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1. 12:19 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:35 AM - Taiwind Site address (Jerry Hey)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems (Jim and Donna Clement)
4. 06:01 AM - Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems (mike_tailwind@att.net)
5. 09:14 AM - Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems (Keith)
6. 11:21 AM - Re: Four Runner air to air (GORDON PARKER)
7. 12:17 PM - Fw: Photos (flamini2)
8. 01:21 PM - Re: Baraboo-My other ride (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Fw: Photos (camera fund) (Luc H.)
10. 02:41 PM - Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems (Jim and Donna Clement)
11. 04:36 PM - Osh 2004 (flamini2)
12. 04:45 PM - George Turner Camera (flamini2)
13. 06:45 PM - Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems (Jim and Donna Clement)
14. 07:31 PM - Therapy (john)
15. 07:38 PM - lack canvas chair found (Jim and Donna Clement)
16. 09:23 PM - Re: Baraboo (red)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Tailwind-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Tailwind-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Taiwind Site address |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
The address I posted yesterday will not link. Needs the www.
Go to http://www.j-winddesigns.com
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| Subject: | Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
varnish. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: <mike_tailwind@att.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: mike_tailwind@att.net
>
> Just so no one else makes this mistake:
> I decided to varnish the inside of one of the wings, but everywhere the
varnish touched the West epoxy the varnish turned tacky and would not dry.
Unfortunately I varnished the inside of the bottom skin which was entirely
covered with West. The varnish was a Spar urethane from Minwax.
> The West epoxy was fully cured for several months, and sanded to remove
any amine blush.
>
> So now I don't know whether to wait and see if it will eventually harden,
or just take out some rags and thinner and try to remove the stuff. Has
anyone else had this problem?
>
> -Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
Thanks Jim. Should I try to go over the plywood with something else, or is one
thin coat of West (sanded) good enough?
-------------- Original message from "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>: --------------
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
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> Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
> varnish. Jim C
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:34 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
>
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> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: mike_tailwind@att.net
> >
> > Just so no one else makes this mistake:
> > I decided to varnish the inside of one of the wings, but everywhere the
> varnish touched the West epoxy the varnish turned tacky and would not dry.
> Unfortunately I varnished the inside of the bottom skin which was entirely
> covered with West. The varnish was a Spar urethane from Minwax.
> > The West epoxy was fully cured for several months, and sanded to remove
> any amine blush.
> >
> > So now I don't know whether to wait and see if it will eventually harden,
> or just take out some rags and thinner and try to remove the stuff. Has
> anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks Jim. Should I try to go over the plywood with something else, or is one
thin coat of West (sanded) good enough?
-------------- Original message from "Jim and Donna Clement" 168x@merr.com: --------------
-- Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" 168x@merr.com
Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
varnish. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: <MIKE_TAILWIND@ATT.NET>
To: <TAILWIND-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:34 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
-- Tailwind-List message posted by: mike_tailwind@att.net
Just so no one else makes this mistake:
I decided to varnish the inside of one of the wings, but everywhere the
varnish touched the West epoxy the varnish turned tacky and would not dry.
Unfor
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| Subject: | Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Keith" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
Jim,
What size tube are the two tubes at the rear of your air frame that the
rudder cables run thru?
Thanks,
Keith Dornseif
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim and Donna
Clement
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
varnish. Jim C
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| Subject: | Re: Four Runner air to air |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 11:21:27 -0700
----- Luc-- great pic of the four runner-- Gordon
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Here are some Osh photos, left Sat 7pm with less than 50% showplanes left.
The EAA has messed up with their early start dates.
Saw George pull in Sat am and found out some lowlife took his digital camera out
of his plane.
I will be the first to donate $20 for a new one.
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
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| Subject: | Baraboo-My other ride |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Dan,
Glad you enjoyed it, now get your Tailwind in the air. I made it home
Saturday afternoon after spending Friday night in Valpo, Ind. Let me know
when you get your airplane back to the airport. I will fly down some
Saturday.
Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan [SMTP:dannyjoe@insightbb.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:16 PM
> To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com; tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Baraboo-My other ride
>
> I want to thank Malcolm Lovelace also for a ride. Malcolm's award winning
> nose dragger doesn't have 180 H.P. but the tail dragger he is building now
> might, he didn't say-but it ain't no slouch and what's 160 H.P. chopped
> liver? We took off and had 207 on the gps by the length of the field. I
> don't remember if that is kts or mph but we were truckin right along. I
> noticed Malcolm fiddled with the trim 2 or 3 times and I guess he figured
> it was just the extra weight (lard) in there with him, but he finally
> noticed he had left 5 degrees flaps in from take-off!! Needless to say it
> made a difference when he got the flaps off. I might add that Malcolm and
> Fred both fly with just the thumb and first finger. At speed all that is
> necessary for any stick input is a slight pressure change, the kind of
> pressure change that barely changes the skin color where your fingers
> touch the stick. I gotta have a 10 now. Tailwinds are rock solid.
> People just don't know, they just don't know. Malcolm, thanks man, for
> the ride and for putting such a beautiful and great flying plane into the
> world.
>
> -Danny
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Photos (camera fund) |
I'm in for $20.. Let me know where to send a check for the digital camera replacement
fund... Luc
----- Original Message -----
From: flamini2
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com ; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:18 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Fw: Photos
Here are some Osh photos, left Sat 7pm with less than 50% showplanes left.
The EAA has messed up with their early start dates.
Saw George pull in Sat am and found out some lowlife took his digital camera
out of his plane.
I will be the first to donate $20 for a new one.
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
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| Subject: | Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
3/8 X .035 Braze them on, if welded you might get some penetration come
through and wear the cable. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Keith" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
>
> Jim,
>
> What size tube are the two tubes at the rear of your air frame that the
> rudder cables run thru?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith Dornseif
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim and
Donna
> Clement
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:39 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement"
<168x@merr.com>
>
> Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
> varnish. Jim C
>
>
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Opened the August Sport Aviation to see the Tailwinds from Osh 2003 on page 70.
Looks like mine, Jim's, Gary's and Earl's metal wing, anyone else remember the
line up?
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
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| Subject: | George Turner Camera |
Send checks to;
George Turner
3437 E. Acoma Dr.
Phoenix, Az 85032-5165
George let us know when to stop sending you money.
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
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| Subject: | Re: Varnishing wing interior - Problems |
If the acetone removed the sticky it should be good enough. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: mike_tailwind@att.net
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
Thanks Jim. Should I try to go over the plywood with something else, or is one
thin coat of West (sanded) good enough?
-------------- Original message from "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>:
--------------
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
>
> Wipe over it with acetone, that should remove the sticky surface on the
> varnish. Jim C
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:34 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Varnishing wing interior - Problems
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: mike_tailwind@att.net
> >
> > Just so no one else makes this mistake:
> > I decided to varnish the inside of one of the wings, but everywhere the
> varnish touched the West epoxy the varnish turned tacky and would not dry.
> Unfor
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
Thanks to the Baraboo Gang for the wonderful weekend. After helping Jim
blast the dust out of his hanger it was a fun weekend. Bob came by the
trailer about 9:00 pm and we had a short and enjoyable chat. Very sorry to
hear of Estelles'passing, our condulences are with you. Had a great ride in
Malcolms' W-10. Richard and I did a jungle breakfast for the guys on sat
and sunday, hope no one got to meet Sam and Elly. Thanks Danny for the help
on the Coffee. We hope to be better prepared to do this next, as Jim has
given us his blessing. Made it home in the ole farm truck without mishap,
from Oshkosh sunday evening, Aug 1st, about 9;00 pm. Farmerjohn Don't
Archive
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| Subject: | lack canvas chair found |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
After the party was over, one black canvas chair in a black bag is still
here. Can pickup anytime or wait till next year. Jim C
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "red" <redswings@reds-headers.com>
Tailwinders,
Congratulations, Malcolm won an Bronze Lindy for his beautiful 81ML at
Oshkosh.
Thanks to all at Baraboo and OSH for the help and company.
To Jim for the shop use, help and supplies, to Dan for being so helpful, to
Dave Conrad for a helping hand, to George for being social director, to Earl
Luce for showing me how to move the rear spar carry-through without
recovering the fuselage, to Laura Luce for watching our Tailwind when we
went sightseeing, to Jim Stanton for history and information, to Fearless
Fred for entertainment, Donna for transport and company, and to everyone and
anyone that I may have forgotten here.
Our condolences to Bob Danner on the loss that we all share.
Red and Marilyn
----- Original Message -----
From: <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Baraboo-My other ride
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
> Dan,
>
> Glad you enjoyed it, now get your Tailwind in the air. I made it home
> Saturday afternoon after spending Friday night in Valpo, Ind. Let me know
> when you get your airplane back to the airport. I will fly down some
> Saturday.
>
> Malcolm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan [SMTP:dannyjoe@insightbb.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:16 PM
> > To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com; tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Tailwind-List: Baraboo-My other ride
> >
> > I want to thank Malcolm Lovelace also for a ride. Malcolm's award
winning
> > nose dragger doesn't have 180 H.P. but the tail dragger he is building
now
> > might, he didn't say-but it ain't no slouch and what's 160 H.P. chopped
> > liver? We took off and had 207 on the gps by the length of the field.
I
> > don't remember if that is kts or mph but we were truckin right along. I
> > noticed Malcolm fiddled with the trim 2 or 3 times and I guess he
figured
> > it was just the extra weight (lard) in there with him, but he finally
> > noticed he had left 5 degrees flaps in from take-off!! Needless to say
it
> > made a difference when he got the flaps off. I might add that Malcolm
and
> > Fred both fly with just the thumb and first finger. At speed all that
is
> > necessary for any stick input is a slight pressure change, the kind of
> > pressure change that barely changes the skin color where your fingers
> > touch the stick. I gotta have a 10 now. Tailwinds are rock solid.
> > People just don't know, they just don't know. Malcolm, thanks man, for
> > the ride and for putting such a beautiful and great flying plane into
the
> > world.
> >
> > -Danny
> >
>
>
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