudder
> pedals when in a upright position. The arm coming off the brake pedal
> should
> be mounted no higher than 1/2 way up the brake pedal, not at the top as
> shown in the plans. The lower the arm on the brake pedal, the better
> the
> brakes work. It also might help if you make the rudder part of the
> assy. one
> inch higher so the bottom brake cylinder mount doesn't mount below the
> belly
> panel. Jim C
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>
>
>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>
>> Three days of crap and then a "better" day. That is how it has been
>> this spring. Mostly just wind. I flew last week in 90cross winds
>> gusting to 20. Three landings that were not good at all. It was a
>> real battle but N6PJ and I survived. I will change nothing on this
>> neat little plane. The new pedals are for the W-10 project. Jerry
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 04:14 PM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>>
>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
>>> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> I'm sure you could position the "Tread" at any point you want.. for
>>> both
>>> Rudder and Brake. I could be wrong but don't think so. However, you
>>> want to
>>> hold the bottom of the Master still when you rotate the pedal. Why?
>>> Because, if you push full rudder deflection in a botched landing and
>>> you
>>> still need some brake, it won't be there as your foot is already
>>> whacking
>>> the backside of the firewall. I'm not sure if all Tailwinds are like
>>> that
>>> but I owned one that ran out of brake sometimes during critical
>>> crosswind
>>> corrections..whew!
>>> The two airplanes that I've owned that Jim built, just work very good
>
>>> with
>>> no problems whatsoever.
>>>
>>> Good Luck....and go get some flying in. Isn't it springtime out
>>> there?
>>> You
>>> should be flying that plane, not working on it.
>>> Have Fun!
>>> Weav
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>>>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Fred, in a related question, a couple of times in heavy
>>>> crosswinds when getting on the rudders, I have also
>>>> accidentally
>>>> hit the brakes. Not hard, but I could hear them dragging. I think
>>>> that if the rudder pedal tread was a little higher from the floor I
>>>> would be less likely to accidentally activate the brakes. What do
>>>> you
>>>> think?
>>>>
>>>> Just checked the plans: The axle center to rudder tread center
>>>> in
>>>> the TW plans is 5.250 inches. Same style pedal in the acro sport,
>>>> this distance is 6 inches. The TW brake tread is 2.5 inches above
>>>> the
>>>> rudder pedal while on the Acro Sport it is 3.375 inches. So the
>>>> Acro
>>>> Sport brake is 9.375 inches above the floor. The TW brake is 7.75
>>>> inches above the floor. I think the Acro Sport pedals would fit my
>>>> size 10s better than the TW pedals. Wonder why the TW pedals are
>>>> the
>>>> way they are? Knowing Steve, there is probably a good reason.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I seem to remember the RV6 master cylinder being set up to
>>>> pivot
>>>> with the rudder pedal. Axle is above of course. I have not seen
>>>> that
>>>> set up in years, so I may be wrong. How it is done on the Rocket?
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Fred Weaver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
>>>>> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad Idea..... Already been there, and done that. No, no, no....
>>>>> Do
>>>>> them
>>>>> like Jim C's...
>>>>> Weav
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>>>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Tailwind Forum Forum" <tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Master cylinder
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey
>>>>>> <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am making a new set of rudder/brake pedals. Looking at the Acro
>>>>>> Sport plans which I sometimes refer to because they have
>>>>>> excellent
>>>>>> detail drawings, the master cylinder lower attachment is to an
>>>>>> arm
>>>>>> that rotates with the rudder pedal. Seems like a good idea. Any
>>>>>> comments? Jerry
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