Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:28 AM - Re: 0-320 (William Bernard)
2. 05:26 AM - Re: [TailwindForum] Mich fall gathering (Eric Schlanser)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Tube mark / cutting trick (Stephen Doughty)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Mich fall gathering (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
5. 05:42 AM - Re: Tube mark / cutting trick (Ruhnke, Mike)
6. 02:43 PM - tail wheel (Dan)
7. 03:06 PM - brakes (Dan)
8. 03:39 PM - Re: tail wheel (Jim and Donna Clement)
9. 04:08 PM - Re: tail wheel (Dan)
10. 05:03 PM - Re: tail wheel (Jerry Hey)
11. 05:48 PM - Re: tail wheel (Kenneth Graves)
12. 05:53 PM - Re: tail wheel (Dan)
13. 06:02 PM - Re: tail wheel (Jerry Hey)
14. 06:24 PM - Re: brakes (Brian Alley)
15. 06:34 PM - Re: tail wheel (Jim and Donna Clement)
16. 06:35 PM - New Tailwind Pilot (Brian Alley)
17. 06:43 PM - Re: brakes (Dan)
18. 06:51 PM - Re: tail wheel (Dan)
19. 07:01 PM - Re: tail wheel (Mcculleyja@aol.com)
20. 07:20 PM - Re: tail wheel (flamini2)
21. 07:22 PM - Re: New Tailwind Pilot (James E. Wagner Jr.)
22. 11:16 PM - Tubing for a confused builder (CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind)
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Bob, I made a cover for the fuel pump hole on my O-320. It works fine. I used a
piece of aluminum about as thick as the base of the fuel pump, but I suspect
something about 1/8" thick would work fine.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Conner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-320
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bob Conner"
Would there be any problem making the cover for the fuel pump hole..................Bob
149
>From: NorthernTailwind@aol.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-320
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:13:56 EDT
>
>Hey Bob -
>I am glad you found something you like, hope it works well.
>I just wanted to mention that if the engine has a fuel pump on it and you
>are not going to use the pump, you will have to find a plate to cover the hole.
> This could set back your timing a little; they are around but scarce.
>Earl Trimble
Matronics Forums. http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: [TailwindForum] Mich fall gathering |
John, Richard checked with Plainwell on the get-together. They said we are welcome.
There is a comfortable room big enough for all of us to get out of the weather
if needed. Fuel is $2.59 per gallon for 100LL. If we let them know when
we want to come a couple of days ahead, they will cut the grass for us.
***Richard and I can support Sep 11-12(rain date Sep 25-26)***
Richard will have to speak for the breakfast plans but all good chefs have an assistant.
Can he count on you?
Eric
<Jim; I can't find the date on the Frasca flyin. I'm thinking <the 25th and the
26th of Sept may be the best bet as the <weather is getting rather iffy here,
or maybe the 18th and <19th may be better, and use the 25th and 26th as a
rain date. <Malcolm, Richard gets the credit for stirring up the breakfast <jungle,
with all his secret ingredients, it turns out great. <Thoughts from the
farm. JohnD
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| Subject: | Re: Tube mark / cutting trick |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Richard, I could not get that to run on my computer. Wish I would have had
it when I was cutting all of the tubing.
As far as the tool mentioned in the beginning of this thread, the same one
is available through ASS for a multitude of different sizes, pricey too.
Steve -in Michigan
>From: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tube mark / cutting trick
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:36:30 -0500
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
>
>Mike Pierzina wrote:
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina"
><planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
> >
> > Hey Red,
> > You know the more I thought of that guys tube cutting Idea...I
>thought "who'se got the time to make that gizmo" All you would really have
>to do is "sleeve" the tube with a piece of paper...cut the paper til it fit
>the angle...if the sleeve was long enough, it could be squared off and used
>again several times....
> >
> > Gotta Fly...
> > Mike in MN
> >
> > > >
>
>And then there is the Win-Mitre program that prints out a perfect
>pattern
>every time..
>
>Richard
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [TailwindForum] Mich fall gathering |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Richard, what time do you want me there to help.
Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Schlanser [SMTP:eschlanser@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:27 AM
> To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Mich fall gathering
>
> John, Richard checked with Plainwell on the get-together. They said we are
> welcome. There is a comfortable room big enough for all of us to get out
> of the weather if needed. Fuel is $2.59 per gallon for 100LL. If we let
> them know when we want to come a couple of days ahead, they will cut the
> grass for us.
>
>
>
> ***Richard and I can support Sep 11-12(rain date Sep 25-26)***
>
>
>
> Richard will have to speak for the breakfast plans but all good chefs have
> an assistant. Can he count on you?
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> <Jim; I can't find the date on the Frasca flyin. I'm thinking <the 25th
> and the 26th of Sept may be the best bet as the <weather is getting rather
> iffy here, or maybe the 18th and <19th may be better, and use the 25th
> and 26th as a rain date. <Malcolm, Richard gets the credit for stirring
> up the breakfast <jungle, with all his secret ingredients, it turns out
> great. <Thoughts from the farm. JohnD
>
> _____
>
> new_mail/static/efficiency.html> - 100MB free storage!
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| Subject: | Tube mark / cutting trick |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
I did 95% of mine as per how someone told me how Steve did his. Tin snip it close
and clean up with grinder. All of those pretty edges disappear when you weld
(gas)it anyway. Might be different if your not using gas.
Mike NW Illinois
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen
Doughty
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tube mark / cutting trick
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Richard, I could not get that to run on my computer. Wish I would have had
it when I was cutting all of the tubing.
As far as the tool mentioned in the beginning of this thread, the same one
is available through ASS for a multitude of different sizes, pricey too.
Steve -in Michigan
>From: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tube mark / cutting trick
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:36:30 -0500
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
>
>Mike Pierzina wrote:
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina"
><planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
> >
> > Hey Red,
> > You know the more I thought of that guys tube cutting Idea...I
>thought "who'se got the time to make that gizmo" All you would really have
>to do is "sleeve" the tube with a piece of paper...cut the paper til it fit
>the angle...if the sleeve was long enough, it could be squared off and used
>again several times....
> >
> > Gotta Fly...
> > Mike in MN
> >
> > > >
>
>And then there is the Win-Mitre program that prints out a perfect
>pattern
>every time..
>
>Richard
>
>
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Jim C,
I have pictures of your tail wheel (a beauty BTW) showing the control rod
hooked up in opposite directions. The ones I took at the gathering show the
Heim rod end headed north (hooked to the rudder horn) the earlier ones show
the home made end on the rudder horn. Which way is it going to end up? I
would think there are two compression springs in that control rod, one
floater and one surrounding the smaller rod with a washer welded at the end.
Would I be right on that and where do you get those springs?
Thanks.
-Danny
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Brian Alley,
I read your articles in the TT's about when you were building. You
mentioned your master cylinders are mounted to the pedals so as not to apply
the brakes by just moving the pedal; got a picture of that handy? If not,
is it just mounting tabs at the bottom of the rudder pedal that would put
the cylinder centered with the brake pedal and allowing the cylinder to
rotate around the same axis as all the pedals?
Thanks.
-Danny
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Skip Lovell from Fort Bragg CA makes the T wheel link. I think you are right in
the construction details, I've never had one apart. It doesn't make a difference
which way is up. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: tailwindforum@yahoogroups.com ; tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
Jim C,
I have pictures of your tail wheel (a beauty BTW) showing the control rod hooked
up in opposite directions. The ones I took at the gathering show the Heim
rod end headed north (hooked to the rudder horn) the earlier ones show the home
made end on the rudder horn. Which way is it going to end up? I would think
there are two compression springs in that control rod, one floater and one
surrounding the smaller rod with a washer welded at the end. Would I be right
on that and where do you get those springs?
Thanks.
-Danny
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Jim,
Thanks. It looks like one way water could get out better. I guess one
could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain type ones are.
On 8/31/2004 5:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> Skip Lovell from Fort Bragg CA makes the T wheel link. I think you are
> right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It doesn't
> make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> ----- Original Message -----
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Dan, issue #6 of the Tailwind Times has a nice drawing detailing the
construction of the tailwheel steering link. Jerry
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 06:07 PM, Dan wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks.=A0 It looks like one way water could get out better.=A0 I guess
> one could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain=A0 type
> ones are.=A0
>
> On8/31/20045:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> > Skip Lovell fromFort BraggCAmakes the T wheel=A0 link. I think you are
> > right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It
> doesn't
> > make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
>
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Jerry,
What's the address of your online TT followon. I for got to grab it the last time
you mentioned it.
Ken
Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net> wrote:
Dan, issue #6 of the Tailwind Times has a nice drawing detailing the
construction of the tailwheel steering link. Jerry
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 06:07 PM, Dan wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks. It looks like one way water could get out better. I guess
> one could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain type
> ones are.
>
> On8/31/20045:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> > Skip Lovell fromFort BraggCAmakes the T wheel link. I think you are
> > right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It
> doesn't
> > make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
>
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Jerry,
Thanks. I can't find that one on Bob Rudolph's site, so it must be one you
are going to scan in eh? Was I right about what is going on inside the
t-wheel link?
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Hey
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
Dan, issue #6 of the Tailwind Times has a nice drawing detailing the
construction of the tailwheel steering link. Jerry
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 06:07 PM, Dan wrote:
Jim,
Thanks. It looks like one way water could get out better. I guess one
could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain type ones are.
On8/31/20045:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> Skip Lovell fromFort BraggCAmakes the T wheel link. I think you are
> right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It doesn't
> make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> ----- Original Message -----
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Ken, Issue #6 has not been posted yet. It turns out that posting the
older issues is quite a job. We are still working on it. If you want
to purchase issue #6, it is just $4.00. Jerry
Send to
Tailwind Times
3790 S. 600 W
Albion, IN 46701
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 07:48 PM, Kenneth Graves wrote:
> Jerry,
> What's the address of your online TT followon. I for got to grab it
> the last time you mentioned it.
> Ken
>
> Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net> wrote:
>
> Dan, issue #6 of the Tailwind Times has a nice drawing detailing the
> construction of the tailwheel steering link. Jerry
> On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 06:07 PM, Dan wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > Thanks.=A0 It looks like one way water could get out better.=A0 I guess
> > one could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain=A0 type
> > ones are.=A0
> >
> > On8/31/20045:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> > > Skip Lovell fromFort BraggCAmakes the T wheel=A0 link. I think you
> are
> > > right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It
> > doesn't
> > > make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
>
>
<image.tiff>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Danny, That was my line of thinking at the time. Man
that article is old. I didn't actually fly with that
installion so I wrote that more than 6 years ago.
Anyway, as I recall it made brake application very
diffucult with full rudder applied so I went back to
the plans installion.
=====
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
304-872-7938 shop
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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Dan, you are probably right. The open side to the rear would keep stuff out better.
I am going to turn mine around. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
Jim,
Thanks. It looks like one way water could get out better. I guess one could
find springs about as strong as the spring and chain type ones are.
On 8/31/2004 5:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> Skip Lovell from Fort Bragg CA makes the T wheel link. I think you are
> right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It doesn't
> make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> ----- Original Message -----
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| Subject: | New Tailwind Pilot |
TailwindForum <TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
Friends, I would like to introduce you all to my
daughter McKenna Elizabeth born Saturday 28 August 04.
She arrived at 11:31 PM, weighed 7 lbs 3 oz and is
19.5 inches long. My wife Jeri is making a speedy
recovery but I plan to be at home for at least a week.
I'm avialable by phone or email.
=====
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
304-872-7938 shop
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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Brian,
Roger that. That's why they call it spurimenten. :-)
-Danny
Congratulations on the new pilot! 6 years from now she will be flying
320WT!!
On 8/31/2004 8:23:52 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Danny, That was my line of thinking at the time. Man
> that article is old. I
> didn't actually fly with that
> installion so I wrote that more than 6 years ago.
> Anyway, as I recall it made brake application very
> diffucult with full rudder applied so I went back to
> the plans installion.
>
>
>
> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
> 304-872-7938 shop
> 304-562-6800 home
>
> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't
> stick out your neck?
>
>
>
> - The Tailwind-List Email Forum -
>
>
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Jim,
The Rocket guys put a big fat o-ring on top of the rod end and under the
bolt head also. I guess it gives some damping and keeps crud out.
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim and Donna
Clement
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
Dan, you are probably right. The open side to the rear would keep stuff out
better. I am going to turn mine around. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan <mailto:dannyjoe@insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
Jim,
Thanks. It looks like one way water could get out better. I guess one
could find springs about as strong as the spring and chain type ones are.
On 8/31/2004 5:39:07 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> Skip Lovell from Fort Bragg CA makes the T wheel link. I think you are
> right in the construction details, I've never had one apart. It doesn't
> make a difference which way is up. Jim C
> ----- Original Message -----
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com
In a message dated 8/31/04 9:52:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dannyjoe@insightbb.com writes:
> The Rocket guys put a big fat o-ring on top of the rod end and under the
> bolt head also. I guess it gives some damping and keeps crud out.
What are the pro and con issues relative to the spring-loaded tailwheel
control link versus a solid (non-sprung) link? I have been using the solid link
and find it far superior in handling to any tailwheel aircraft I have ever flown
that used any form of springs between the rudder and the tailwheel. I have
not experienced any shimmy or other apparent problems. Have I just been lucky?
Jim
N-5566
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" <flamini2@comcast.net>
Jim,
How is the 180 hp TW doing? Speeds? TT?
How about the specs on your TW.
i had the solid link at first and it worked fine but i was a little hard on
it in turning and going over ruts and edges of taxiways and the rod end
broke off 2 times.
Luckily i had a double horn and put springs and chains on and have not had
any problems since, it also will turn at 90 degrees but would be even better
if it
was full swivel.
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mcculleyja@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/31/04 9:52:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dannyjoe@insightbb.com writes:
>
> > The Rocket guys put a big fat o-ring on top of the rod end and under the
> > bolt head also. I guess it gives some damping and keeps crud out.
>
> What are the pro and con issues relative to the spring-loaded tailwheel
> control link versus a solid (non-sprung) link? I have been using the
solid link
> and find it far superior in handling to any tailwheel aircraft I have ever
flown
> that used any form of springs between the rudder and the tailwheel. I
have
> not experienced any shimmy or other apparent problems. Have I just been
lucky?
>
> Jim
> N-5566
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Tailwind Pilot |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "James E. Wagner Jr." <jwagner@accesschicago.net>
You know how to build em!! Wags
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Alley" <n320wt@yahoo.com>
<TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: New Tailwind Pilot
> Friends, I would like to introduce you all to my
> daughter McKenna Elizabeth born Saturday 28 August 04.
> She arrived at 11:31 PM, weighed 7 lbs 3 oz and is
> 19.5 inches long. My wife Jeri is making a speedy
> recovery but I plan to be at home for at least a week.
> I'm avialable by phone or email.
>
> =====
> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
> 304-872-7938 shop
> 304-562-6800 home
>
> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Tubing for a confused builder |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind" <memphistailwind@bellsouth.net>
Hey guys,
It's day two of the TW project, and all ribs have been cut out. Half have
been glued, stapled, and gusseted. All of the ribs will be complete
tomorrow. Now I am waiting for the spars to arrive. It is time to order
tubing. I wanted to know if anyone had a customized list of the tubing
needed to build the TW with the Clement mods. I have heard that the top
longerons need to be changed from the plan thickness. I have heard that
other tubes should be changed in thickness. I have searched the archives for
hours, and have been unable to find clarity. I am also unclear about the
length of the longerons. The plans show one joint and a heated bend, but I
was unable to find a tube as long as the longeron on AC Spruce's material
list. The list on AC Spruce is not very helpful. I do not need all of the
tubes they sell in the kit. Does anyone have any suggestions? I plan on
purchasing a engine mount, and gear.
Thanks
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
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