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1. 08:23 AM - Re: Data uplink (Fred Weaver)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Data uplink (Dan)
3. 03:31 PM - Re: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready? (Earl Luce)
4. 05:49 PM - Re: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready? (Callbie Wood)
5. 06:22 PM - Welding fuselages/Baraboo (Rich Ellis)
6. 06:58 PM - Re: Welding fuselages/Baraboo (Larry H)
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Hahahahahahha..... Nice Try Danny.... Jim C is just waiting for the day when
I figure it out...
Wish I knew how to doctor up the pics like that. We would have a ball!
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com ; tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Data uplink
I have heard of up linking weather information but this is ridiculous.
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Fred,
I saw your GPS at Oshkosh sitting next to the 295 and 296. The screen on
yours is the biggest by far. Going to put the cowl on the old 8 today I
hope. Crosslin says he will take it around the patch to see what she's got
before I hand it over to the Jump pilot down here to fly it to the airport
where I am taking my transition training. The guy at that airport says
we'll start out in his Citabria and switch to mine later, can't beat a deal
like that. Better check you manual, I'm sure that red button does
something!
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Weaver
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Data uplink
Hahahahahahha..... Nice Try Danny.... Jim C is just waiting for the day
when I figure it out...
Wish I knew how to doctor up the pics like that. We would have a ball!
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan <mailto:dannyjoe@insightbb.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Data uplink
I have heard of up linking weather information but this is ridiculous.
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| Subject: | Re: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready? |
Callbie,
The Buttercup is a lighter , roomier , slower ,STOL Tailwind . If you would
like to put a set of metal wings on it , I would love to work with you .
Earl Luce
----- Original Message -----
From: Callbie Wood
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready?
To all who may be interested....I'm beginning construction of a metal wing, C-85
powered, TW that will weigh around 650 empty and will meet the LSA specs.
It will probably be about a year from now to first flight. I will be offering
plans. Callbie Wood,
EAA 17659
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Graves
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready?
Earl have you determined if Buttercup will qualify?
To all of you, will a light weight ,low HP Tailwind perhaps with Vortex generators
meet the Sport Pilot rules?
I'm getting tired of spending $1700 for test, submitting them to wait 9 months
for an approval that expires in 3 months.
Just got my special medical 8/18 and it expires 11/30.
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready? |
Earl...what is your email address ? Callbie
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready?
Callbie,
The Buttercup is a lighter , roomier , slower ,STOL Tailwind . If you would
like to put a set of metal wings on it , I would love to work with you .
Earl Luce
----- Original Message -----
From: Callbie Wood
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready?
To all who may be interested....I'm beginning construction of a metal wing,
C-85 powered, TW that will weigh around 650 empty and will meet the LSA specs.
It will probably be about a year from now to first flight. I will be offering
plans. Callbie Wood,
EAA 17659
jncwood@bbnp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Graves
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Buttercup Sport Pilot ready?
Earl have you determined if Buttercup will qualify?
To all of you, will a light weight ,low HP Tailwind perhaps with Vortex
generators meet the Sport Pilot rules?
I'm getting tired of spending $1700 for test, submitting them to wait 9
months for an approval that expires in 3 months.
Just got my special medical 8/18 and it expires 11/30.
Ken
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| Subject: | Welding fuselages/Baraboo |
TWers ...... Another great day at Baraboo with great
Wisconsin weather. Bob Danner hard a work recently
completing the fuselag welding on 2 new W-10s under
construction (see photos below). Bob's welding skills
are simply PERFECT!
Jim C was hard a work fabricating aluminum fairings
for the wing root attachment area. His Tailwind #9 is
sharing up quickly. Rich
--- Estelle Danner <edanner@jvlnet.com> wrote:
> Hi Rich oh yeah that will keep going real good !
> .ps i got Clints almost
> done i will do yours next week after i sober up from
> my daughters wedding i
> allways do good job when i have ddoouubbllllee
> vision Bye Bob D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Ellis" <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
> To: <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: [TailwindForum] Welding fuselages: Which
> rod to use?
>
>
> > Bob ........ The welding rod issue for
> oxy-acetylene
> > is such an interesting issue. Thought the group
> might
> > find the following helpful from a couple websites:
> >
> > >From ESAB website:
> > There are two most commonly used O/A rods for 4130
> > -A.W.S. Class RG45. (OXWELD No. 7 rod is an
> example of
> > this type.) The other is usually designated as
> "No. 1
> > HT", contains about one per cent manganese, and
> falls
> > into A.W.S. Class RG60.
> >
> > Note that both Charles Vogelsong (Dillsburg
> Aeroplane
> > Works and Aircraft Spruce sell this rod (also
> called
> > the Linde #7 by some).
> >
> >
> > >From Bruce A. Frank/Kent White:
> > ER70s-2 has given ER702-6 a bad name, as ER70s-2
> will
> > spit, spatter, and develop scum in the weld puddle
> > with O/A torch. I like E70S-6 for both O/A and TIG
> > work because it flows well and contains a very
> high
> > level of di-oxidizers to help keep the molten
> puddle
> > quiet by eating up the contaminants.
> >
> > >From TM Technology (Kent White's Website):
> > Dr. Majic and Dr. Young recommend RG45 for welding
> of
> > 4130 tubes. Dr. Young also likes coathangers. For
> > fun, I butt welded 4130 coupons together with
> > coathanger (RG Black) and subjected them to the
> big
> > hammer bend test. It passed. I never use them for
> > serious work.
> >
> > I keep 5 types of steel rod in my shop and I
> > periodically round robin test them. For O/A I keep
> > coming back to RG45. It fillets very nicely,
> doesn't
> > spatter at you, and it is a deep penetrating rod
> > compared to RG60. The tensile strength difference
> is
> > compensated by:
> >
> > We don't grind weld beads (with rare exceptions,
> like
> > where a bolt/nut needs a flat) so the bead is
> always
> > thicker than the parent metal.
> >
> >
> > Proper joint design for aircraft should never put
> a
> > weld in pure tension. At least 50% of the load is
> > carried in shear. If we were pipefitters I would
> have
> > a different opinion. As part of the cert process,
> the
> > test coupons cut from your joint are ground/sanded
> > flat, then tested in tension. RG45 might well fail
> the
> > test on high strength steel pipe.
> >
> > Lots of salesman push the E-rods for gas welding.
> > That's a poor recommendation as the chemistry
> isn't
> > right for gas welding. Too much sparking,
> spattering,
> > and a nasty tendency to crater the end of the
> bead.
> >
> > Dr. Joseph Maj
> > The Dow Chemical Company
> > Analytical Sciences Laboratory
> >
> > (Kent's note: Dr. Maj very kindly participated in
> our
> > new as-yet-unreleased 5hr. Instructional video on
> > Aircraft Chromemoly.
> >
> > He has been teaching at Osh for many years, and
> welds
> > a very fine tubing cluster. "Dr." Young is Joe
> "The
> > Polish Ace" Young, a veteran torch welder of 50
> years'
> > experience, and a veteran instructor at Osh.)
> >
> > Hope some find this information helpful. Please
> note
> > the I am NOT a welder and am only passing
> information
> > received from others. Rich
> >
> >
> > --- tailwindtrike <edanner@jvlnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Isaid that I didnt want to open up the welding
> > > discustion agian but
> > > you can never have to much imformation the wire
> that
> > > i am useing is
> > > RG45 1/16, 3/32 the torch is a smith with tips
> from
> > > aw 000 to aw205
> > > get some rg 45 and try it you might like it .
> Bob D.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
> > Gundersen Lutheran Health System
> > Co-Director
> > Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
> > 1900 South Avenue
> > La Crosse, WI 54601
> > 800.362.9567, ext. 52102
> > rjrellis@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> providers!
> >
> >
> >
> > The Tailwind Forum group site is:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TailwindForum
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
=====
Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
Gundersen Lutheran Health System
Co-Director
Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
1900 South Avenue
La Crosse, WI 54601
800.362.9567, ext. 52102
rjrellis@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Welding fuselages/Baraboo |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Larry H" <laheze@ev1.net>
Great Photos, I sure am glad someone is working on airplanes ! That fire
sure looked good, wish I were there with some hotdogs and buns.
Larry H.
From: "Rich Ellis" <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
: Welding fuselages/Baraboo
> TWers ...... Another great day at Baraboo with great
> Wisconsin weather. Bob Danner hard a work recently
> completing the fuselag welding on 2 new W-10s under
> construction (see photos below). Bob's welding skills
> are simply PERFECT!
>
> Jim C was hard a work fabricating aluminum fairings
> for the wing root attachment area. His Tailwind #9 is
> sharing up quickly. Rich
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