---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/02/04: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:19 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) 2. 03:06 AM - Re: W8 today (Lovelace) 3. 04:50 AM - Re: W8 today (William Bernard) 4. 05:55 AM - Re: W8 today (dmagaw@att.net) 5. 06:27 AM - Re: W8 today (Estelle Danner) 6. 06:34 AM - Re: W8 today (Rick) 7. 08:51 AM - Re: W8 today (Dan) 8. 08:51 AM - Re: W8 today (Fred Weaver) 9. 09:22 AM - Re: W8 today (Dan) 10. 09:33 AM - Re: tail wheel (Fred Weaver) 11. 12:50 PM - Fw: ride (Jerry Hey) 12. 03:30 PM - Re: tail wheel (Lovelace) 13. 04:02 PM - Re: tail wheel (DaveM) 14. 04:55 PM - Danny's W-8 (Rick) 15. 06:32 PM - FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 (Dan) 16. 07:34 PM - Re: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 (Richard) 17. 08:02 PM - Re: W8 today (Mcculleyja@aol.com) 18. 08:12 PM - Re: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 (Dan) 19. 08:16 PM - Re: W8 today (Dan) 20. 08:24 PM - Re: W8 today (Mcculleyja@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:15 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Tailwind-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Lister, Please read over the Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines below. 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This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.] ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:00 AM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today Looking good. Go for it Dan! ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com ; tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: W8 today Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:38 AM PST US From: "William Bernard" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" Danny, what is the flush inlet on the top of the cowl for? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today Fred if you see this coming duck! Don't get hit by the B.S.B. (bullshit blower) Fact is the previous owner was having trouble with overheating. So the plane was in another town and I couldn't see the cowl with the plane so I just made sure it was going to cool. The snoot could stand to be cut back a little too don't you think? There is a long to-do list on it. One thing at a time. Baby steps, baby steps. -Danny -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mytyweav@earthlink.net Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" What's with that big ole turd kinda scoop on the bottom? :) Original Message: ----------------- From: Dan dannyjoe@insightbb.com Subject: Tailwind-List: W8 today Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny =============================================== =============================================== =============================================== =============================================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:23 AM PST US From: dmagaw@att.net Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today A classic W-8 for sure. What engine is in it? What do you do about radios, intercoms, GPS and transponders and all that fancy stuff one seems to have to have to fly anymore? ; ) Dave -------------- Original message from "Dan" : -------------- Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess shes ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then its Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dans patent applied for parking brake. Yep shes running purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it dont cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny A classic W-8 for sure. What engine is in it? What do you do about radios, intercoms, GPSand transponders and all that fancy stuff one seems to have to have to fly anymore? ; ) Dave -------------- Original message from "Dan" : -------------- Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess shes ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then its Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dans patent applied for parking brake. Yep shes running purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it dont cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:14 AM PST US From: "Estelle Danner" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today looks good! Dan Bob Danner ----- Original Message ----- From: dmagaw@att.net To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today A classic W-8 for sure. What engine is in it? What do you do about radios, intercoms, GPS and transponders and all that fancy stuff one seems to have to have to fly anymore? ; ) Dave -------------- Original message from "Dan" : -------------- Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:47 AM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Rick" HA HA HA HA, I hold my sides, maybe I'd better not laugh, I'm the guy that's gonna fly it today, should I warn onlookers to wear full rain gear? Rick N241SW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dan" > > Fred, > That's not a turd scoop, that's a turd blower. I built it big so it will > move lot of air. When I fly over Baraboo next year, I figure you will > already be there. So that means the Bull Shit will be really deep; I can > fly over and blow enough out of the way to land. > ;) > -Danny > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > mytyweav@earthlink.net > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:29 AM > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" > > > What's with that big ole turd kinda scoop on the bottom? > :) > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Dan dannyjoe@insightbb.com > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:50:53 -0500 > To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com, tailwind-list@matronics.com > Subject: Tailwind-List: W8 today > > > Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the > pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get > some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put > the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking > brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down > some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too > much. > > -Danny > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:41 AM PST US From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dan" Bill, That is a naca type inlet for the oil cooler. The big scoop is pulling on the other end of that too. -Danny -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Bernard Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" Danny, what is the flush inlet on the top of the cowl for? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today Fred if you see this coming duck! Don't get hit by the B.S.B. (bullshit blower) Fact is the previous owner was having trouble with overheating. So the plane was in another town and I couldn't see the cowl with the plane so I just made sure it was going to cool. The snoot could stand to be cut back a little too don't you think? There is a long to-do list on it. One thing at a time. Baby steps, baby steps. -Danny -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mytyweav@earthlink.net Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" What's with that big ole turd kinda scoop on the bottom? :) Original Message: ----------------- From: Dan dannyjoe@insightbb.com Subject: Tailwind-List: W8 today Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ============================================== ============================================== ============================================== ============================================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:41 AM PST US From: "Fred Weaver" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today Yep, it sure has that "Passow" appearance..... I'm glad Rick is checking it out and making sure it's ready for you. You will enjoy it very much. Seems to me, that airplane has an 0-200 for power? Talk about a BSB..... :) Yer gonna luv it..... Have a good time, Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan To: TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com ; tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:50 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: W8 today Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:55 AM PST US From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today Dave, It has O-200 power with Armstrong starter, no electrics, both mags have impulse and it starts very easy with throttle all the way back once the cylinders smell a little fuel. It does have a 9 volt battery for the fuel gauge. You push in the button and hold, the needle swings over to read battery condition then falls back to fuel level; idea being if the battery reads low, so will the fuel. I have two intercoms to choose from, neither of which is installed (passengers not a priority for now). The GPS and the radio are hand held jobs; radio has VOR on it which will probably work if you have the station in sight. GPS came new from Ebay, hunnert bux! The interesting thing about the little Magellan 315 is it has been adopted by a hobbyist that won't let it die much like the commodore 64. This guy has taken the free data CD's published by the Gov. and produces free aviation databases for download. The advice you gave me about a lightweight starter and battery was not wasted, merely down a ways on the to-do list. -Danny -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmagaw@att.net Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today A classic W-8 for sure. What engine is in it? What do you do about radios, intercoms, GPS and transponders and all that fancy stuff one seems to have to have to fly anymore? ; ) Dave -------------- Original message from "Dan" : -------------- Worked on zaro, wun, ate today. Cep for letting air out to make the pressure right on the mains, I guess she's ready. First of next week I get some tail wheel time in the Citabria, then it's Katie bar the door. I put the stick back per plans and you can see Dan's patent applied for parking brake. Yep she's running. purring. That scoop is going to slow it down some, which is fine just so it don't cave the top of the cowling in too much. -Danny ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:34 AM PST US From: "Fred Weaver" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" Jim.... How is it that you think you are getting 27 to 30 miles per gallon? I just figured out some of my best numbers and at 208 mph cruise speed, burning 7.6 gallons per hour, I'm only getting 26... And those are real miles. That is a clean W10 that weighs a lot less, uses a Lycoming 0-360 with fixed pitch flying at 16000 feet running lean as can be.... Now... With a favorable tailwind component, I've seen much bigger numbers but they don't count for this discussion. Malcolm, you have a clean trike running a Lyc 0-320.... What have you seen as your best "real" mpg figure? Dave Magaw, same parameters, same question? I would love to see Magaw's numbers as he has flown the airplane over several thousand miles and at altitudes that would provide good numbers. Our aspect ratio's and efficiency just have to deliver better results.... Jim, are you turning that engine down around 2200 rpm at altitudes of???? And when you are, what is the "true airspeed" that provides you with 27-30 mpg? All that without wheelpants and the flatbottomed W8 Wing? I'm stumped.... Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com Jim said.... Snip, Snip, Snip........ > > Without wheel pants yet, I have seen GPS confirmed true airspeed of 205 mph, > level flight, full power, and 2,500 fpm max ROC, with an average ROC to 10,000 > feet of 2,000 fpm (5 minutes from start of takeoff). My main interest, > however, is in long range economy cruise. It is consistently capable of 27 to 30 > mile per gallon results. With a total fuel quantity of 45 gallons, the non stop > range is 1100 plus miles, with required reserves. Have already done that but > would like to test the range and cockpit stamina with a West to East flight > including a nice 30-to-50 westerly wind component! The larger cabin is very > helpful in the comfort factor. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:10 PM PST US Subject: Tailwind-List: Fwd: ride From: Jerry Hey --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey I received this e-mail today. Is there anyone in the St Louis area who would like to respond? Begin forwarded message: > From: "bpfrank@juno.com" > Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 2:43:09 PM America/Indianapolis > To: j-winddesigns@thegrid.net > Subject: ride > > > I am investigating the tail wind market but need to get a ride in > one before deciding...do you have a listing of tailwind owners in Ill > or Wisc or Michigan, or of course the st louis area??? > > regards, brucefrank/st louis > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get your name as your email address. > Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more > Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:58 PM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" Going to Baraboo this year I flew at 4500 ft. 8.9 gal./hr. or about 20 mpg. I crusie at 2650/2700 RPM @ 185/190 mph, I am still breaking in new cylinders. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Weaver" To: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" > > Jim.... How is it that you think you are getting 27 to 30 miles per gallon? > I just figured out some of my best numbers and at 208 mph cruise speed, > burning 7.6 gallons per hour, I'm only getting 26... And those are real > miles. That is a clean W10 that weighs a lot less, uses a Lycoming 0-360 > with fixed pitch flying at 16000 feet running lean as can be.... Now... > With a favorable tailwind component, I've seen much bigger numbers but they > don't count for this discussion. > Malcolm, you have a clean trike running a Lyc 0-320.... What have you seen > as your best "real" mpg figure? > Dave Magaw, same parameters, same question? I would love to see Magaw's > numbers as he has flown the airplane over several thousand miles and at > altitudes that would provide good numbers. > Our aspect ratio's and efficiency just have to deliver better results.... > Jim, are you turning that engine down around 2200 rpm at altitudes of???? > And when you are, what is the "true airspeed" that provides you with 27-30 > mpg? > All that without wheelpants and the flatbottomed W8 Wing? I'm stumped.... > Weav > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com > > Jim said.... > > Snip, Snip, Snip........ > > > > Without wheel pants yet, I have seen GPS confirmed true airspeed of 205 > mph, > > level flight, full power, and 2,500 fpm max ROC, with an average ROC to > 10,000 > > feet of 2,000 fpm (5 minutes from start of takeoff). My main interest, > > however, is in long range economy cruise. It is consistently capable of > 27 to 30 > > mile per gallon results. With a total fuel quantity of 45 gallons, the > non stop > > range is 1100 plus miles, with required reserves. Have already done that > but > > would like to test the range and cockpit stamina with a West to East > flight > > including a nice 30-to-50 westerly wind component! The larger cabin is > very > > helpful in the comfort factor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:01 PM PST US From: "DaveM" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "DaveM" Well today I went to Oakdale and back to Yolo Co.. Each way I was running at 2600 RPM and at cruise burning 8.0 GPH (per the fuel flow gage which is fairly accurate). My ground speed on the way down averaged about 205 MPH which results in 25.6 MPG, and on the way back 170 MPH resulting in 21.2 MPG. I have gone up to higher altitudes on other trips and got the fuel flow down to 7.5 GPH at an average cruise speed of 185 or 24.6 MPG. BTW, I have now put about 80 hours on N168A this year since March, which I figure I have traveled over 14,000 miles in it. I really like that plane. Dave > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" > > Jim.... How is it that you think you are getting 27 to 30 miles per gallon? > I just figured out some of my best numbers and at 208 mph cruise speed, > burning 7.6 gallons per hour, I'm only getting 26... And those are real > miles. That is a clean W10 that weighs a lot less, uses a Lycoming 0-360 > with fixed pitch flying at 16000 feet running lean as can be.... Now... > With a favorable tailwind component, I've seen much bigger numbers but they > don't count for this discussion. > Malcolm, you have a clean trike running a Lyc 0-320.... What have you seen > as your best "real" mpg figure? > Dave Magaw, same parameters, same question? I would love to see Magaw's > numbers as he has flown the airplane over several thousand miles and at > altitudes that would provide good numbers. > Our aspect ratio's and efficiency just have to deliver better results.... > Jim, are you turning that engine down around 2200 rpm at altitudes of???? > And when you are, what is the "true airspeed" that provides you with 27-30 > mpg? > All that without wheelpants and the flatbottomed W8 Wing? I'm stumped.... > Weav > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:15 PM PST US From: "Rick" "Tailwind Discussion" Subject: Tailwind-List: Danny's W-8 Flew Danny's W-8 today, she did great! Needs a little rigging work, but after all, she's been disassembled and reassembled, and that after a long period of inactivity. This airplane has fly-in stickers on her from when I was 12 or so, and I'm 47. Except for a spring that broke in the pilot's seat under a couple of g's and like to have scared the shit out of me, everything worked real good. The O200 reportedly came out of a Cassut racer, not sure what that means, but she ran strong, and seems to be propped good, running up to about 2750 level full throttle 1500 msl, showing close to 160. Tailwheel is about and inch in diameter (kidding) and demands attention. Great to see all your hard work rewarded, Danny, in getting this classic back in the air. Have fun: Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:51 PM PST US From: "Dan" Subject: Tailwind-List: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 Rick, Thanks are all I can say, but I sure am obliged and hope I can return the favor in some way. Put some hours on that dammed thing. I am putting in an order for a 6 inch wheel as soon as I get off here, and will dig through the aluminum pile for rudder trim tab material. I owe you big time man. -Danny ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:39 PM PST US From: "Richard" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 Dan, I was out at e-town last weekend, tried to get a look at your plane but the young guy at the desk wouldn't let me past him. I guess that's good. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 Rick, Thanks are all I can say, but I sure am obliged and hope I can return the favor in some way. Put some hours on that dammed thing. I am putting in an order for a 6 inch wheel as soon as I get off here, and will dig through the aluminum pile for rudder trim tab material. I owe you big time man. -Danny ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:50 PM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com In a message dated 9/2/04 12:29:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dannyjoe@insightbb.com writes: > This guy has > taken the free data CD's published by the Gov. and produces free aviation > databases for download. Danny, Can you provide info on how to get this free data? I have a Magellan 315 and love it. Jim McCulley ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:56 PM PST US From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: FW: [TailwindForum] Danny's W-8 Rich, That must have been Kenneth; I guess you can't be too careful these days. The real terrorists take their turbans off in the parking lot now though. :-) If you hurry back down you could probably get a ride in it with Rick, it's all right by me, it won't be nothing like a ride in Fred's, but a ride is a ride. -Danny Dan, I was out at e-town last weekend, tried to get a look at your plane but the young guy at the desk wouldn't let me past him. I guess that's good. ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:32 PM PST US From: "Dan" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dan" Jim, You are gonna love this! Here's the link! He won't let anyone send any money. http://home.stny.rr.com/bkw/315/ -Danny Can you provide info on how to get this free data? I have a Magellan 315 and love it. Jim McCulley ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:02 PM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: W8 today --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com In a message dated 9/2/04 11:18:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dannyjoe@insightbb.com writes: > You are gonna love this! Here's the link! He won't let anyone send any > money. > http://home.stny.rr.com/bkw/315/ > > -Danny Many thanks --I'll check it out! Jim