---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/22/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Nails (Mike Mears) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Nails (Alex Frizzell) 3. 06:10 AM - Project for sale (Ted Leon) 4. 10:47 AM - Re: Project for sale (Brian Alley) 5. 11:30 AM - Re: Project for sale (Ted Leon) 6. 07:13 PM - Re: Project for sale (Brian Dal Porto) 7. 08:40 PM - Re: Project for sale (Ted Leon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:59 AM PST US Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Nails From: "Mike Mears" If you staple through a sheet of card, then it is a lot easier to remove the staple once the glue has dried, with less chance of marking the wood. If you use nails, then tapping it though a small piece of card will save you fingers starting the nail. It can be driven right through the card into the wood, and then you can take the card away afterwards. Cold Moulded Boats often use nylon nails when fixing the plies together. These can be left in, and planed or sanded with the wood afterwards. Some of these may be applicable. Mike Mears. -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Cummings Sent: 18 June 2004 02:52 To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Subject: Tailwind-List: Nails =09 =09 I went to an old flying service today to get some 1/4 inch nails to affix my gussets to the capstrips. I want to use nails and leave them in the ribs just for self assurance. I am using T-88 glue. I just thought I pick some of these nails up within a short driving distance so I could get started building ribs this weekend. They had some nails that were thirty years old ! They used to rebuild Steamans there and had some left over. I couldn't tell if they were coated or not - cement or otherwise. They had not rusted any, however. They had been transferred from boxes to a plastic container some years ago. Looked gray in color and may be galvanized but I can't tell for sure. I guess I could several outside a few days and see what happens to them. Were any of these nails ever made untreated with any coating - Which is what I want to avoid. Or would the epoxy or varnish I use be protection enough? Thanks, Tom http://www.bbc.co.uk/ - World Wide Wonderland This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:23 AM PST US From: "Alex Frizzell" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Nails Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 07:49:11 -0500 MessageBoy!, we learn something new everyday. Sounds like a great technique Mike, wished I had known about it before all these nails. You know what they say about hindsight. Thanks for this valuable piece of info. Alex "do not archive" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mears To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:43 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Nails If you staple through a sheet of card, then it is a lot easier to remove the staple once the glue has dried, with less chance of marking the wood. If you use nails, then tapping it though a small piece of card will save you fingers starting the nail. It can be driven right through the card into the wood, and then you can take the card away afterwards. Cold Moulded Boats often use nylon nails when fixing the plies together. These can be left in, and planed or sanded with the wood afterwards. Some of these may be applicable. Mike Mears. -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Cummings Sent: 18 June 2004 02:52 To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Subject: Tailwind-List: Nails I went to an old flying service today to get some 1/4 inch nails to affix my gussets to the capstrips. I want to use nails and leave them in the ribs just for self assurance. I am using T-88 glue. I just thought I pick some of these nails up within a short driving distance so I could get started building ribs this weekend. They had some nails that were thirty years old ! They used to rebuild Steamans there and had some left over. I couldn't tell if they were coated or not - cement or otherwise. They had not rusted any, however. They had been transferred from boxes to a plastic container some years ago. Looked gray in color and may be galvanized but I can't tell for sure. I guess I could several outside a few days and see what happens to them. Were any of these nails ever made untreated with any coating - Which is what I want to avoid. Or would the epoxy or varnish I use be protection enough? Thanks, Tom http://www.bbc.co.uk/ - World Wide Wonderland This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:13 AM PST US From: "Ted Leon" Subject: Tailwind-List: Project for sale MessageFusalage on gear, with Jim's mods professionally TIG welded. Empanage completed. Rudder pedels completed. Control stick, etc, completed. Sliding seats fabricated. Basics of instrument panel frame installed. Wings: Ribs on spars completed. Engine mount for 0-320 completed and mounted. Workmanship excellent. Save yourself YEARS of building. Located in Las Vegas. 7500 Dollars. Pictures availailable on request....I'll send them via e-mail. I'm selling it because my partner was basiclly building it for me had to move away and I don't have the skills necessary to complete the job. I've attempted to hire the rest of the project to be finished by accomplished Tailwind builders, however they were too busy to take on yet another project. Hate to let it go, Ted Leon ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:05 AM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley Ted, Please email me the pictures you have, I'm very interested in your project!!! Call me or provide me with your phone numbers and I'll call you. ===== BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES 304-872-7938 shop 304-562-6800 home How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:59 AM PST US From: "Ted Leon" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale Hi Brian, Here are some pic's. I'll give you a call later. Best, Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Alley" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley > > Ted, Please email me the pictures you have, I'm very > interested in your project!!! Call me or provide me > with your phone numbers and I'll call you. > > ===== > BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) > CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES > 304-872-7938 shop > 304-562-6800 home > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:03 PM PST US From: "Brian Dal Porto" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale MessageTed can you send me the pictures I've been looking for a project. Brian Dal Porto ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Leon To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:10 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Project for sale Fusalage on gear, with Jim's mods professionally TIG welded. Empanage completed. Rudder pedels completed. Control stick, etc, completed. Sliding seats fabricated. Basics of instrument panel frame installed. Wings: Ribs on spars completed. Engine mount for 0-320 completed and mounted. Workmanship excellent. Save yourself YEARS of building. Located in Las Vegas. 7500 Dollars. Pictures availailable on request....I'll send them via e-mail. I'm selling it because my partner was basiclly building it for me had to move away and I don't have the skills necessary to complete the job. I've attempted to hire the rest of the project to be finished by accomplished Tailwind builders, however they were too busy to take on yet another project. Hate to let it go, Ted Leon ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:42 PM PST US From: "Ted Leon" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale MessageHere you go Brian. Enjoy, Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Dal Porto To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Project for sale Ted can you send me the pictures I've been looking for a project. Brian Dal Porto