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1. 11:33 AM - Four Runner air to air (Luc H.)
2. 11:54 AM - Baraboo-My good ride (Dan)
3. 12:11 PM - Re: Four Runner air to air (Callbie Wood)
4. 12:48 PM - Re: Four Runner air to air (Luc H.)
5. 01:16 PM - Baraboo-My other ride (Dan)
6. 01:21 PM - Re: Four Runner air to air (Callbie Wood)
7. 05:59 PM - Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning (Jerry Hey)
8. 06:39 PM - Re: Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning (Jack Selbert)
9. 08:34 PM - Varnishing wing interior - Problems (mike_tailwind@att.net)
10. 09:16 PM - Re: Baraboo-My good ride (Fred Weaver)
11. 09:27 PM - Re: Four Runner air to air (Fred Weaver)
12. 09:33 PM - Re: Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning (Fred Weaver)
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| Subject: | Four Runner air to air |
Four Runner air to air, from Fred.
>Just a nice ride to Baraboo.... This is Minnesota.
:)
Weavster
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| Subject: | Baraboo-My good ride |
Do I have something to say about it,YEEEHAAAAAH GIDDY UP just about covers
it. But Fred told me later when I asked him if he was trying to scare me.
and you have to hear Fred's voice in your head when you read this, "no. I
just wanted to make sure you got a good ride". 'Good ride' is something of
an understatement; the water tower to the North West I now know makes a
really nice pylon. We then headed up to Jerome's to buzz around for a while
and Fred got around to doing a victory roll @ 180 indicated. I'm sure the
roll was 1G all the way but we got around to pulling a G or 2 here and there
and the plane is rock solid of course, but still you can't help but be
impressed by that, when you are used to hearing squeaking and creaking upon
just about everything you do in a Cessna 150. People just don't know, they
just don't know. I guess Fred finally got tired of hearing me say
YEEEHAAAAAH so we headed back for the obligatory low pass and I saw at least
235 on the clock from my view angle. A short pull to about what seemed like
two hundred feet or so and Fred demonstrated some knife edge flying and
turns at 200 indicated which all seemed to be at 1G. Then the big pull up,
we are going almost straight up but the plane is taking forever to slow any,
and I don't really get to register in my brain what the VSI says because I
notice Fred turn his head toward me and he has that big grin on his face.
The patented Fred Weaver big grin with just enough mischief in it that I no
longer wonder what the climb rate is and start wondering what he has in mind
for the big finale.another roll.LOOP MAYBE! The mind reels, and I remember
actually mouthing the words, "Are you going to do it?" they don't come over
the intercom because I am more or less thinking out loud. So the next thing
Fred does is just twist slowly back to the straight ahead position with that
big grin and levels off gently at pattern altitude, we both grin all the way
to touch down, with Fred satisfied I guess by just raising the uncertainty.
Great ride Fred THANKS!
-Danny
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| Subject: | Re: Four Runner air to air |
Luc...Weav...Thanks for those Air shots. I really enjoyed them. Callbie Wood
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Four Runner air to air, from Fred.
>Just a nice ride to Baraboo.... This is Minnesota.
:)
Weavster
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| Subject: | Re: Four Runner air to air |
Callbie
Over 30 years and the Four Runner is still flying, these are proof of how well
you designed and built the Four Runner.
Are any Four Runner builders close to completion?
Luc
----- Original Message -----
From: Callbie Wood
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Luc...Weav...Thanks for those Air shots. I really enjoyed them. Callbie Wood
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Four Runner air to air, from Fred.
>Just a nice ride to Baraboo.... This is Minnesota.
:)
Weavster
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| Subject: | Baraboo-My other ride |
0.0 DIET_1 BODY: Lose Weight Spam
I want to thank Malcolm Lovelace also for a ride. Malcolm's award winning
nose dragger doesn't have 180 H.P. but the tail dragger he is building now
might, he didn't say-but it ain't no slouch and what's 160 H.P. chopped
liver? We took off and had 207 on the gps by the length of the field. I
don't remember if that is kts or mph but we were truckin right along. I
noticed Malcolm fiddled with the trim 2 or 3 times and I guess he figured it
was just the extra weight (lard) in there with him, but he finally noticed
he had left 5 degrees flaps in from take-off!! Needless to say it made a
difference when he got the flaps off. I might add that Malcolm and Fred
both fly with just the thumb and first finger. At speed all that is
necessary for any stick input is a slight pressure change, the kind of
pressure change that barely changes the skin color where your fingers touch
the stick. I gotta have a 10 now. Tailwinds are rock solid. People just
don't know, they just don't know. Malcolm, thanks man, for the ride and for
putting such a beautiful and great flying plane into the world.
-Danny
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| Subject: | Re: Four Runner air to air |
Luc...I've always been lucky with my airplaning...or maybe careful would be a better
word.
I only know of one other FR that was completed...by an instructor at Milwaukee
Tech high
school .I haven't sold many plans. Thanks again for the pics.
Callbie.
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Callbie
Over 30 years and the Four Runner is still flying, these are proof of how well
you designed and built the Four Runner.
Are any Four Runner builders close to completion?
Luc
----- Original Message -----
From: Callbie Wood
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Luc...Weav...Thanks for those Air shots. I really enjoyed them. Callbie Wood
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Four Runner air to air, from Fred.
>Just a nice ride to Baraboo.... This is Minnesota.
:)
Weavster
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| Subject: | Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning |
Everybody, the new web site, http://j-winddesigns.com, is now on
line. It has very little content but will grow with time. Right now,
you can download the CAFE report and the last four issues of the
Tailwind Times in PDF format. It takes about 4 minutes on a 56 K modem
to download a complete issue of the TT. You can view the PDFs on line
or move them to a folder on your desktop for immediate access whenever
you want or you can print them. Eventually all back issues of the TT
will be available.
You will see a navigation bar on the left side. At present there are
only four choices but as more materials are added, the selections will
grow. Lastly, we have a glitch in how the site is functioning that
will be dealt with. Does not stop us from using the site at this
time, however.
The old construction photos are still available. Eventually they
will be organized by subject. That is about it. Not too exciting at
present but the seed has been planted. Jerry
Go to: http://j-winddesigns.com
http://j-winddesigns.com
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| Subject: | Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jack Selbert" <jack_selbert@hotmail.com>
Thanks so much Jerry. Makes me want to patch the roof on my hangar and get started
building. Jack
From: Jerry Hey j-winddesigns@thegrid.net
Subject: Tailwind-List: Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning
Everybody,the new web site, http://j-winddesigns.com,is now on
line.It has very little content but will grow with time. Right
now, you can download the CAFE report and the last four issues of
the Tailwind Times in PDF format.It takes about 4 minutes on a 56
K modem to download a complete issue of the TT.You can view the
PDFs on line or move them to a folder onyour desktop for immediate
access whenever you want or you canprint them.Eventually all
back issues of the TT will be available.
You will see a navigation bar on the left side.At present there
are only four choices but as more materials are added, the
selections will grow. Lastly, we have a glitch in how the site is
functioning that will be dealt with.Does not stop us fromusing
the site at this time, however.
The old construction photos are still available.Eventually they
will be organized by subject.That is about it.Not too exciting
at presentbut the seed has been planted.Jerry
Go to:http://j-winddesigns.com
http://j-winddesigns.com
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| Subject: | Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: mike_tailwind@att.net
Just so no one else makes this mistake:
I decided to varnish the inside of one of the wings, but everywhere the varnish
touched the West epoxy the varnish turned tacky and would not dry. Unfortunately
I varnished the inside of the bottom skin which was entirely covered with
West. The varnish was a Spar urethane from Minwax.
The West epoxy was fully cured for several months, and sanded to remove any amine
blush.
So now I don't know whether to wait and see if it will eventually harden, or just
take out some rags and thinner and try to remove the stuff. Has anyone else
had this problem?
-Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Baraboo-My good ride |
I think he liked it......... :) It was fun for me too after all the wrenching..
Glad you had some fun Danny... Now you know what to expect from your
Tailwind.
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Baraboo-My good ride
Do I have something to say about it,YEEEHAAAAAH GIDDY UP just about covers it.
But Fred told me later when I asked him if he was trying to scare me. and you
have to hear Fred's voice in your head when you read this, "no. I just wanted
to make sure you got a good ride". 'Good ride' is something of an understatement;
the water tower to the North West I now know makes a really nice pylon.
We then headed up to Jerome's to buzz around for a while and Fred got around
to doing a victory roll @ 180 indicated. I'm sure the roll was 1G all the
way but we got around to pulling a G or 2 here and there and the plane is rock
solid of course, but still you can't help but be impressed by that, when you
are used to hearing squeaking and creaking upon just about everything you do in
a Cessna 150. People just don't know, they just don't know. I guess Fred finally
got tired of hearing me say YEEEHAAAAAH so we headed back for the obligatory
low pass and I saw at least 235 on the clock from my view angle. A short
pull to about what seemed like two hundred feet or so and Fred demonstrated
some knife edge flying and turns at 200 indicated which all seemed to be at 1G.
Then the big pull up, we are going almost straight up but the plane is taking
forever to slow any, and I don't really get to register in my brain what the
VSI says because I notice Fred turn his head toward me and he has that big grin
on his face. The patented Fred Weaver big grin with just enough mischief
in it that I no longer wonder what the climb rate is and start wondering what
he has in mind for the big finale.another roll.LOOP MAYBE! The mind reels, and
I remember actually mouthing the words, "Are you going to do it?" they don't
come over the intercom because I am more or less thinking out loud. So the next
thing Fred does is just twist slowly back to the straight ahead position with
that big grin and levels off gently at pattern altitude, we both grin all
the way to touch down, with Fred satisfied I guess by just raising the uncertainty.
Great ride Fred THANKS!
-Danny
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| Subject: | Re: Four Runner air to air |
It was fun to fly next to Lee on his trip to Baraboo. The sky was friendly and
fun with the puffy Cumulus and I just had to get some pics. Some turned out pretty
good, others just didn't work out. Luc shared two of the best and I hope
you all liked them. Lee was surprised at all the interest in the airplane as he
doesn't have a computer and didn't have any idea how many people wanted to see
it. Calbie, Lee has changed cowls and added A LOT of airflow thru it. I believe
this is why the airplane has slowed down some. We were cruising at 9,500
feet and Lee could get almost 20" of manifold pressure while spinning at 2300
rpm. This provided a fuel burn for him at about 8.5 gph while zipping along at
160 mph TAS. A note here.... I was only able to carry 14.8" while turning 2000
rpm while trying to stay on his side. I was only burning about 6 gph at that
power setting. Our ride from Cooperstown, ND to Baraboo was exactly 3 hours.
Now I know how to really save gas and still go a long ways. Just a little weird
flying with the engine just barely above an idle...still at 160 TAS.. not
bad.
Anyway, glad you enjoyed the pics.
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Callbie Wood
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Luc...Weav...Thanks for those Air shots. I really enjoyed them. Callbie Wood
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Four Runner air to air
Four Runner air to air, from Fred.
>Just a nice ride to Baraboo.... This is Minnesota.
:)
Weav
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning |
Thanks Jerry... A labor of love that I'm sure a lot of builders will come to
appreciate. Get that gear bolted on soon!
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hey
To: Tailwind Forum Forum
Cc: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Tailwind Web Site Very humble beginning
Everybody, the new web site, http://j-winddesigns.com, is now on line. It has very little content but will grow with time. Right now, you can download the CAFE report and the last four issues of the Tailwind Times in PDF format. It takes about 4 minutes on a 56 K modem to download a complete issue of the TT. You can view the PDFs on line or move them to a folder on your desktop for immediate access whenever you want or you can print them. Eventually all back issues of the TT will be available.
You will see a navigation bar on the left side. At present there are only four
choices but as more materials are added, the selections will grow. Lastly, we
have a glitch in how the site is functioning that will be dealt with. Does not
stop us from using the site at this time, however.
The old construction photos are still available. Eventually they will be organized
by subject. That is about it. Not too exciting at present but the seed has
been planted. Jerry
Go to: http://j-winddesigns.com
http://j-winddesigns.com
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